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Macmall's ********

macmall sucks.

Once wanted to get 4 SSDs for a research grant. Macmall was the only retailers listing it as in stock. Called to verify. They had to call me back. They called me 4 times in hour, during which I was in a meeting and couldn't answer. Each time they basically threatened me that the price would go up. Crap. Its embarrassing that both appleinsider and macrumors use them.
 
For the people that says Apple doesn't need sale, what about Walmart or Best Buy? They seem to be doing pretty well too (at least compare to most others out there). That doesn't mean they have to be so nit-picky with their sale.

Even a student discount or weekly Best Buy sale could beat Apple's annual sale of their own products.

Clueless.........
 
Big thanks for the advice.

No, I don't really do those things. I use Photoshop now and again. Does that quality as 'photo editing'?

So, do you think the duo would be fast even with lots of programs open?

I'm using a 1.9 GHz PowerPC G5 (memory 512mb) and I do want to see a big difference in performance on my new computer.

Well youĺl see a big difference either way. :rolleyes: BTW, Snow Leoaprd boots SO SLOW.

Well look at it this way, if I can run Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Safari and Xcode on my G4 and the only lag is in the dock animations I think the C2D will suffice nicely.
 
so does anyone know if the monster beat headphones are on sale as well?
they were on the leaked ad
 
The "discounts" on the high end products are quite a lot less than what most retail stores offer if you pay cash.

I'm happy to pay cash. Anyone know if this is the case in UK? And specifically, John Lewis.

I'd quite like to buy it from John Lewis for cash, if it will save me money.

Well youĺl see a big difference either way. :rolleyes: BTW, Snow Leoaprd boots SO SLOW.

Well look at it this way, if I can run Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Safari and Xcode on my G4 and the only lag is in the dock animations I think the C2D will suffice nicely.

Thanks!
 
That was the original reason for it. However, that purpose for it hasn't been the primary reason for decades. Before the first "Black Fridays", the weekend after Thanksgiving was always viewed as the "kick off" period for holiday sales shopping leading in to Christmas. Up until not too long ago, the "Black Friday" weekend was the heaviest shopped/greatest revenue earning weekend retail-wise of the entire year (for at least the last decade, that weekend is now the weekend directly before Christmas).

However, it's essentially become a retail tradition, and so stores continue to do it in order to help boost their holiday sales period earnings. Sure, they still view it as a great way to bring in revenue, but isn't that what Apple is all about? Revenue? ;) That was rhetorical question I asked about Apple being in the RED. Some of you take stuff too seriously here. It's just a forum.

Something tells me the likes of Best Buy, Target, Costco, etc. aren't "in the red", and yet they always put out amongst the "best" Black Friday ads of any company.



No one here said that Apple was in the red. However, see above: plenty of companies "not in the red" offer great deals.

Something tells you???? Oh yeah that's fact. :rolleyes: Show me Target and Best Buys sales revenue sheets. These companies wouldn't be putting out aggressive ads if there doing so well in revenue.
Decades???? The "Black Friday" name hasn't been going on very long.
 
Something tells you???? Oh yeah that's fact. :rolleyes: Show me Target and Best Buys sales revenue sheets. These companies wouldn't be putting out aggressive ads if there doing so well in revenue.
I've noticed these deals for at least a decade. The aggressive deals for Black Friday aren't anything new. It's just tradition now regardless of the economic climate.

Decades???? The "Black Friday" name hasn't been going on very long.
Here's some casual research. Most of the other sources that I found point to some time in the 1960 - 1970s from varying locations.
 
Decades???? The "Black Friday" name hasn't been going on very long.

pwned...

The Friday following Thanksgiving Day was first nicknamed “Black Friday” in 1966 by the Philadelphia Police Department due to traffic and downtown mobs in shopping centers.

http://random.ology.com/black-friday-death-walmart/
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Origin of the name "Black Friday"

Black Friday as a term has been used in multiple contexts, going back to the nineteenth century, where it was associated with a financial crisis in 1869. The earliest uses of "Black Friday" to mean the day after Thanksgiving come from or reference Philadelphia and refer to the heavy traffic on that day.

The earliest known reference to "Black Friday" (in this sense), found by Bonnie Taylor-Blake of the American Dialect Society, refers to Black Friday 1965 and makes the Philadelphia origin explicit:

JANUARY 1966 -- "Black Friday" is the name which the Philadelphia Police Department has given to the Friday following Thanksgiving Day. It is not a term of endearment to them. "Black Friday" officially opens the Christmas shopping season in center city, and it usually brings massive traffic jams and over-crowded sidewalks as the downtown stores are mobbed from opening to closing.

http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0804D&L=ADS-L&P=R5955&I=-3

The term Black Friday began to get wider exposure around 1975, as shown by two newspaper articles from November 29, 1975, both datelined Philadelphia. The first reference is in an article entitled "Army vs. Navy: A Dimming Splendor," in The New York Times:

Philadelphia police and bus drivers call it "Black Friday" - that day each year between Thanksgiving Day and the Army–Navy Game. It is the busiest shopping and traffic day of the year in the Bicentennial City as the Christmas list is checked off and the Eastern college football season nears conclusion.

