I think this may be the case with the 6s and newer. However, I believe you might be able to buy a replacement seal for when you do the job.
The 6 didn't have any fancy seal. :shrug:
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Apple Being Sued for 'Purposefully Slowing Down Older iPhone Models' [Updated]
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I think this may be the case with the 6s and newer. However, I believe you might be able to buy a replacement seal for when you do the job.
The 6 didn't have any fancy seal. :shrug:
My old IP6 with original battery has never shut down automatically. It would be nothing easier than count e.g. number of unexpected shutdowns and start throttling performance e.g. after 5 of them. What they did is so bad, but honestly I'm not surprised, today's Apple is nothing it used to be. They don't care about you as a user at all, they just care about harvesting $, that's their only priority. "Where they failed is being transparent" - lol, isn't that enough for such a HUGE company??
I have a 6.
So i guess it's only a little older than 3 years. It feels like I've had it for so much longer for some reason. I'm honestly looking for reasons to upgrade. I just don't need to :|
I find this to be quite upsetting. I will not be updating to next year’s iOS. The more that I think about it, this is the kind of thing that could send me to the dark side (Android). Apple should do the right thing and replace all of the faulty batteries.
I'd love to get more facts/hard numbers on this.
How much do the devices slow down? Is the slow-down noticeable (e.g. after updating to iOS 11 mine is noticeably more sluggish, do you get the same degree of slow-down with the battery throttling?). How much does this throttling extend the battery life?
Do other companies do the same performance throttling? Do they announce it?
How much do the devices slow down? Is the slow-down noticeable (e.g. after updating to iOS 11 mine is noticeably more sluggish, do you get the same degree of slow-down with the battery throttling?). How much does this throttling extend the battery life?
Do other companies do the same performance throttling? Do they announce it?
Well OK let me play Devil's advocate here; what gets people to upgrade:
1 A slow iOS because the battery is deemed slow so therefore Apple slows it down
2 No reason to slow anything down but your battery will run down faster but if you're OK with that it runs the new iOS as fast as the latest iPhones
Which does Apple prefer? (spoiler, it's No 1)
Good. Trust is earned, is easily lost, and it needs to be constantly fanned. Tim Cook’s Apple has grown so tonedeaf and arrogant in the past few years, maybe a good PR kick in the shin will get them back on track. Things are notch looking good.
yeah same. my ipad mini is trash since i updated to ios 11. i was on 9 the whole time cause it was working so good and then with ios 11 and the big ipad update i thought i should give it a try. stupid idea.
I understand why Apple did it, but as a consumer you should be given the option to replace a part like a battery and in this case no option is given. Your device just slows down. You also can't replace the battery yourself. It's a double down bad move from Apple. I don't know why people defend it.
You guys are upset that a corporation will do whatever it takes to sell more product? And make more money? I know that some of you will be surprised on this forum by this. But Apple is just like any other corporation. Your affection or obsession for them is nice. But in the end. They are there to push product out the door. Not there to make sure you hold on to your 8 year old phone.
If only this deception had been uncovered sooner...I like knowing that, as a consumer, I am a pawn in a corporate scheme...helps me play along better.
First there was Watergate then there was DIESELGATE...now there's THROTTLEGATE.
Yeah Baby!
First there was Watergate then there was DIESELGATE...now there's THROTTLEGATE.
Yeah Baby!
Absolutely. I decided last year I was going to buy an X (or upgrade this year to whatever came out), and at that point I told my parents they could have my 6 if they wanted it.
"It just means that the Apple Watch battery is designed to be charged at a lower voltage, which is enough to power the watch but likely insufficient to run an iPhone properly."
Charge *to* a lower termination voltage (LiIon charges at constant current, then constant voltage until charge termination). Voltage and the ability to power a circuit are two different things. Charging LiIon to a lower voltage increases the cycle life-span for a small (10%) reduction in capacity. Apple could, say, set the charge limit to 4050mV and have (for example) a 1000 cycle iPhone battery.
The engineering choice that Apple makes it to deliver their equipment with smaller, lower capacity LiIon batteries (== cheaper / thinner) and charge to a higher nominal level at a certain cost to battery lifetime
No, you want it to be No 1 because you like complaining about things. If you can make somebody else bad, you're subconsciously telling your ego that you are better than them.
Again, my phone (iP6) is more than 3 years old and scores higher than it should on GB4. It runs iOS11.2 without any problems. None of this fits your conspiracy.
So you think that Apple should somehow ensure that the battery lasts longer than possible? Or would you rather the phone just be dead once the phone reaches a point where the battery can no longer supply the proper power? I guess I am just trying to think of what options they honestly had. The only one I can think of is letting people know of the issue and offering to replace the battery for a fee. I don't think they should just be replacing batteries for free.
This.
The option they had was to engineer the phone, battery and OS to a better standard. As it is, they're miscalculated one or more things and the power management "fix" is disingenuous at best.
In other words, somebody made an executive decision about where to draw the line, and they got it wrong.
This is from a user
"For those of you defending Apple, here's my situation, I have an almost two year old iPhone 6S that often throttles down to:
1.8Ghz (base clock) @ 100% plugged in
1.5Ghz @ <90% battery life
1.2Ghz @ <80% battery life
911Mhz (Low Power mode clock) @ <50% battery life
~400Mhz @ <10-20% battery life.
FYI, the Geekbench scores reflect the decreased level of performance.
My battery according to Apple is at around 81% (coconut battery often reports 64-82%, so it may actually be worse) health (and thus just above the threshold for repair). While I have AppleCare Plus through early January and especially with the latest revelations believe I should (at the least) be able to get the battery replaced, this level of throttling for a battery that is supposedly not failing is totally unacceptable. If the CPU's voltage tolerance (for shutdown) is actually this tight, I'd consider that a design flaw. If it's not and Apple's throttling regime is just overly aggressive, that's just not ok. Phone CPU's are designed to burst (race to sleep), and if they can't burst that's going to erase any supposed "savings" of running at a lower clock speed"
iOS should tell you if you've moved below the top average performance threshold, and if so you should be able to pay (or not) for a battery replacement from AppleCare. Problem is AppleCare has a higher threshold for replacement than OS does for smoothing
Thanks for the clarification. I have started reading up on lithium batteries because of this but it’s not the easiest thing to understand.
What iOS version? Post up a screenshot with your geekbench so we can add that to the discussion. Would be good to see evidence from those not having issues.
Good! I can't believe they got away with this BS. Hell, at least give me an option...don't purposely slow down my device without my knowledge. I think people would respond better if we were fully aware this was happening over the years.
Your analogy is flawed. If you would say that after 100K miles, you took your car to the dealership for ECU re-flash, and now the ECU reduces the acceleration and power of the motor, in an attempt to prevent a potential stalling problem that the manufacture has issued a TSB for.
I question whether or not the batteries in the iPhones that are having issues are faulty. I remember my 6s Plus having the random shutdown issue, and Apple replaced it. According to the Apple support rep, they were getting some reports about this issue, and they thought it may have been a bad lot of batteries.
Good post.
The lengths that people go to defend some of Apple's more questionable actions is crazy.
Yea, because Apple always has their products' users in mind for decisions like this.
Every manufacturer does this. Nike, Apple, Samsung, Nissan. Every product has a short shelf life these days.