More precisely, Apple is the most valuable stock by market caps. Obviously it was news when the dropped to #2, but going back to #1 isn't.
Excuse me, but if anyone calls Samsung an "underdog", they need their head examined.
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Apple Board of Directors 'Concerned' About the Speed of Innovation?
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More precisely, Apple is the most valuable stock by market caps. Obviously it was news when the dropped to #2, but going back to #1 isn't.
Excuse me, but if anyone calls Samsung an "underdog", they need their head examined.
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I can solve this riddle.
Apple's problem is not a lack of innovation. Apple's problem is that it seems to have the resources and aptitude of a much, much smaller company than it is.
Take iOS 7 for example. It's been described as a Herculean effort, but a few independent software developers could have reskinned iOS to look like iOS 7.
Apple is no longer a company that can uniquely claim to save Christmas (remember Janie saving Christmas in 2002?).
Apple's main offering was reliable, high quality software. Apple had teams that could regularly put out new versions of iLife that were high quality software. I know that the board of directors wants Apple to keep coming out with what I call "fast-food computing" products, but chasing those fads has already run out of steam. It hasn't run out of revenue, but consumers are wanting something more for their empty lives that isn't there. They are already tapping away at tiny little screens buying in app purchases for extra lives. And they're bored and want something else. Consumerism is running on fumes.
Apple has been smart with its computers to go after the higher end market and not race to the bottom. And with their iOS devices they've done the same. But relative only to their past success with software, they are faltering. This idea of going after more fads and more "innovation" is wrong. They need to work on the Mac, work on software quality, and get a new direction in software design (the evolution of iPhoto and iMovie are examples of exactly what not to do). And they need to partner for web-services. Going after Maps was dumb. They are too blinded by their ego-pain.
Apple built some really beautiful, reliable, high quality software when it was going bankrupt and when it was making a lot less money than it is now. They lost their way when they thought the "app store revolution" was something more than it is. They let the market start dictating their direction. And they started making Mac software worse to make it more like iOS (I guess that's the explanation; either way, Mac software has gotten worse). I remember the days of Tiger and new iLife and iWork versions coming out. The Mac was at its peak then. Any version of iMovie 06 or below was amazing.
There are so many bugs in Mac OS X now that Apple ignores I'm thinking of starting a YouTube channel to show screencasts of all of them to try to get them to focus on them.
Sorry I'm rambling. This topic just brings up so many emotions in me because I see Apple making bad decisions and not "getting it."
Apple's problem is not a lack of innovation. Apple's problem is that it seems to have the resources and aptitude of a much, much smaller company than it is.
Take iOS 7 for example. It's been described as a Herculean effort, but a few independent software developers could have reskinned iOS to look like iOS 7.
Apple is no longer a company that can uniquely claim to save Christmas (remember Janie saving Christmas in 2002?).
Apple's main offering was reliable, high quality software. Apple had teams that could regularly put out new versions of iLife that were high quality software. I know that the board of directors wants Apple to keep coming out with what I call "fast-food computing" products, but chasing those fads has already run out of steam. It hasn't run out of revenue, but consumers are wanting something more for their empty lives that isn't there. They are already tapping away at tiny little screens buying in app purchases for extra lives. And they're bored and want something else. Consumerism is running on fumes.
Apple has been smart with its computers to go after the higher end market and not race to the bottom. And with their iOS devices they've done the same. But relative only to their past success with software, they are faltering. This idea of going after more fads and more "innovation" is wrong. They need to work on the Mac, work on software quality, and get a new direction in software design (the evolution of iPhoto and iMovie are examples of exactly what not to do). And they need to partner for web-services. Going after Maps was dumb. They are too blinded by their ego-pain.
Apple built some really beautiful, reliable, high quality software when it was going bankrupt and when it was making a lot less money than it is now. They lost their way when they thought the "app store revolution" was something more than it is. They let the market start dictating their direction. And they started making Mac software worse to make it more like iOS (I guess that's the explanation; either way, Mac software has gotten worse). I remember the days of Tiger and new iLife and iWork versions coming out. The Mac was at its peak then. Any version of iMovie 06 or below was amazing.
There are so many bugs in Mac OS X now that Apple ignores I'm thinking of starting a YouTube channel to show screencasts of all of them to try to get them to focus on them.
