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Apple Building 2TB Solid State Drives for Next Mac Pro Release?

eagandale4114 said:
They are probably waiting for the 27 inch imac supply issues to clear out.
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I hope that you really meant to say "they are working on the 27" Imac supply issues first, before upgrading the standalone displays to use similar technology".

If Apple is passively waiting on broken supply chain issues to resolve themselves, you'll probably be able to buy AAPL for $300/share with your 15 April tax refund.
 
Hope they go with PCI-Express 2TB hard drives, Infiniband network interfaces, and rack mounts!
 
palmharbor said:
Given, Apple has decided that burning DVD's is passé. Why would anyone need two 2TB? Most people use their computer for email, internet, word processing and perhaps games...If you do not download and assemble mp4 or mov files to be burned or duplicate DVD's you don't need more than 500MB HD.
I would guess it will be so expensive, few people will be buying one.
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You obviously have no idea what professionals do with Mac Pros. A 500mb drive would be decent for my applications but then I need separate drives for everything else because I work with and create huge files. I'd rather use internals than daisy-chained externals. Nothing I create ever gets burned to a dvd because in my industry (A/V for shows and conventions), dvd players have been replaced by Macs serving HD digital movies straight off a hard drive. Another use for a MacPro, btw.
 
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AidenShaw said:
Just to point out the obvious - we've seen nothing to show that Apple is doing *anything* with the Mac Pro.

We have rumours about rumours, but nothing of substance.

And note the clever post a few back that pointed out that "Tim Cook didn't say a new Mac Pro in 2013 - he said 'something for Mac Pro users'".
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Well, you know, I'd be happy if this rumor turned out to be true.

Also this: "Apple has said a new Mac Pro should arrive sometime in 2013" negates this in a way: "Tim Cook didn't say a new Mac Pro in 2013 - he said 'something for Mac Pro users'".
 
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djsukebe said:
Forget the Mac Pros... where the hell is the update to the Thunderbolt display!?!? :apple::apple::apple:
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Yeah seriously...
Also, the iPod Classic doesn't have Lightning for some reason. It couldn't really benefit from it much, but it's a standard. Is the iPod Classic getting the axe?
 
12dylan34 said:
The Mac Pro isn't for the average man. It's for people and businesses that need intense computing power to bring in money.

a $10,000 Mac Pro isn't all that huge of an investment when your business is making $20,000 per 2-3 week job for broadcast motion graphics.

If it makes you feel better, I can't afford it just for myself either, though.
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Last year, the Studio I use to work for ok'ed the IT department to go out and purchase 4 new 12-Core MACPROs in one sitting. That was pocket change compared to the budget the project we were working on was. A $5,000 fully loaded MacPro wouldn't be a hip-cup at all. Bring it on.
 
Actually, no.

Fatalbert said:
Well, you know, I'd be happy if this rumor turned out to be true.

Also this: "Apple has said a new Mac Pro should arrive sometime in 2013" negates this in a way: "Tim Cook didn't say a new Mac Pro in 2013 - he said 'something for Mac Pro users'".
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Cook's message was "don’t worry as we’re working on something really great for later next year". (http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/06/12/tim_cook_confirms_updated_mac_pro_coming_in_2013/)

A little bit less than you believe, it seems.
 
Woo-hoo! Any news that suggests work on a [long awaited] updated to the Mac Pro line is great news. Cannot wait to see more rumors and news unfold as the year progresses.

I wonder if they would utilize models with non-Xeon based processors, for those who need a tower/upgradable system that the iMac doesn't fulfill. :)

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ellsworth said:
Last year, the Studio I use to work for ok'ed the IT department to go out and purchase 4 new 12-Core MACPROs in one sitting. That was pocket change compared to the budget the project we were working on was. A $5,000 fully loaded MacPro wouldn't be a hip-cup at all. Bring it on.
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This is a fact many forget when they state the "pro-market" is a niche market, as the consumer market is where to make bank. While certain aspects of this may be true, people forget that businesses have a lot of cash to upgrade their hardware and software licenses. It may not be billions in iDevices and MacBook Pro sales, but it certainly is a good market to re-tap. Apple's neglect of this segment is a major contributor as to why Apple pro-systems and displays are selling less, while Linux and Windows based systems are selling reasonably more.
 
