Ok, but my phone is four years old and hasn't slowed down.
So you have a nice conspiracy there, but it still doesn't hold water.
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Apple Being Sued for 'Purposefully Slowing Down Older iPhone Models' [Updated]
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Ok, but my phone is four years old and hasn't slowed down.
So you have a nice conspiracy there, but it still doesn't hold water.
BacK in the day I used to open up my iPhones after two years or so and I'd replace the battery. Eventually it just got too hard to do that and I stopped. But I'd still tell people to try do that if they wanted to use their iPhone longer. Now that seems even more important. Spend $85 and get another year or so out of your old iPhone instead of buying a new one for $800 seems like a solution that a lot of people would like.
If I were Apple, I'd give iPhone complainers a roll of quarters and tell them go find a payphone.
Apple's lawyers are going to have a field day with this one. The word they were looking for is purposely, now all Apple really needs to do is show what the purpose of slowing down older iPhone models was. Which they already have shown, before the case was filed.
I replaced mine with OEM but what’s the proof that 3rd party isn’t as good? Apple has been masking the deterioration of their batteries relative to system needs for some time. If the testing is done directly on the physical properties of the battery that’s one thing, but if the tests rely on iOS reporting the condition of the batteries, I wouldn’t trust the results.
You have any links to tests?
I could use some power management on my iPhone 7. The battery life has sucked since the day I got it.
Actually they won’t, I think you’ll find later next year the EU may investigate this and fine them heavily, because they flat out made people believe they needed new iPhones and failed to tell a sole outside Apple that they were deliberately slowing down their iPhones. I’d that is proven then that is very very very dodgy ground to be on, and the consumer will be protected by the Corporation being heavily fined by government and their consumer rights protection let alone the courts!
It serves Apple right on this one!
You need to remember. Apple themselves slowed all these phones down on purpose, they decided not to tell anyone, they refused to replace any batteries if they passed their own diagnostics tests, they have effectively lied and cheated their customers that can be argued as leading to bigger profits and share price.
I think you'll find this lawsuit is under the jurisdiction of the US courts. I can't see these guys getting a penny. You may have missed the word i bolded and italicised to draw attention to.
The prospect of EU fines is a different matter.
yea they should have just let your phone restart on their own so you would have something different to complain about
Battery aging is a really serious problem that none of us knew we had and have to say that I feel very lucky that Apple anticipated my emerging problem. Within at little as 30 minutes of starting the upgrade of my iPhone my battery had aged, or rather my iPhone had slowed right down to stretch out the energy from the weakening battery. I didn't know it was a problem until it happened, just then. Only Apple could have ensured it was there when I needed their help most with the appropriate fix for my iPhone 6 that hadn't given any indication whatsoever of a shortened battery life until that point.
Now, with this battery fix, I only have to wait about seven seconds for even the smallest of applications to fire up - it's almost as if a timer was counting down inside the software, but that's a crazy idea, it can't be happening.
If Apples next battery fix slows my iPhone down anymore I will have time to go and get a coffee while the App activates. How about that! Apple even anticipated my opportunity to multitask. Maybe while I'm out getting a coffee they figured I might go and buy a new iPhone.
Now, with this battery fix, I only have to wait about seven seconds for even the smallest of applications to fire up - it's almost as if a timer was counting down inside the software, but that's a crazy idea, it can't be happening.
If Apples next battery fix slows my iPhone down anymore I will have time to go and get a coffee while the App activates. How about that! Apple even anticipated my opportunity to multitask. Maybe while I'm out getting a coffee they figured I might go and buy a new iPhone.
That 'something' should be a recall naturally, rather than a software change to the ECM that limits the RPM to 3,000 without the driver's knowledge.
If it were a larger number of iPhone's, yes. Sounds like this is an issue with a limited number of bad batteries. I agree, in the end, it's a little messed up. I just don't find it to be that big of a deal. Still not sure how they would win either.
I've replaced friends iPhone 5,5S, and 6s using the cells from iFixit with good success. If you can keep a workhorse running for $25, it seems like a no-brainer to me.
errmm so you actually agree devices are being hindered, that is being put into a less than optimal state to preserve battery state on older devices which guess what may never have been put under the stress that Apple deems they have. I could have bought an iPhone 6, hardly used it then bamn iOS 12 hits and it just thinks my battery is going to be bad?
And I wasn’t referring to the case in this story, but several states are now preparing class action law suites against Apple, and that’s just the states, as I said this could be breaching EU consumer laws and they will tear into Apple no problem.
This case who knows? It will be interesting to see what the courts decide on it.
Tempest in a teapot. Can’t wait to see the expressions on those who thinks apple deserves it as these suits gets tossed.
But you lose the water and dust protection right? Is it the same if Apple replace your battery?
Otherwise I agree, keep your phone and replace the battery.
I think you need to breathe and re-read my response.
Again, you're talking to a guy with a four year old iPhone 6 that runs fantastic and scores above average on GB4.
Apple is not slowing down phones for the purpose to getting people to upgrade. If this were the case, I would be affected as well. Apple is slowing down phones which have degraded batteries in-order to preserve some functionality until the user replaces the battery.
Personally, I don't see it as a big deal. I'd rather this than my phone shutting down.
Unethical?
Of course it's unethical, Apple didn't ask nor agree to consent from their customers to slow their iPhones down. To Leave the battery naturally degrading, and crash, forcing a customer to get a new battery for $8-$80, or a new phone if they choose. Vs intentionally disrupting the iPhone so even if a customer purchased a new battery, their phone still performs poorly...forcing the buyers to only buy a new iPhone.
Yes it is unethical. Apple has no right to compromise the phone's integrity after purchase, especially without consent.
Well they only started doing this for the iPhone 6 and up. Hence you won't have the throttling issue. So yes it does hold water.
I don't think it's worthy of the outrage and crap in this thread, but, and this is coming from a massive Apple fan, I'm against Apple on this one.
What this boils down to is Apple failed to ensure that their batteries, once degraded, still supply enough voltage to actually power on the device. A device shouldn't throttle with a degraded battery - it should just last less time - that's what people expect, and what pretty much every other device does.
The "well would you rather have your phone shut down unexpectedly" argument doesn't work with me - this is a botched fix to an issue that shouldn't have existed in the first place. Ultimately, it's a software fix for a hardware issue, which isn't acceptable in my books.
Is it class-action worthy? Probably not. But I think Apple should at least offer to replace batteries which are unable to supply enough voltage to power the phone on until it shuts down gracefully with ones that can.
Ultimately, if Apple had gotten their battery calculations right, this wouldn't be an issue. The consumer shouldn't have to suffer because of their mess up.
What this boils down to is Apple failed to ensure that their batteries, once degraded, still supply enough voltage to actually power on the device. A device shouldn't throttle with a degraded battery - it should just last less time - that's what people expect, and what pretty much every other device does.
The "well would you rather have your phone shut down unexpectedly" argument doesn't work with me - this is a botched fix to an issue that shouldn't have existed in the first place. Ultimately, it's a software fix for a hardware issue, which isn't acceptable in my books.
Is it class-action worthy? Probably not. But I think Apple should at least offer to replace batteries which are unable to supply enough voltage to power the phone on until it shuts down gracefully with ones that can.
Ultimately, if Apple had gotten their battery calculations right, this wouldn't be an issue. The consumer shouldn't have to suffer because of their mess up.