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apple blew it

Vercingetorix said:
Yep, Cook probably dreamed this phone up by himself in the last two months. This isn't what Jobs had planned at all.
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It takes months to design and produce a phone, Jobs absolutely signed off on this phone.

This 4S must have been in works since the Verizon iPhone came out to combine two protocols and bring Sprint on board and a better fix for antenna issue.
 
Wow, just cos it's not had a redesign, people are throwing their toys out of the pram? the specs are fairly decent and pretty much on par with the rumors that even the 'redesigned iPhone 5' guys liked. Absurd!
 
what is the best android phone so far and will there be any release of a new android phone in the next months? Looking forward for android :)
 
peskaa said:
They did the same with the 3GS. Sold like hotcakes.
The fact that it sells a lot does not mean it is not a disappointment. I'd be interested to see what happens to Apple's marketshare though....


Why would you buy any technology in that case? There's always something better round the corner.

Obviously, but if the year-to-year upgrades are more or less on par with one another, than it's understandable. If you sell something in 2011 that doesn't reflect the best of what 2011 is capable of, then "upgrade" is a suspect term.

Ah yes. Made up statistics that support your viewpoint. Please, provide real evidence that it's a 20:1 ratio for people wanting physically bigger screens.

Sorry that my obvious hyperbole escaped you, but a quick perusal of these forums (filled with self-proclaimed mac fans, I might add) AND the design specs of competing phones shows a pretty obvious trend in customer desire. Furthermore, we BOTH know the iPhone 5 (I guess the 2012 iPhone...) WILL have a bigger screen. If Apple sticks to a 3.5 inch screen for the 5, I will eat my words, but they will not, and what will you say then? In 2011, I didn't want a large screen, but in 2012 I do? Give me a break. The worst kind of fanboyism: blindly conforming your tastes to what is available. "Oh, Apple doesn't make computers with blu-ray...I don't need bluray." "Oh that only comes in one color...I don't like red that much anyways." If you don't personally want a bigger screen, that's fine, but the public at large does; Apple doesn't always know best.

Oh no! Four months is such a long period of time...
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Not exactly sure what you mean by this...I wasn't upset to wait longer for the extra phone, only that those extra months were seemingly not used to bring correspondingly large changes
 
shandyman said:
Wow, just cos it's not had a redesign, people are throwing their toys out of the pram? the specs are fairly decent and pretty much on par with the rumors that even the 'redesigned iPhone 5' guys liked. Absurd!
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Exactly.

Apple could have introduced a 4.3 screen with the same specs as the IP4 and people would have been happy.

Everyone really expected a bigger screen.

They'll get over it.
 
bondibeach said:
what is the best android phone so far and will there be any release of a new android phone in the next months? Looking forward for android :)
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Samsung Nexus Prime

Samsung Galaxy Nexus (GT-i9250 + SCH-i515)
Announcement: 10/11/2011 @ CTIA
Release Date: 11/3/2011 (per cryptic tweet)
First to market with Ice Cream Sandwich OS (2.4.1)
Verizon Wireless exclusive at first, will trickle down to other carriers in the months ahead
Contoured 4.65 inch SAMOLED+ @ 1280x720
1.5GHz TI OMAP 4460 Dual Core SoC
PowerVR SGX 540 @ 384MHz
1GB RAM
5MP Camera + advanced sensors (1080p recording/playback)
2MP front facing camera
MHL (proprietary port by Samsung that acts as a charging/HDMI port)
NFC ready (Google Wallet)
CDMA/GSM/LTE ready (will eventually be available on all 4 U.S carriers)
Will be ~8.8mm thick (as thick as current AT&T SGS II LTE phone)
No physical/capacitive buttons except for Power, volume buttons
 
BigPrince said:
Why did we have to wait till October?
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because if you ignorant fools dont remember the earthquake and masses of unfortunate events that happened in japan "where apple seems to get all of its supplies from" and all the factories going kaboom blah blah...thats the main reason we had to wait till october...as so rumor tells it...
 
aohus said:
Samsung Nexus Prime

Samsung Galaxy Nexus (GT-i9250 + SCH-i515)
Announcement: 10/11/2011 @ CTIA
Release Date: 11/3/2011 (per cryptic tweet)
First to market with Ice Cream Sandwich OS (2.4.1)
Verizon Wireless exclusive at first, will trickle down to other carriers in the months ahead
Contoured 4.65 inch SAMOLED+ @ 1280x720
1.5GHz TI OMAP 4460 Dual Core SoC
PowerVR SGX 540 @ 384MHz
1GB RAM
5MP Camera + advanced sensors (1080p recording/playback)
2MP front facing camera
MHL (proprietary port by Samsung that acts as a charging/HDMI port)
NFC ready (Google Wallet)
CDMA/GSM/LTE ready (will eventually be available on all 4 U.S carriers)
Will be ~8.8mm thick (as thick as current AT&T SGS II LTE phone)
No physical/capacitive buttons except for Power, volume buttons
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does this phone come in the same cheap, flimsy, horrible plastic case like the GSII?
 
