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Apple Board of Directors 'Concerned' About the Speed of Innovation?

I bet you what it is. The board got some information about the iPhone 5S and they're complaining about it being too similar to the iPhone 5. The iPhone is the only real product that has been under constant scrutiny for "lack of innovation" and to some extent the complaints are true. The OS and UI is amazing and will be great with iOS7 but companies like Samsung and HTC are churning out phones at such a speed that they're bound to get one or two phones that outshine the iPhone hardware wise.
 
pirg said:
That's all well and good if the Orange ice cream sellers are sharing their profits. Here's a better example:

Apple sells 50 apple ice creams, Samsung sells 30 Orange and htc sells 30 orange, and you say wow Samsung and htc sold 60, they're doing better than apple!

Of course me saying this is moot, because in your head it makes sense to lump competing companies together.
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and meanwhile (in your own explanation)

we have 50 apple compatible phones in circulation and 60 android compatible phones in circulation.

Only is reality it will be, 50 apple compatible and 200 to 300 android compatible

what do you think the logical long term outcome of a growing high end number of android handsets is going to be?
 
cmChimera said:
The retina macbook team slowly weeps.
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The retina MacBooks are the wrong darn resolution. The 15" is effectively 1440x900 and the 13" is 1280x800. How is that innovation? The 15" needed to be at least 3360x2100 (1680x1050) and the 13" needed to be at least 2880x1800 (1440x900). I found all the retina MacBooks to be useless because, ironically, in retina mode there's not enough damn real estate to work with!
 
You want sales? Make a 5" iphone. It will sell like hotcakes. Of course they should keep selling the 4" iPhone for the little girls. (I kid, I kid). :D

If they want even more sales, make a 5.5" phone alongside the 5" and 4" phone.
 
"Steve Jobs left 4 years of great products in the pipeline"

Well, two of 'em are gone and we're still waiting.
 
hahahahahahaha

OSX: 1999. Game changer.
iTunes and iPod: 2001. Life changer.
iOS: January, 2007. World changer.


Now we're sliding into fall of 2013. 6.5 years since the last bombshell and they clearly do not have another world changer in the pipeline.

What's worse is that they have the resources now that they didn't have back then!

Budget, talent, culture, mandate. All there in abundance.

They're just not doing it. (6 years of UI enhancements to OSX and iOS and trying different sizes of hardware does not change the world.)

Own the living room. Own wearable. Release the product that nobody ever imagined and nobody knew they needed until they held it for the first time. That's what the iMac was. That's what the iPod was.

Or else fire the dang bean counters and put in another visionary before you become the next RIMM or PALM.
 
You guys are all spoiled. Lets face it. There is nothing left to innovate. Yeah, you can enhance things here and there to make it simpler, easier, bigger and more faster. But whats left their to innovate when it comes to smart phones or tablets.
 
Piggie said:
and meanwhile (in your own explanation)

we have 50 apple compatible phones in circulation and 60 android compatible phones in circulation.

Only is reality it will be, 50 apple compatible and 200 to 300 android compatible

what do you think the logical long term outcome of a growing high end number of android handsets is going to be?
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A high amount of android phones being sold. What do you think the logical long term outcome of selling 30m plus phones a qtr will be?
 
pirg said:
If the s4 will win every time, why have more iphones been sold then s4s? Not following your logic.
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Once this quarter is over I bet the S4 outsells the iPhone 5. Apple needs to give people what they want not what they say we want. iOS in no way is innovating at the pace of Android. You can't even set a custom ringtone on an iPhone without buying it. These are the things consumers need. People also like "Free phones" which Apple cannot compete with. Would you want a 3.5" screen phone with 3G that is 3 years old or a 4.5" screen with 4g LTE. The second choice is picked the majority of the time.
 
Apple set the precedence. It's a scenario that cannot always be repeated on schedule, since innovation is not like assembly. Creative ideas, turned into real world products takes time.

Sometimes a company will lead and other times, like lately, they are going to follow. It's simply a position that the believers are not used to being in. It's time for them to get into acceptance and cope with reality.

The one rather undeniable fact was Steve Jobs was like the Ringmaster for Barnum and Bailey. He could put on a show that would captivate the faithful, and keep them mesmerized until the next product was ready. Now missing their master showman, Apple's competitive advantage is gone. It's 2013 and they are competing on the same level playing field as their competition.

Suddenly the game got a whole lot harder.
 
Well....

....Surprising to hear this if it is from the board, but not surprising in that its something I, and many here talk about. I think we can agree that Apple runs a 2 year gap between phone design, a yearly "bump" in internals, an iOS that is only changing after 6 years, and really its not massive change, more of a visual clean up.

Remember the mock ups of the possible iphone 5? That would've been a spectacular phone. What we got was a longer iphone 4. Apple has slowed down on innovation and been happy to do the minimum every year, and this is coming from a long time mac owner, and iphone from the 3GS.
 
mrfrosty said:
How about the Experia Z that waterproof phone thing. That's super cool !! Apple should have had that on the last phone / pad.
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But you have to realize what you just said, its COOL, but not exactly innovating, other electronics have been doing this for years, it's evolutionary but no innovation. FYI it's still awesome though:D
 
Tobym6 said:
Once this quarter is over I bet the S4 outsells the iPhone 5. Apple needs to give people what they want not what they say we want. iOS in no way is innovating at the pace of Android. You can't even set a custom ringtone on an iPhone without buying it. These are the things consumers need. People also like "Free phones" which Apple cannot compete with. Would you want a 3.5" screen phone with 3G that is 3 years old or a 4.5" screen with 4g LTE. The second choice is picked the majority of the time.
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Doubtful.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/haydnsh...s-galaxy-s4-sales-with-warning-for-iphone-5s/

S4 sales have already slowed. No chance it outsells the iPhone.
 
Somehow that headline, from that network, about a company that knows how to play the long-game as much as Apple does...seems about as credible as this tweet turned out to be...

untitled.tiff


(Kass by the way has a habit of buying Apple stock after his "rumors" bring it down to a more affordable price)
 
pirg said:
A high amount of android phones being sold. What do you think the logical long term outcome of selling 30m plus phones a qtr will be?
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Thats an easy one! 30m plus android phones a qtr being dumped into landfills. :D
 
Tesla, perhaps

12vElectronics said:
What other tech companies are revolutionizing the world with their products?
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I get your point. There are very, very few disruptive technologies and few of them can make it to production-at-scale. One of these, perhaps, is Tesla. I still think they are more "automotive" than "high tech", but the stock market seems to think otherwise. Hmm . . . much like Apple, many people actually consider them to have invented very little. But they sure seem to have found a sizable and growing market--and it is one that can provide very high margins relative to their peers.
 
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