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Apple Blocking Push Notifications on Unlocked iPhones?

Oh boy, here we go again, people are going to knock Apple over this issue, when it's likely something the hack broke since the dev team can fix it.

If your going to hack your devices, you have to accept that the hackers may not have all the bases covered. If the benefits work out for you, then by all means, go for it. But don't cry to Apple about it when things don't work.
 
hitekalex said:
You have heard about this little thing called "the Internet", right? That was originally a US government project. And my local fire department is also a great operation, thank you very much.

So yeah, not all things invented/controlled by the government are bad.
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Other than the wires connecting things up, and the resilient forwarding network, everything on the internet is private or "not for profit" stuff: browsers, email, etc.

The internet was implemented to provide communications after a nuclear attack; there were several competing techologies: arpanet, to name one.

I didn't say 100% of government stuff was non-functional out of the box, but I will say that in general, if the government takes something over, a little less than 500 fiefdoms (known as congressional districts) are formed to get a piece of the action.

I'm in favor of the gov doing what it must: fire, police, and other public safety functions are among them. But they should stay out of regulating commerce unless a bona fide, destructive monopoly develops; and I'm happy for them to regulate false statement by commercial enterprises. But don't tell Apple, ATT, Microsoft, Oracle, et al what to build.

Eddie O
 
MacCheetah3 said:
In the U.S., there aren't any officially unlocked iPhones. I'm not fully aware if there are any officially unlocked iPhones being offered in other counties.
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There are. From the NZ store:

iPhone 3G & iPhone 3GS purchased at the Apple Online Store can be activated with any wireless carrier. Simply insert the SIM from your current phone into iPhone 3G or iPhone 3GS and connect to iTunes 8.2 to complete activation.
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joshysquashy said:
The article mentions both unlocked and unofficially activated phones. My iPhone is officially activated with an O2 sim, but I have unlocked it for occasional use with other sims.

Will my iPhone accept push notifications or not?
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Yes it will. I bought my phone in the U.S and activated it with a pre-paid AT&T SIM card. It's now unlocked and being used in Japan with Softbank. All push apps are working perfectly.
 
edoates said:
But they should stay out of regulating commerce unless a bona fide, destructive monopoly develops; and I'm happy for them to regulate false statement by commercial enterprises. But don't tell Apple, ATT, Microsoft, Oracle, et al what to build.
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Yeah, and "government staying out of regulating commerce" has worked extremely well for Wall Street, and consequently our 401k's savings.. right.

The government SHOULD in fact be able to tell two companies (Apple & AT&T in our case) to cease from engaging in anti-competitive activities.. like making iPhone exclusive to just one carrier in the US market. AT&T has in fact attempted to do just that with regular POTS phones back in the days, before they were officially declared a monopoly and broken up. This is a far cry from "telling Apple/AT&T what to build".
 
Let's be honest and sum it up - this news post is not front page news. It's also, F.U.D. and complete and utter made up nonsense. As pointed out by loads of people in the thread, it all works just fine. You just have to have at least 'once' activated your phone with a valid SIM with iTunes. You then get the activated popup on the phone and that's it, job done.

The makers of the app are probably dealing with a long list of people that don't know that little snippet of information and then spread F.U.D. about it. All the dev-team are trying to do, is be able to make it 'activate' with iTunes/Push regardless. Which they've managed to do with the little haxie you can install via Cydia.

All in all, what's this story doing on the front page exactly? Apple aren't blocking anything.
 
First; Apple needs to check for registered iPhones (UUID's) otherwise they might forward data to the wrong customer. As in all (if any) blocking is perfectly legit.

And the main reason for people in the EU to unlock their iPhone is that they travel more, and to more different countries.

p.s. Data roaming has recently been limited to 1 euro per MB (for all EU countries) but that makes a single GB still way to expensive – I e-mailed with the office of Nelie Smit Kroes and they assured me that new regulation is being worked on for after 2010 already.
 
I pay $50 bucks for my Pay as you go plan. I was one of the lucky ones that bought a refurbish iphone, took it in for a LCD screen issue, got a brand spankin new one and still enjoying inexpensive service with unlimited data. Screw PUSH... it drains you battery like it's the end of the world. No biggie. And visual v-mail? Who uses that anyways :) he he just kidding
 
fletch33 said:
im on ATT myself and my bill along with my wifes no data plan phone is $205/month. my buddy has 2 unlocked iPhones one for him and one for his wife and they run on our local Bell provider with unlimited everything for $125/month.

