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This is taking things too far. There's nothing wrong or irrelevant about letting customers know where their money is going.

Apple knows their 30% is too high. They're scared.
They're not scared because it's too high. It's been 30% since the beginning and only recently suddenly became "too high." They're scared because they know a lot of the mandates, laws, and restrictions in this country (the United States, where they operate from) are made by mob rule, and not even majority mob rule, but very vocal and dramatic minority mob rule. Smart company trying to avoid stupid rules made by stupid people. That's all it is.
 
Transparency is not a bad thing.
Transparency is fine, but it's not like Apple is even hiding this information. Anyone with Google and a free 30 seconds can find out exactly how much of the money goes to Apple if they're interested in that information. It's been 30% since the beginning. Why isn't everyone up in arms about Walmart not telling you how much of the money you spent on those bananas goes to Walmart and how much goes to the suppliers?
 
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While I feel Apple has a right to charge fees and block alternate payment options on their App Store, The fact they are removing commentary about it is censorship and I’m not ok with that.
 
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The case against Apple's App Store Monopoly is getting stronger and stronger, thanks to Apple.

Seriously? "irrelevant" information? This is extremely relevant information especially when it comes to money.

Sellers will obviously wonder why they're getting 30% less and will assume Facebook took it. All these little things adds up to a pretty compelling case against Apple's App Monopoly.

Apple users cheered when Apple introduced more transparency to Facebook's tracking information in iOS 14 and for good reasons. But isn't Facebook doing the same thing here? Being transparent!
As far as I know, there's no rule that says Facebook can't tell sellers how much they will end up with. But pointing the finger at Apple and saying "it's their fault, they're taking all that extra money" is just petty and unprofessional. If Facebook doesn't want to pay that 30% and allow sellers to sell on Apple's platform, they can take that feature off. But I'm guessing they'll leave it on because sellers will make way more money having access to iOS customers than without them.
 
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While I feel Apple has a right to charge fees and block alternate payment options on their App Store, The fact they are removing commentary about it is censorship and I’m not ok with that.
Nonsense. They’re not removing anything. They’re simply not allowing certain things to be written about the contract the developer has signed up to.
It’s a type of censorship, sure. But then there are no porn apps allowed on the AppStore either. That’s censorship too.
It’s not to erode someones rights, it’s merely to comply with the rules set out within the contract.
 
Why am I not paying $6.99 is relevant, isn't it?
First, I highly doubt the cost of apples cut would be handed over to you in the unlikely event of them been forbidden to take it, so you would still pay the 9.99.

Second, you could say that about anything anyway. I’m a photographer. People who won’t pay my fee don’t get my photographs. They can tell me how unfair or expensive it seems, but I’ll generally just let them know it’s the rate. Is they don’t like it, they can go to another photographer and get a different set of images. They may find a better photographer cheaper elsewhere. They may not.
Anything that costs me personally to make my business happen, I pass on to the customer. Everyone in business does this, it’s called making money. They certainly don’t need to know the individual breakdown, and nor would they care.
 
If a user is paying for something, they have a right to know who benifits from having their money.
Who in the entire world doesn't have the right to use Google for 30 seconds and find out how much Apple charges developers for a purchase? And if they don't have that right, how is that Apple's fault?

Or are you saying that every receipt we ever get should have a detailed breakdown of exactly how much of that money goes to who? How detailed are we talking here? Should Apple engrave on every iPhone exactly how much of your money is going to the mining company that harvested the aluminum? Should Walmart include a detailed breakdown of every single item on your receipt when you buy groceries? Should I, as a freelancer, be required to tell clients exactly how much of their money will be spent on food for my family, and how much will be spent on recreation for me, and so forth?
 
You cannot count on the average user out there to know how much of the payment goes to Apple (even despite this topic being in the news) and then use a web browser instead.
You can't count on the average user even caring one little bit about who exactly gets every single penny of their purchase. Most customers care about one thing, the total price. Is it worth it? Buy it. It's not worth it? Buy something else. There's your average user. So Apple, in this case, is right about it being irrelevant information.
 
But you can’t prove it now can you, here to us. See how it works?
Like you Argumentation it is so „trumpish“ can you say it this way? Everything Trump doesn‘t like is Fake News - same way your doing it? Did you want to say this with „See how it works?“ ?
 
Facebook has the right to talk about it in public, but not inside the app. Like most e-commerce companies, Apple has an anti-circumvention clause in their contract. 3rd parties aren't allowed to encourage purchases outside the app OR attempt to discourage purchases inside the app. Facebook's message about Apple's 30% cut in the app was an attempt to discourage a purchase in the app.

Apple make this information public, just search for Apple App Store fees. Facebook is merely trying to capitalize on what they hope is public outrage against Apple to cut their own expense and make more profit. If it happens to benefit anyone else (and I'm skeptical of that), it's mere coincidence.
 
Second, you could say that about anything anyway. I’m a photographer. People who won’t pay my fee don’t get my photographs. They can tell me how unfair or expensive it seems, but I’ll generally just let them know it’s the rate. Is they don’t like it, they can go to another photographer and get a different set of images. They may find a better photographer cheaper elsewhere. They may not.
Anything that costs me personally to make my business happen, I pass on to the customer. Everyone in business does this, it’s called making money. They certainly don’t need to know the individual breakdown, and nor would they care.
You hit it. In a free market everybody can choose the photographer he likes and you can’t charge what you want - or you have to the best. And you have competition so if someone is better and cheaper you have to lower your price, right?

