Abazigal
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And claiming that Apple is doing this to force obsolescence, despite Apple having clarified the matter, isn’t speculation?
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Apple Being Sued for 'Purposefully Slowing Down Older iPhone Models' [Updated]
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And claiming that Apple is doing this to force obsolescence, despite Apple having clarified the matter, isn’t speculation?
dannyyankou
macrumors P6
Apple never disclosed their intentions with slowing down iPhones. I don’t think they’ll replace everyone’s phone, but a class action lawsuit is definitely fair.
Wildkraut
Suspended
Please stop with these bad analogies, the tire one in the other thread wasn’t good either.
LordVic
Cancelled
Throttling is a decent work around and short term solution to prevent the phones from randomly turning off (which is far worse to have a device that doesn't work at all).
The problem most people have is Apple hasn't been upfront with it and hid this throttling in a software update and didn't tell anyone they were doing it. All while denying there was any problem at all.
THe correct solution would be to inform users when their phones are being throttled due to the issue, and offer a repair program so that they can get a new battery installed restoring the phone to original performance.
I think the biggest issue the the lack of transparency from Apple and how they tried to hide that there was a problem
Why is it odd? Which is the best selling iPhone model ever? IF I was to target one particular why not the best selling iphone ever (unit sold)
fairuz
macrumors 68020
Hope they win. I'm guessing this crap is why my iPhone 6 is so slow now. So much for "it'll still work even when it's outdated."
Because it is not clarification. I don’t know why that is so difficult for some of you to grasp. It’s a statement that does NOT hold up to scrutiny. We have several posters with degraded batteries but Apple tells them it’s fine because it has not crossed the 80% threshold for replacement. If it’s fine why throttle and not tell the user? Don’t be a shill.
Ha! When did Apple let you know your phone was being throttled? Would you have known without reading MacRumors? Just imagine how many millions of people have no idea why their phone is slowing down. If Apple was doing a good deed, then why didn’t they mention it at any keynote? I haven’t seen an ad about a new awesome battery saving feature on older phones. This is horrible practice and I hope they’re held accountable.
daniesy
macrumors 6502
I can't understand why do macrumors and others, like 9to5mac, keep defending Apple on this one. We're talking about a software feature designed to purposely slow down your device and deplete the battery faster. We've all seen it, we all know it's happening, we all know why it's happening, but yet, macrumors is on Apple's side.
So Apple is doing this to prevent "unexpected shutdowns". What are these and how come i never experienced these shutdowns on any Android phone? My iPhone 7 Plus is less than one year old and technically is already on the black list. And if it's not throttled, it will be, because after iOS 11 i have to charge it twice a day. What about those poor people who bought iPhone 6 and 5SE on Blackfriday? They can already throw them away.
So Apple is doing this to prevent "unexpected shutdowns". What are these and how come i never experienced these shutdowns on any Android phone? My iPhone 7 Plus is less than one year old and technically is already on the black list. And if it's not throttled, it will be, because after iOS 11 i have to charge it twice a day. What about those poor people who bought iPhone 6 and 5SE on Blackfriday? They can already throw them away.
Mal_800
macrumors newbie
But they could make battery replacement easier. Nearly everyone uses a case nowadays, so having a removable rear panel is not an issue.
thefredelement
macrumors 65816
Do worn down soles stop you from using them the same way you did when you bought them?
I think this is the missing piece, perhaps the batteries were just inferior and this is the workaround to avoid a recall(it probably doesn't hurt that they're hoping people just upgrade anyway). This may be one of those things where any 6/6s/7 owner gets $0.25 in the mail in 15 years.
Abazigal
Contributor
I agree it wasn’t the best of analogies, but the point still stands. You can’t fight physics, and batteries can and will wear out over time.
kildraik
macrumors 6502a
They can’t ask those questions, because macrumors writers, no matter their opinions, are not journalists. They’re simpy information regurgitationists that count on ad revenues. Think of them as a homeless person giving away “news tabloids,” and asking for money, but in website form.
This may be the one where Apple loses financially in LOST future sales. These lawsuits will drag on but the bad press will hurt Apple more.
Apple_Robert
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thefredelement
macrumors 65816
You know I think people understand that, I think they'd rather a battery deplete faster while having the phone operate at it's original speed. This makes it a one to one relationship for the issue and solution. Bad battery then replace battery and the phone's performance remains unchanged, it would just last longer on a charge.
If it’s a bad analogy then no point was made. No one is saying batteries will not wear out over time.
Apple & apologists will provide their questionable excuses, but the bottom line is, what they were doing was unethical and sneaky. They deserve to be sued. Is is just wrong in anyone's book (except Tim's).
And Apple's excuse doesn't hold water anyway. An older phone with a degraded battery will still be throttled if it is plugged into the charger. Explain that one.
And Apple's excuse doesn't hold water anyway. An older phone with a degraded battery will still be throttled if it is plugged into the charger. Explain that one.
Abazigal
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itsmilo
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Lol i never thought of it this way but thats a good analogy. Most stuff you read online has not actually been brought to light by whomever wrote the article. Copy paste and a little rewrite to throw some keywords for google in there. Kinda sad isnt it
Actually, it's a perfect analogy. My far more expensive ultra-light-weight running/racing shoes wear out much faster than my cheaper heavy clunky cross training shoes. When they wear out that compromises their fit, cushioning and traction. And yet, the "defective" light-weight shoes are still quite popular among runners. Even if they have to be replaced more often.
That's a similar reason to why NONE of the top mobile phone vendors currently sell a model with a battery than lasts an entire week, like Nokia did a decade or so ago.
DesertNomad
macrumors 6502a
The last time Apple was threatened with a suit about the underlying shutoff issue on the 6s they finally admitted the problem and offered a free battery replacement. Seems like these suits get a lot further than "nowhere".