$80/month or more savings may be why some people choose to unlock.

he doesnt care about visual voicemail and although his internet is much slower all of his apps work and he is able to use MMS with no problems.
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yup i only pay $75(including taxes) for what would cost $110+taxes on att, that's why I choose to unlock.

My credit also wasn't good enough to open a line of service with at&t when I was first shopping for a cell phone, they wanted a $600 deposit. So I went with Tmobile, they do not require credit in order to use their service!

I don't even know what visual voicemail is anyway, i'm not at AT&T user so I don't miss that feature, I don't need push for anything, al though I wish my Gmail would push! grrr, but that's it. I'm not missing out on any other features.
 
For thos on O2 in the UK my 1st gen unlocked iPhone stopped getting calls because of the push restriction once I upgraded to OS 3.0, it did my head in for two days trying to work out if it was O2 , the phone etc, then I found a solution t switch to fetch and viola it all started working again.
 
boomish said:
For thos on O2 in the UK my 1st gen unlocked iPhone stopped getting calls because of the push restriction once I upgraded to OS 3.0, it did my head in for two days trying to work out if it was O2 , the phone etc, then I found a solution t switch to fetch and viola it all started working again.
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But that is just a workaround and not a real solution – no more real push notifications.
 
fletch33 said:
im on ATT myself and my bill along with my wifes no data plan phone is $205/month. my buddy has 2 unlocked iPhones one for him and one for his wife and they run on our local Bell provider with unlimited everything for $125/month.

$80/month or more savings may be why some people choose to unlock.

he doesnt care about visual voicemail and although his internet is much slower all of his apps work and he is able to use MMS with no problems.
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You should get that checked lol. My phone service has 4 lines, unlimited mms and text for all lines ($30 a month for a family), iPhone with iPhone data package, 1400 minutes. My bill is only around 166$
 
This article is plain wrong and needs to distinguish between officially unlocked phones and ones that are hacked.

My iPhone was purchased from an Apple Store, officially unlocked out of the box and is used on a carrier that didn't have official carrier settings until a couple of days ago.

All officially unlocked iPhones - the ones that say "congratulations" when you plug them into iTunes - work perfectly with push notifications.
 
cerote said:
You should get that checked lol. My phone service has 4 lines, unlimited mms and text for all lines ($30 a month for a family), iPhone with iPhone data package, 1400 minutes. My bill is only around 166$
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Indeed. Me and my fiance both have brand new iPhones, and we have a third regular old cell phone, and the bill is $125/mo.

emulator said:
everyone is paying full price. however, some pay it up front, the rest pay it for 2 years.
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Not sure how you're doing the math on that. The service costs exactly the same whether I pay full price for the phone or get it for the fully subsidized price. Short of putting it on a slower, crappier network with less features, paying full price and then unlocking it doesn't save me money, it costs me more in the long run...
 
MacCheetah3 said:
Hi

In the U.S., there aren't any officially unlocked iPhones. I'm not fully aware if there are any officially unlocked iPhones being offered in other counties.
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There are. I can walk into an Apple Retail Store here in Australia and buy one outright, unlocked.

In fact there are many countries where you can buy factory unlocked phones directly from Apple.
 
all you stupid people like to support apple and give them your money. I find that so funny. As for me, i dont care, as long as i can save money. who gives a damm about apple. I want to pay as little as possible. All those unlocked iphone customers are the smart ones. The at&t customers are stupid. thats it.
 
MacLover4491 said:
all you stupid people like to support apple and give them your money. I find that so funny. As for me, i dont care, as long as i can save money. who gives a damm about apple. I want to pay as little as possible. All those unlocked iphone customers are the smart ones. The at&t customers are stupid. thats it.
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With a username of maclover it seems you may give apple your money. In some areas ATT is better than T-Mobile for the US. I have had Tmobile before and it barely reached main parts of town. ATT has great service everywhere I go within the city and other states I go to also.
 
HI
Very serious question to those 'across the pond', ... Are service rates ( data, TXTs, voice, ... ) that much better / cheaper than the U.S.? I know certain countries ( Japan, .. ) are making the U.S. look laughable at best in the level of technology but I'm talking strictly cost. If the monthly cost isn't any better / cheaper ( TXTs are the most expensive add-on considering what they likely cost the carriers ) when a country or countries carriers offer unlocked phones, than what is the point of arguing?

On a different note, it should help when all of the carriers ( especially in the U.S> ) move to 4G ( LTE ).
 
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