This is exactly what we need for the AppStore. Competition!
 
Let's say you want to pay to attend one of these online events with a company that you have a good relationship with and want to support. Now lets say that hypothetically Apple took 90%. Would it be "irrelevant" then? At what point does it become "irrelevant"?

Have you looked into the fees some of these "charity benefit" organizations, the ones that run special celebrity events for charity, take from the funds they raise? Do a little research. If you want to get outraged about percentage cuts, there are much more worthy subjects.
 
Like you Argumentation it is so „trumpish“ can you say it this way? Everything Trump doesn‘t like is Fake News - same way your doing it? Did you want to say this with „See how it works?“ ?
Person says something baseless on the internet. Other person asks for proof.
Pretty much the opposite of trump wouldn’t you think?
You hit it. In a free market everybody can choose the photographer he likes and you can’t charge what you want - or you have to the best. And you have competition so if someone is better and cheaper you have to lower your price, right?

This is exactly what we need for the AppStore. Competition!
Android.
 
You hit it. In a free market everybody can choose the photographer he likes and you can’t charge what you want - or you have to the best. And you have competition so if someone is better and cheaper you have to lower your price, right?

This is exactly what we need for the AppStore. Competition!

So why aren't people outraged about the state of support for Android? If there's so much desire for competition, seems like there should be a solid business model to shore up long term support for Android and the Google Play store. I don't get the complaints against the company that's popular and doing well, just because the competition isn't trying very hard. Why aren't we hearing that Google or the other phone manufacturers should be doing a better job supporting customers? Isn't competition supposed to involve trying to draw customers by being the best? Which platform is failing its customers?
 
You hit it. In a free market everybody can choose the photographer he likes and you can’t charge what you want - or you have to the best. And you have competition so if someone is better and cheaper you have to lower your price, right?

This is exactly what we need for the AppStore. Competition!
I can and do charge what I want though.
If I never got booking I would start by charging less.
If I get too many, I may put my prices up a bit.
I have competition, but my competition is based on quality of work not price charged. It stands to reason you pay more to get better quality.
 
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So why aren't people outraged about the state of support for Android? If there's so much desire for competition, seems like there should be a solid business model to shore up long term support for Android and the Google Play store. I don't get the complaints against the company that's popular and doing well, just because the competition isn't trying very hard. Why aren't we hearing that Google or the other phone manufacturers should be doing a better job supporting customers? Isn't competition supposed to involve trying to draw customers by being the best? Which platform is failing its customers?
Think this is an Apple forum, why should anyone complain about Android? Android is under investigation of antitrust commissions as well and if Apple gets regulated, so will be Google.

In the latest Facebook case, I don‘t know if Google charges 30%
 
I can and do charge what I want though.
If I never got booking I would start by charging less.
If I get too many, I may put my prices up a bit.
I have competition, but my competition is based on quality of work not price charged. It stands to reason you pay more to get better quality.
Deal! Charge a million dollar for a picture and tell me how much you sold - in a year? I‚m talking of a free market where prices regulate itself - why is this so hard to understand for you? I‘m giving up - charge you million or billion if you do not understand it ...
 
Tim Cook does NOT believe in Transparency !

That was first-evident when he decided to Stop Reporting "iPhone Unit Sales," because the numbers didn't look good for AAPL, & because they knew there are Stock Analysts out there (Munster, Ives, Huberty, Cramer), who are really "AAPL Cheerleaders" masquerading as so-called Pro Stock Analysts.

Ideally, New Law would force AAPL to release per-Qtr, per-Category Revenue Numbers for the iOS App Store here in the States, at each Quarterly / Annual Earnings Release.

If that were to happen, it would be the first salvo towards Transparency !

Much more needs to be done, however !!

AAPL is trading 40% above its true market cap, ALL based upon Hype.

It traded under $193/share in early Aug of 2019 !

ONLY if/when the App Store becomes Transparent, will it have a chance to truly blossom !

Simple things, like (Basic) Filters for Search, are long overdue !

E.g., ONLY show apps that have been Updated in the past 90 days.

OR how about, do NOT show ANY Game Apps OR Apple Arcade stuff OR Little Kid Apps in the iOS App Store "today" tab !

5G is NOT a catalyst !

AAPL has never had a surge in iPhone Unit Sales because of a Technology.

iPhone 6/6+ & the (over-hypped) iPhone X are the ONLY two surges that have occurred the past five years.

AAPL's BEST Technology addition to any iPhone was the A7 in the 5s, one year BEOFRE the 6/6+, & which helped drive demand for the 6/6+, but it was the size increases that triggered most Upgrades !

5G is nothing special, esp since its best benefit can't currently be used (i.e., for large live events).
 
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Deal! Charge a million dollar for a picture and tell me how much you sold - in a year? I‚m talking of a free market where prices regulate itself - why is this so hard to understand for you? I‘m giving up - charge you million or billion if you do not understand it ...
Of course I understand it. I’m running a business just fine. And it does regulate itself, hence me saying if I don’t get enough business I may go cheaper, if I get too much I may go more expensive.
Who said anything about charging a million for anything? But I’m not a charity, I have a living to make and a product that’s worth money. So I sell it for what it’s worth. It’s not my problem someone or other cannot afford it.
Not sure why you’re getting so upset about it all.
 
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