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Apple Being Sued for 'Purposefully Slowing Down Older iPhone Models' [Updated]
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I feel there is a big distinction between a phone dying earlier %age than expected and being dead before it's recharged vs "randomly shutting down" often and requiring constant reboots for basic phone use.
I hope this will lead to Apple allowing people to downgrade to a previous version of IOS.....
Who cares?
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That isn't the problem.
Honestly this is good argument ammo for android fans, this non transparent throttle.
But Its a good thing I don't treat mobile Os like religion (tho I much prefer iOS , by a long shot)
Nope. Some other vendors put in a slower CPU to start with. Call it a pre-slowing down at initial purchase.
Not entirely accurate, let's say you reach 100,000 miles on your car and the transmission goes out, you would take it to a mechanic that would either rebuild or replace the transmission. But now let's say the car manufacturer made it where you could only take it to them for the repair. They examine the transmission and then say they won't replace it, even if you pay for it and that you should buy a whole new car instead. This is what Apple is doing by refusing to replace batteries in phones, even at the user's expense.
Defrauding? Batteries degrade over time, and old items of all types show wear and tear in many ways. Next shall we sue Nike because the soles of my shoes wore down with usage and time?
Yes, because android smartphones are the epitome of stability and smoothness. And it’s not like they don’t have their share of shutdowns and reboots.
Today’s iPhones are also packed with way more tech compared to the iPhones of old, and so there are more processes to manage in the background.
It’s likely to do with the 64-bit processors and the new race to sleep / wake functions that result in sudden spikes of power draw. The batteries today are larger than those found in older iPhones; thickness has nothing to do with the problem.
Exactly, if this were an issue, we would see the issue in cameras, android phones, electric vehicles and well any other device that use a lithium ion battery that also has a high performance level.
Oh please. Speculation at its finest just to defend Apple. If Samsung did this you would be shouting how dare they.
Just because a company is large doesn’t mean the basic laws of physics, time, and decay stop just because some people want to believe things should last forever. This isn’t wonka, and your phone isn’t an everlasting gobstopper.
If Apple loses, the lawyers will get more money from Apple than the customers will. This is total B.S. Apple explained why they are doing this, and I think it was a good explanation. These same customers would be whining if their iPhones shut off during peak processor usage, and they would accuse Apple of plotting to get them to buy a new iPhone. I hope Apple wins this.
Thickness has everything to do with the size of the battery. Thicker battery obviously would do better but the problem may not be limited to this. It looks like a design flaw.
the difference is, you're buying those CPU's at their max potential, even if that max potential is slower than the Axx max potential
and in 2 years, that other CPU, while slower initially, still runs at the same speed it was purchased at.
Nobody buys a Snapdragon 620 expecting it to be the fastest CPU on the market. So in 2 years time, when it's still running at the same speed it was running on day 1. there's really no problem
But when you're buying a $1000 iphone with the latest, greatest CPU, you expect that within 2 years, that CPU is still going to perform to it's max potential. Not 50% of it.
Well... I'd rather have a phone that still works rather than say 20% and die. I don't know. Computers already throttle and some computers are set to save energy causing users not to be able to utilize the full CPU power. Though in that example, they can change it. I actually don't mind, personally. Though my phone is new so I haven't seen any issues yet.
read the whole issue here, it is not about batteries degrading over time. I think everyone knows that.
Well Nike doesnt come to my house and paint my white shoes black after a year without my consent just because they MIGHT show wear on a white surface after a while
I just want to make sure I understand this correctly, because I'm not a battery expert:
1. When a battery gets older, it not only loses the amount of capacity it can hold but it loses the voltage in which it can operate?
2. When a CPU gets an improper voltage it can cause the device to shut down?
It doesn't seem right that the answer is in throttling the CPU but rather designing a CPU that can use a variable voltage, this way the phone would work as fast as it could while depleting the battery as fast as it needed. I'm not sure how Mac Books or other battery powered devices work but Apple's solution doesn't seem to be the normal approach from similar (battery powered things with CPUs) devices, even from their other product lines.
To me that would logically put the blame on the battery, which makes sense to me, I'm not sure what kind of a barometer I am but I'd hope it would make sense to others as well.
1. When a battery gets older, it not only loses the amount of capacity it can hold but it loses the voltage in which it can operate?
2. When a CPU gets an improper voltage it can cause the device to shut down?
It doesn't seem right that the answer is in throttling the CPU but rather designing a CPU that can use a variable voltage, this way the phone would work as fast as it could while depleting the battery as fast as it needed. I'm not sure how Mac Books or other battery powered devices work but Apple's solution doesn't seem to be the normal approach from similar (battery powered things with CPUs) devices, even from their other product lines.
To me that would logically put the blame on the battery, which makes sense to me, I'm not sure what kind of a barometer I am but I'd hope it would make sense to others as well.
Nobody is expection the phone to last forever, but slowing down a phone that is just a year old is a little early isn’t it?
What some of you do not get is that if your phone is shutting off randomly then the battery isn’t up to scratch. When Apple then tells you it’s fine and there is nothing wrong with the battery and won’t replace it for you while also slowing down your device because it knows the battery has degraded is shady. This has happened to me with my 5s.
I’m not siding with Apple on this one at all.
I’m not siding with Apple on this one at all.