I love how you people who are talking about switching to an android phone can do nothing but quote specs. Dual Core this, quad core that, OMG 4.5" SCREEN I CAN WATCH MOVIES!!

Why would I want to watch movies on my phone when I have a tablet? I use my phone to...wait for it...to make phone calls and check things quicky as well as text. I dont want to stream netflix, or use it to read a book. I want something that fits in my pocket comfortably, is fast enough to get what I need of the net, and can play a couple of simple games. Dont need a super computer in my pocket. Its like who has the larger epeen on the net or something.

Siri is also going to change the game, I drive alot of work and with the new anti texting laws while driving, this is a HUGE advantage. Now I can do everything with just my voice and not worry about being pulled over by the cops.
 
i dont care how fugly the iphone 4s came out, compared to my 3gs, its a major upgrade...

to all the 3g people, i was glad to say that my 3gs was better than yours,

to all the 4 people, i WILL be glad to say that my 4s will be better than yours...

its a cycle that i am willing to be in... no matter what..

also, my 4s will be twice as fast than you Android people :rolleyes:

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ripper998 said:
I love how you people who are talking about switching to an android phone can do nothing but quote specs. Dual Core this, quad core that, OMG 4.5" SCREEN I CAN WATCH MOVIES!!

Why would I want to watch movies on my phone when I have a tablet? I use my phone to...wait for it...to make phone calls and check things quicky as well as text. I dont want to stream netflix, or use it to read a book. I want something that fits in my pocket comfortably, is fast enough to get what I need of the net, and can play a couple of simple games. Dont need a super computer in my pocket. Its like who has the larger epeen on the net or something.

Siri is also going to change the game, I drive alot of work and with the new anti texting laws while driving, this is a HUGE advantage. Now I can do everything with just my voice and not worry about being pulled over by the cops.
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ding ding ding!!! :cool:
 
The 4S would be a great upgrade from the 3GS but its a disappointment I might be sticking with android.
 
i see cheapo pc's with 'better' specs than much more expensive macs. which run better,faster,smoother?

same with android/iphone
 
chrono1081 said:
Did you even watch the keynote? I bet you didn't...

Lets see:
-Browsing on par with 4G speeds from a 3G phone.
-Amazing power and great battery life.
-Siri is honestly cool (which is funny because I thought I'd never use it).
-New and improved camera.
-New iOS

How is that not a good improvement? How did Apple blow it? I hope you realize technology doesn't evolve as fast as Macrumors readers think it does.

People expect too much. If you want something amazingly better go invent it.
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Agreed. I am a little disappointed that the 4S doesn't have a bigger screen (I was hoping for a 3.7-4in screen), but besides that, I am quite happy with it. 4G isn't that big of a deal for me because my city won't be getting 4G anytime soon. Like chrono said, the 4S has a greatly increased antenna, which allows speeds close to 4G speeds. The internals are awesome, and iOS5, iCloud, and Siri make the phone that much better. I think i'm going to get the 16 or 32gb model.
 
Im an Apple stalker/fan and am actually embarrassed I went around defending them for the past year. The passion, innovation, and magic left with Steve Jobs.

I just know Apple will get a lot of bad press at least in the techno blog world.
 
Was hoping to see the 5. Oh well... They're still gonna sell a trillion of the 4s.

I hope Apple doesn't stay complacent... with Steve gone and this keynote I am seriously starting to doubt that Apple can stay so dominant.

If I'm Google, Amazon, Motorola this keynote just gave me a glimmer of hope.
 
nickpro said:
call me crazy, but i don't think Apple is too concerned with the minuscule population of cell phone geeks that are overly-concerned with having a larger screen and 4G. when everything is said and done the 4S will replace the 4 as the top-selling smartphone.
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Apple needs to be concerned, these days it is the geeks like us who make or break a product.

I am so dismayed, the keynote was like a million dreams shattering to pieces. :(
 
Apple failed to manage the media rumors buzzing around the IPhone5, and this media BS produced unrealistic customer expectations. Big mistake Apple. It's going be expensive.
 
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