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Well... I'd rather have a phone that still works rather than say 20% and die. I don't know. Computers already throttle and some computers are set to save energy causing users not to be able to utilize the full CPU power. Though in that example, they can change it. I actually don't mind, personally. Though my phone is new so I haven't seen any issues yet.

Throttling is a decent work around and short term solution to prevent the phones from randomly turning off (which is far worse to have a device that doesn't work at all).

The problem most people have is Apple hasn't been upfront with it and hid this throttling in a software update and didn't tell anyone they were doing it. All while denying there was any problem at all.

THe correct solution would be to inform users when their phones are being throttled due to the issue, and offer a repair program so that they can get a new battery installed restoring the phone to original performance.

I think the biggest issue the the lack of transparency from Apple and how they tried to hide that there was a problem
 
Hm. It’s a bit odd how my 5s, which is at 83% battery capacity, has never had a single shutdown, but the 6 and 6s have.

I also have a Touch 5 and 4s that have crappy batteries, but they never randomly shut down.

So something must be wrong with the 6 series that Apple isn’t admitting. Pushing this CPU throttling “feature” unannounced was very sneaky of them imo.
Why is it odd? Which is the best selling iPhone model ever? IF I was to target one particular why not the best selling iphone ever (unit sold)
 
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And claiming that Apple is doing this to force obsolescence, despite Apple having clarified the matter, isn’t speculation?

Because it is not clarification. I don’t know why that is so difficult for some of you to grasp. It’s a statement that does NOT hold up to scrutiny. We have several posters with degraded batteries but Apple tells them it’s fine because it has not crossed the 80% threshold for replacement. If it’s fine why throttle and not tell the user? Don’t be a shill.
 
Users: “why you slow our phones down?!”

Apple: “your battery can’t hold the charge necessary for some tasks. We want you to use your phone for longer.”

Users: “can you believe Apple just wants us to buy more phones?! Let’s sue!!”
Ha! When did Apple let you know your phone was being throttled? Would you have known without reading MacRumors? Just imagine how many millions of people have no idea why their phone is slowing down. If Apple was doing a good deed, then why didn’t they mention it at any keynote? I haven’t seen an ad about a new awesome battery saving feature on older phones. This is horrible practice and I hope they’re held accountable.
 
I can't understand why do macrumors and others, like 9to5mac, keep defending Apple on this one. We're talking about a software feature designed to purposely slow down your device and deplete the battery faster. We've all seen it, we all know it's happening, we all know why it's happening, but yet, macrumors is on Apple's side.

So Apple is doing this to prevent "unexpected shutdowns". What are these and how come i never experienced these shutdowns on any Android phone? My iPhone 7 Plus is less than one year old and technically is already on the black list. And if it's not throttled, it will be, because after iOS 11 i have to charge it twice a day. What about those poor people who bought iPhone 6 and 5SE on Blackfriday? They can already throw them away.
 
Hate to urinate in your chips, but battery technology is consistent between all manufacturers and it sucks.
But they could make battery replacement easier. Nearly everyone uses a case nowadays, so having a removable rear panel is not an issue.
 
Defrauding? Batteries degrade over time, and old items of all types show wear and tear in many ways. Next shall we sue Nike because the soles of my shoes wore down with usage and time?

Do worn down soles stop you from using them the same way you did when you bought them?

What some of you do not get is that if your phone is shutting off randomly then the battery isn’t up to scratch. When Apple then tells you it’s fine and there is nothing wrong with the battery and won’t replace it for you while also slowing down your device because it knows the battery has degraded is shady. This has happened to me with my 5s.

I’m not siding with Apple on this one at all.

I think this is the missing piece, perhaps the batteries were just inferior and this is the workaround to avoid a recall(it probably doesn't hurt that they're hoping people just upgrade anyway). This may be one of those things where any 6/6s/7 owner gets $0.25 in the mail in 15 years.
 
I think MR could be a little more critical and ask questions like:
- why are only phones 6 and up affected?
- why is the iPhone 7 already affected even thought it is just a little more than a year old?
They can’t ask those questions, because macrumors writers, no matter their opinions, are not journalists. They’re simpy information regurgitationists that count on ad revenues. Think of them as a homeless person giving away “news tabloids,” and asking for money, but in website form.
 
Does worn down soles stop you from using them the same way you did when you bought them?



I think this is the missing piece, perhaps the batteries were just inferior and this is the workaround to avoid a recall(it probably doesn't hurt that they're hoping people just upgrade anyway). This may be one of those things where any 6/6s/7 owner gets $0.25 in the mail in 15 years.

This may be the one where Apple loses financially in LOST future sales. These lawsuits will drag on but the bad press will hurt Apple more.
 
I can't understand why do macrumors and others, like 9to5mac, keep defending Apple on this one. We're talking about a software feature designed to purposely slow down your device and deplete the battery faster. We've all seen it, we all know it's happening, we all know why it's happening, but yet, macrumors is on Apple's side.

So Apple is doing this to prevent "unexpected shutdowns". What are these and how come i never experienced these shutdowns on any Android phone? My iPhone 7 Plus is less than one year old and technically is already on the black list. And if it's not throttled, it will be, because after iOS 11 i have to charge it twice a day. What about those poor people who bought iPhone 6 and 5SE on Blackfriday? They can already throw them away.
MR hasn't been defending Apple.
 
I agree it wasn’t the best of analogies, but the point still stands. You can’t fight physics, and batteries can and will wear out over time.

You know I think people understand that, I think they'd rather a battery deplete faster while having the phone operate at it's original speed. This makes it a one to one relationship for the issue and solution. Bad battery then replace battery and the phone's performance remains unchanged, it would just last longer on a charge.
 
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Apple & apologists will provide their questionable excuses, but the bottom line is, what they were doing was unethical and sneaky. They deserve to be sued. Is is just wrong in anyone's book (except Tim's).

And Apple's excuse doesn't hold water anyway. An older phone with a degraded battery will still be throttled if it is plugged into the charger. Explain that one.
 
They can’t ask those questions, because macrumors writers, no matter their opinions, are not journalists. They’re simpy information regurgitationists that count on ad revenues. Think of them as a homeless person giving away “news tabloids,” and asking for money, but in website form.

Lol i never thought of it this way but thats a good analogy. Most stuff you read online has not actually been brought to light by whomever wrote the article. Copy paste and a little rewrite to throw some keywords for google in there. Kinda sad isnt it
 
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This is no more a defect than the soles of your running shoes wearing out with age is a defect.
From what I understand other smartphone makers don't throttle CPU but Apple does because their thin design compromised battery quality. If that's the case then your analogy would be wrong.?

Actually, it's a perfect analogy. My far more expensive ultra-light-weight running/racing shoes wear out much faster than my cheaper heavy clunky cross training shoes. When they wear out that compromises their fit, cushioning and traction. And yet, the "defective" light-weight shoes are still quite popular among runners. Even if they have to be replaced more often.

That's a similar reason to why NONE of the top mobile phone vendors currently sell a model with a battery than lasts an entire week, like Nokia did a decade or so ago.
 
I have an iPhone 7. I sure hope Apple slows my phone down before an old battery kills it completely. Americans are just way too sue-happy.
 
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