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Weren't there similar rumors about vacation being held up during the first couple of weeks in September? Hmmmmm
 
Since nobody is staying on the topic at hand, I am changing the topic to pizza. I love me some thick crust pie. How about you?

Thick crust is good :). Thin crusts are tasteless. I wonder what Apple's pizza would taste like if they made a pizza...
 
Thick crust is good :). Thin crusts are tasteless. I wonder what Apple's pizza would taste like if they made a pizza...

I'm pretty sure Apple could never make a pizza better then my local Italian restaurant. Remember, Apple enters markets that "well served".
 
Release the new iPhone already! I holding off on buying an iPhone until then. Seems like the hold-up is with iOS 5.0 and not necessarily with the hardware. For such a long delay one would expect a major announcement besides the expected updates.

I'm still waiting on the day they release an MBA form factor with iOS on it. That day may be upon us. With the iCould that could complete with Google's Chrome platform quite readily and handily. We'll see. New iPods, iPhones, iOS, and iTunes for sure though. :cool:
 
I disagree that 5x the numbers would pour into the USA if allowed; I think that might have been the case years ago, but today we are not that attractive based on our own economic state. Population does matter, and the only reason the USA could grow as it had in the last 200 years really was the vast resources and nearly unlimited (for the time) land opportunities. Comparing that to Europe is like comparing Apples to Oranges; the Netherlands have been relatively stable for the last 400 years in size, so the fact they attracted, as a percentage of their own population, even half the rate that the USA did is saying something. Opportunities are directly linked with population size; smaller populations (and shrinking ones, like Japan) do not attract large numbers of opportunities the same way.

Agree. It's also about advertising: "America, the land of opportunity". Who hasn't heard all those stories about people growing from paperboy to millionaire? The truth is that opportunities nowadays are the same in most northern European countries as in the USA. We are just more realistic in our advertising and don't attract people with green card lotteries and empty promises. The truth is that a large part of all migrants without education entering the USA will never become what you advertise and remain unemployed or living a life close to poverty.
 
Scientists are great and we need their basic research to underpin what engineers do.

Scientists-->Engineer-->Users

A world made entirely by Scientists and Engineers is not a world I'd want to live in. I'm amazed this kind of engineer-snobbery is rife in an Apple forum, of all places. I'm a scientist/engineer myself, but I have a great deal of respect and envy for people with other talents. I like my world (and my gadgets) to be fun and beautiful, not just well-engineered.
 
Great! No sleep or food for me until the new iPhone is out!

As soon as I get out of bed and finish eating this scone and jam thats it.

Just finishing off the other scones I baked and that's it for me, no more till the iP5 is announced.

Good job I baked 5276.
 
What about the politicians who create the laws that enable scientists to do their jobs? :D

Voted in by the people - aka Users, therefore:

Users > Politicians > Scientists > Engineers

We can play this game all day.
 
True, but the USA got to be large because of lots of immigration, as it was smaller than Holland once.

was it? you know, there was s o m e people already living on the land when the immigrants arrived... (the whole history of the US makes you wonder - what is there to be proud of?)
 
You mean to Europe where unemployment is exploding?

Europe is not a country, so if you are gonna count Europes "unemployment rate" you might as well account Mexico, Honduras, Cuba, El Salvador, Jamaica and every other country in North America when looking at the US #.

There is a reason to why the US is #30 on the quality of life list. 25 European countries a head of the US. And even 1 North American; Canada which is quite obvious. And even with the employment rate, too many people in the US are forced to work 2 jobs and more than 40h per week. A normal factory worker in Sweden might receive about $35-40/h if he's asked to work more than 40h a week (extra time).
 
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n00b question, but how does pre-ordering work? I still have the 3G...so yeah...I have no clue. Is it easier to get it at my local ATT Store or Internet or at the Apple Store?
 
I'm glad to see that the mods cleaned this thread up a bit. All the bickering and racist comments were not a good advert.Especially as the thread is on the main page.

Anyway, back to the topic........



Can't wait! :D
 
I wonder why 2-8 million people migrate to the USA every year (small sample, it only covers the past 50 years) while between 0 and 200,000 people migrate to the Netherlands annually.

Probably because everything is so much better in Holland.

Last year 100K moved to Holland, and 5 million moved to the USA.

Holland is surrounded by countries which are approximately equal in wealth and quality of living. Holland is also in a "corner" of Europe, so it would be a "final destination" for people migrating into Europe (at least from land). You should probably check immigration into Europe as a whole.

Also, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

notice that Holland is (slightly) above the USA. In the "Quality of life index" list (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-life_Index) the USA is at 13 and Holland is at 16 (this is a "subjective" list).
 
Now that my high horse is getting tired, I'll also add that I'm really looking forward to the iPhone 5, even though I have a 4. This has been the worse iPhone of the lot, and I miss my 1st gen iPhone's build quality. This thing is crap, save the metallic volume buttons. By far the worse iPhone I've purchased (since I'm now on my 5th refurbed model due to errors in the previous devices).

Have you ever considered that you're probably doing something wrong? I have never heard of so many replacements for a phone, let alone the iPhone 4. The build quality is very good and on par with previous iPhones. What, may I ask, were these 'errors'? Perhaps refurbished models aren't the best replacements either.
 