Sorry I'm rambling. This topic just brings up so many emotions in me because I see Apple making bad decisions and not "getting it."
even if there aren't new products in the pipeline, there is still a very slow momentum. it's not as exciting as it used to be. i don't get the announcing new OSX or IOS months and months early as by the time it comes out it's a big shrug. aside from the expected yearly iPhone update everything else is just slight increases that don't differentiate from the previous model. there is just a lack of excitement. they could do little innovative refreshes even to things like the iPod classic which would keep up a momentum.
I don't see how Timmy still has a job. To me it seems like Apple is trying to sabotage itself. The iPhone cannot even come close to competing with the competition. How would there not be screen size options by now? I work at a phone store and watch people go from iPhones to Android all day everyday. At this point there is no reason not to. Apple is Anti innovation right now. I would give Tim the boot ASAP. There are new Android innovations almost daily yet my iPhone looks the same as it did 5 years ago. I'm disgusted.
Why have a Board of Directors when we could just have your stamp of approval?
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Cook is coming up on his two year anniversary, maybe he has something up his sleeve? Jobs did the iPod, iPhone, iPad, it is nearing time for something new under Cooks reign. What surprises me in a way is the the next few years of Apple products were supposedly underway when Jobs passed away and there hasn't been anything out of the ordinary yet, but who knows, it may be coming.
Steve's dead. I'm very very sad he is but he is. If APPL were in the same state under Steve I would say the same. Personally though I think Steve would be driving positive change harder.
Another example would be IRadio vs spotify et al. Why has this taken so long ? Because apple needed to be sure they were getting a big enough margin ? Perhaps an innovative / aggressive company would have looked at the billions in the bank and just looked to buy a content provider outright rather than feeding it to shareholders !!
Why has icloud not been developed to compete directly with Dropbox ? I mean really what the hell are apple doing !! Dropbox should have been killed by software innovation YEARS ago !!!!
Problem for Apple now is that we don't life in a pre Apple world.
It would be like saying Wow Ford came out with a nice car for everyone and make a fortune.
XX years later, everyone else is making great cars, many better than Ford, and if Ford kept trying to just be Ford and keep their few models they will get swamped.
Apple NEVER get this point.
History going to repeat itself again?
You become the devices everyone owns by opening yourself up, offering large ranges of choice, so everyone can pick the model they want at the price point they want.
The problem is:
1: Apple never do this.
2: Apple fans don't want to feel common and everyone has one.
There could be an array or Tablets now, by year 5
There should be an array of desktop Mac computers to compete with PC, sand not a laptop on a stand hooked up to a large screen.
Apple can't really do a games console as they are known for low price, low graphics mobile gaming.
It's just what Apple does (or does not do)
Perhaps these people can see Apple falling for the 3rd time into the same hole they fell into twice before. Thinking it knows better even in defeat.
It would be like saying Wow Ford came out with a nice car for everyone and make a fortune.
XX years later, everyone else is making great cars, many better than Ford, and if Ford kept trying to just be Ford and keep their few models they will get swamped.
Apple NEVER get this point.
History going to repeat itself again?
You become the devices everyone owns by opening yourself up, offering large ranges of choice, so everyone can pick the model they want at the price point they want.
The problem is:
1: Apple never do this.
2: Apple fans don't want to feel common and everyone has one.
There could be an array or Tablets now, by year 5
There should be an array of desktop Mac computers to compete with PC, sand not a laptop on a stand hooked up to a large screen.
Apple can't really do a games console as they are known for low price, low graphics mobile gaming.
It's just what Apple does (or does not do)
Perhaps these people can see Apple falling for the 3rd time into the same hole they fell into twice before. Thinking it knows better even in defeat.
The first project is based on the Zeppelin, patented in Germany in 1895.
The second project makes every user a laughing stock.
And let me ask you, what if these projects were Apple projects? Would anyone in the world, and especially the stock market, give the slightest damn about them?
+1000
Innovation will come in waves and dips, no matter who is at the helm.
Every company wants that breakthrough product, few ever get it.
Apple has had numerous products that redefine the way we compute (MacBook Air), the way we listen to music (iPod), the way a phone works (iPhone) and the iPad.
They are and have been a market leader. Everything in a lab does not come to market. I'm sure they have plenty of innovations but having an innovation and making it cost effective are two different things.
If I had a crystal ball, I'd have the next breakthrough product.
I don't so I just sit and design chips.