The derivation is also clear in an Associated Press article entitled "Folks on Buying Spree Despite Down Economy," which ran in the Titusville Herald on the same day:

Store aisles were jammed. Escalators were nonstop people. It was the first day of the Christmas shopping season and despite the economy, folks here went on a buying spree. ... "That's why the bus drivers and cab drivers call today 'Black Friday,'" a sales manager at Gimbels said as she watched a traffic cop trying to control a crowd of jaywalkers. "They think in terms of headaches it gives them."

Usage of the term has become more popular in the Midwest since 2000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(shopping)#Origin_of_the_name_.22Black_Friday.22
 
Let's say Apple allowed its retailers to offer the Mac mini for, oh, $400, the entry-model iMac for, say, $700-800 and the MacBook for about the same. I honestly think you would see sales go up very, very high.

The people who are going to buy the $300-400 PCs, won't likely ever consider any of the iMacs or MBs/MBPs, but at $400 they'd probably consider a Mac mini.

There's also plenty of people who'd like to probably give an Apple system a try, but normally settle for an $800 PC because that's what they can best afford. All of a sudden, on Black Friday they see the iMac being offered for such: I think they'd jump on it.

People here (usually the elitists/etc) tend to scoff at such ideas, saying "well, anyone who's buying a $800 PC should be able to easily afford $300 extra for an iMac), but the reality is, there are plenty of people for whom that extra $300 represents half a pay check (or even less).

Overall, I don't think it would have hurt Apple to have joined in and at least offer a few nice discounts on, say, the entry models. But, as others have mentioned, Apple offering just about nothing is par for the course. At least as long as I've been a fan these past 12 years, lol.

So what you are asking for is for Apple to sell at a loss or at no profit. You are asking for a 20-30 percent discount on entry level products to boost sales. It doesn't matter if you sell a million units instead of a thousand if you are selling at cost, or worse at a loss.

You say that "why should people spend half a paycheck (300) to get a Mac" Well I did just that. I scrimped and saved and got a Macbook. If I could do it when making 11 bux an hour, then anyone can. Was it hard? Yes. Did I live with an older computer for a long time? Yes. You know what? It was worth that scrimping and saving. When I look at my GF's Acer notebook that was 200 cheaper than my MacBook, I do not regret it for an instant. When she looks at my MacBook, she wants one, and wishes she had saved up the other 200 for one.

Apples are premium products. Black Friday sales are nice, but asking for a 1000 notebook to be 700 is ridiculous. Same thing about asking for a 600 mini to be 400.

If you want cheap computers, buy a Dell or HP.

Chef Jay
 
It's extremely frustrating that I can get the new Macbook from Amazon, or Best Buy with a free $150 gift card, cheaper than I can from Apple themselves. You would think they could at least MATCH these types of deals! Not everyday, but just MAYBE on black Friday. :mad:

Why is that frustrating? Sounds like Amazon has a good deal that you like. There's nothing special about buying from the Apple online store. Buy at Amazon.
 
What is it with you guys... Apple give you a discount and you moan its not enough...

Moan moan moan.

If they had given you 50% off some would say well i wanted 60%.. blah blah blah...

This site should be macmoaners not macrumors.

No, if it was too big a discount everyone who recently bought something would be crying that they should get a refund or credit (e.g. iPhone price drops).
 
What did you expect? Apple has only offered lame discounts on products every year since they started the Black Friday sales. Move along folks. Nothing to see here.:rolleyes:
 
Does anyone know if people visiting the apple website on the east coast see prices before people on the west coast? Or, will Apple usually post the BF pricing at the same time for everyone?

Anyone on the east coast have any information about the quad core pricing for the 27in. iMac?
 
Does anyone know if people visiting the apple website on the east coast see prices before people on the west coast? Or, will Apple usually post the BF pricing at the same time for everyone?

Anyone on the east coast have any information about the quad core pricing for the 27in. iMac?

I'm on the east and don't see any changes yet. Not sure when they'll flick the switch. Could be at 5AM or 8AM? Don't know when it happened in the past either.
 
decent deals through macmall, tempting for a new MBP but don't really need one so might wait until next year
 
I'm on the east and don't see any changes yet. Not sure when they'll flick the switch. Could be at 5AM or 8AM? Don't know when it happened in the past either.

Apparently anyone who actually witnessed the starting time of previous Apple BF sales is no longer around to tell the tale.



(Though I have heard a rumor that if you happen to be lucky enough to see the beginning, that you receive a golden ticket to Cupertino...)
 
EDU prices are for some products to high!

Hi,

I just compared the black friday sales prices in the EDU Store and in the regular store and for some items the price in the EDU store is HGHER ! E.g. iWork, Airport Express and others. Just to be aware that if you want those items you better buy them in the regular store.
 
Apple product discount?

Yea, that's gonna happen when JC comes down and starts the 2nd Coming. Don't hold your breath on that.

I'll be getting some sweet deals on 2 netbooks and other PC related items this year. Waiting for Apple "discounts" has lost its appeal.
 
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