Have you ever considered that you're probably doing something wrong? I have never heard of so many replacements for a phone, let alone the iPhone 4. The build quality is very good and on par with previous iPhones. What, may I ask, were these 'errors'? Perhaps refurbished models aren't the best replacements either.

You're right in regards to refurbs not being the best replacements, though my problems were mostly not nit-picking. My first iPhone 4 couldn't make or receive calls and had antenae issues beyond the grip of death, 1st replacement had 10~ dead pixels, next replacement had dust under the rear camera lens cover that obscured photos, and the last replacement had issues with the flash flickering and not turning on at all in some cases. I never had so many problems with my original iPhone (which had no issues) or my iPhone 3G (which nay had e white plastic cracking issue).
 
bla bla new iphone here iphone 5 there

here you have it: high quality spy pics



and yes, it is slightly LARGER, it has wifi on cabel, capability to connect directly in mobile network and therefore no signal problems :D

There is also 99% chance it`ll be avaliable in colors at beginning, excluding black version due to samsung threats of law suit over patented black color tone.

As you can see, there`s no touchscreen as manufacturers weren`t able to keep up with production numbers, so Apple had to come up with mind control interface which also means that buttons are not needed anymore.

Another thing to mention is the new battery, which is now due to bigger dimensions and advancement in technology not rechargable and it lasts for a year and a half. In that time, new iFon will be announced.

That`s all for now, gotta run into woods so Apple folks won`t track me down for leaking high profile infos :cool:

bye
 
Catastrophic wealth disparity, rational vs irrational leadership, noble professions vs difficult ones, genocide of the natives, unemployment, quality of life index, city children with disposable income "camping" & forming breadlines... for toys...


This little thread just keeps on giving.
 
I wonder what Apple's pizza would taste like if they made a pizza...

For immediate release.
September 19, 2011

Apple stunned the culinary world today by announcing iPizza, a revolutionary new offering in the Italian foods market segment.

"Pizza is such a fragmented confusing food segment", said Tim Cook, Apple's recently appointed CEO. "You have all these topping and crust choices, and the pizza experience just isn't consistent".

To address these issues, Apple is making just two pizza lines, the iPizza Air, featuring an ultra thin crust, that will support up to two toppings, and the iPizza Pro, with a durable thick crust capable of upgrading to up to ten toppings.

As with other Apple products, great attention to detail has been put into the packaging. Both iPizzas use a box constructed from aluminum and other proprietary materials, that include a built-in warming and cooling units, and are constructed with tolerances that will prevent spoiling for up one year after purchase. Apple will offer their standard Apple Care extended warranty service for iPizza as well, allowing buyers to preserve their pie for up to 3 years without concern of food poisoning.

"People will be excited to see our wide range of carefully selected vegetables and seasoned meats that we know work well together", said Cook, "However, we won't be offering any fruit like Pineapple. We don't think that's a reasonable topping choice, and our buyers shouldn't either. The only fruit will be on the box!" Cook remarked playfully.

In response to Apple's new market direction, Google immediately revealed gPizza, a product that apparently has been under development for several years.

"It's come to our attention Apple is suddenly making Italian food products", said Larry Page, CEO of Google, "and that they have existing patents for round, fast foods, which of course will conflict with another of our new products, the gBurger".

Page went on to describe the key differences in the gPizza, which allows you to have different crusts on the same pizza and that gPizza will be sold in a "vanilla" version, where buyers can supply their own toppings.

"There will be several sources for gPizza enhancements, because we feel the pizza consumer should be able to get anything they want for their pie", noted Page, but in speaking with some early beta testers, we learned many of the topping and cheese vendors aren't the same.

"I got some mushrooms from online, and they weren't very compatible", said one beta tester, who wished to remain anonymous. "I ordered a gPizza 2.1.3 Revision a, Build 3124" and the mushrooms were for a Build 3122, so they made the green peppers a little bitter.

As this release went to publication, we learned that MacRumors has reported a Chinese tableware manufacturer releasing prototype pictures of a new bowl that may point to a salad companion product for the iPizza.

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n00b question, but how does pre-ordering work? I still have the 3G...so yeah...I have no clue. Is it easier to get it at my local ATT Store or Internet or at the Apple Store?

There will be a pre ordering page on both AT&T, and Apples store page. Apple always provides it's own stores with more units just a heads up. However last year was a fiasco with preordering and it took me from 5AM-9AM just to get my preorder in with Apple.

Release the new iPhone already! I holding off on buying an iPhone until then. Seems like the hold-up is with iOS 5.0 and not necessarily with the hardware. For such a long delay one would expect a major announcement besides the expected updates.

I'm still waiting on the day they release an MBA form factor with iOS on it. That day may be upon us. With the iCould that could complete with Google's Chrome platform quite readily and handily. We'll see. New iPods, iPhones, iOS, and iTunes for sure though. :cool:
Apple won't be having another Mobile Me fiasco so rest assured it will all be ready when it's ready. Apple knows the importance of the holiday season so I'm sure it will be ready by then.
 
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