Analysts and the press are idiots.
They rarely fully understand the technology they report on and think they have enough knowledge to pontificate how something isn't the way it should be.
Fox business news?
Apple stockholders who talk to them should shut up. If they ever did at all.
If it's on FOX, you can win a lot of games by betting it's not true.
Apple stockholders who talk to them should shut up. If they ever did at all.
If it's on FOX, you can win a lot of games by betting it's not true.
Yet Apple sold 31M iPhones in the quarter which was more than they sold in the year ago quarter. What other smartphone maker, besides Samsung, is selling 30M phones in a quarter? And what exactly are all these new daily Android innovations?
Well I for one buck the trend and actually find the next new Mac Pro to be very innovative, all that power in a system that size! I certainly want one.
As for share price, well whilst the iPad and iPhone are doing well, Apple have sat on their behinds in regards to innovating with them, other phones and tablets pack more power and better cameras etc. They also should have put a retina screen in the iPad Mini and more power from launch.
They also need to stop suing everybody, but as for innovation, no idea, smart watches won't take off for a couple of years yet at least and its a very traditional and tough market, they either have never made a TV or are not able to launch one that will compete. Everyone else is already doing anything suggested from Apple and that's the problem.
They need to promote the app store a hell of a lot more as that is still one of the best iOS assets and Think Different, the new Mac Pro shows they can still do that.
As for share price, well whilst the iPad and iPhone are doing well, Apple have sat on their behinds in regards to innovating with them, other phones and tablets pack more power and better cameras etc. They also should have put a retina screen in the iPad Mini and more power from launch.
They also need to stop suing everybody, but as for innovation, no idea, smart watches won't take off for a couple of years yet at least and its a very traditional and tough market, they either have never made a TV or are not able to launch one that will compete. Everyone else is already doing anything suggested from Apple and that's the problem.
They need to promote the app store a hell of a lot more as that is still one of the best iOS assets and Think Different, the new Mac Pro shows they can still do that.
At last. The elephant in the room has been sighted! 
I'm glad it's not just me thats been pushed to the back by the blinkered fanboys - who seem to think that innovation is a "new" OS. A "new" ipad. A "new" iphone. A "new" watch thingy. And a laptop with a really good battery. Oh. And a "new" iPhone too.
I can never tell if these people are being ironic. But then. That isn't de rigeur in this place is it?.. Nope. So they really DO think mini updates on old products is the "future".
Er. That'll be a no then.
I own all of the aforementioned products. And an iMac. And frankly, Im worried for Apples future. And whether what was once the market leader is going to be the market stall holder in a years time.
Autumn 2013 is sink of swim time for Apple.
Updates Ain't Innovation.
Tim' Cook-ed the books. Time for new blood.
Jony Ive - please, mate. You've got to help us!
Thanks
I'm glad it's not just me thats been pushed to the back by the blinkered fanboys - who seem to think that innovation is a "new" OS. A "new" ipad. A "new" iphone. A "new" watch thingy. And a laptop with a really good battery. Oh. And a "new" iPhone too.
I can never tell if these people are being ironic. But then. That isn't de rigeur in this place is it?.. Nope. So they really DO think mini updates on old products is the "future".
Er. That'll be a no then.
I own all of the aforementioned products. And an iMac. And frankly, Im worried for Apples future. And whether what was once the market leader is going to be the market stall holder in a years time.
Autumn 2013 is sink of swim time for Apple.
Updates Ain't Innovation.
Tim' Cook-ed the books. Time for new blood.
Jony Ive - please, mate. You've got to help us!
Thanks
That is a pointless argument.
Saying Apple outsells one model of Android phone is only a worthwhile thing to say if there was only 1 model or android phone to compete againt.
Like 20 companies making orange icecream and each ice cream company sells 50 orange icecreams
Apple makes their apple icecream and sells 60 of them
You say, wow, Apple sells the most, well yes, it sells 50, but then 20 other compaies are selling 50 each of the other flavour.
Sheesh it does not matter what ONE company sells more than Apple if there are 10 or more companies also selling high end Android mobiles.
Apple is innovating.
Instead of making a product to compete, they found a way to make other companies throw heaps of money into bullcrap products like smart watches.
And FYI, the best smart watch out there...
Instead of making a product to compete, they found a way to make other companies throw heaps of money into bullcrap products like smart watches.
And FYI, the best smart watch out there...