palmharbor said:
Given, Apple has decided that burning DVD's is passé. Why would anyone need two 2TB? Most people use their computer for email, internet, word processing and perhaps games...If you do not download and assemble mp4 or mov files to be burned or duplicate DVD's you don't need more than 500MB HD.
I would guess it will be so expensive, few people will be buying one.
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rainydays said:
We are talking about a machine for professional content creation here, not the average joe e-mail machine.
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Well said. Yes, it isn't going to be "mainstream commodity" application and inexpensive. And it isn't unheard of for the devices for which this iron is for to essentially as support peripheral isn't a cheap P&S - - envision things like camera systems where but a single lens costs as much as an iMac...

That said, with consumers shooting HD movies and taking 24MP photos these days 2TB will fill up pretty quickly.
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Pretty quick indeed...particularly when one has 200GB worth of memory cards in your bag, so as to avoid running out before getting back to a computer to download. And before anyone starts suggesting "cloud" solutions, best to do the bandwidth calculations: even if we cut it down to a daily load of but 50GB, you're still looking at roughly 10 hours on a 15Mbps fiber/CATV connection ... or around 6 days on DSL.


-hh
 
jonnysods said:
Can't wait to see the price tag on a Mac Pro SSD.

HEY. Why are you guys reporting stories about Mac hardware rumours? Bit out of character isn't it?
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Using a rough Apple memory upgrade cost factor from the past, I would estimate that
a 2 TB Apple SSD would be three times as expensive as using 4, 500MB Samsung 840s
which will run you about $1,600 today at New Egg. So that would place the Apple 2 TB SSD at $4,800.
:apple:
 
Fatalbert said:
It's speculation based on what he DIDN'T say, that's all. And Apple supposedly said that a new Mac Pro would come in 2013, so I think it's safe for now.
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Why is Apple waiting until late 2013 to update the Mac Pro? Are the current Xeon processors slower than the i7?
 
wilhoitm said:
Why is Apple waiting until late 2013 to update the Mac Pro? Are the current Xeon processors slower than the i7?
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They were last updated in 2012, so yearly updates...

But the real problem is that they do not have and have never had fast parts for the price. However, you can't exactly compare the i7 to the Xeon only by clock speed since the Xeon has other advantages.

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ellsworth said:
Last year, the Studio I use to work for ok'ed the IT department to go out and purchase 4 new 12-Core MACPROs in one sitting. That was pocket change compared to the budget the project we were working on was. A $5,000 fully loaded MacPro wouldn't be a hip-cup at all. Bring it on.
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"Mac Pro"*
You can get old models that are fast for a good price used. An 8-core 2.8GHz Xeon (2 x 4 cores) Mac Pro was around $900 in late 2012. That's what I have. Totally worth it for my advanced consumer interests even though it was 4 years old, and I've had worse experiences with new iMacs. It cuts through video transcoding and has amazing expandability.
 
wilhoitm said:
Why is Apple waiting until late 2013 to update the Mac Pro?
Are the current Xeon processors slower than the i7?
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On a bang for buck basis, the base model gets crushed by
an i7 system that cost half as much.
That's why Apple won't build i7 systems and
why the Mac Pro hasn't had a meaningful update in so long.
As time passes the Mac Pro becomes an even worse value
on strictly a cost per performance calculation.
 
People hope for PCI-e storage. I tend to agree and hope for the next Mac Pro to be a giant PCI-e wall. Imagine something like the NeXTCube form factor, with the side wall covered with high bandwidth PCI-e slots :D

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Bubba Satori said:
On a bang for buck basis, the base model gets crushed by
an i7 system that cost half as much.
That's why Apple won't build i7 systems and
why the Mac Pro hasn't had a meaningful update in so long.
As time passes the Mac Pro becomes an even worse value
on strictly a cost per performance calculation.
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My MacPro gives me over 27 000 score on Geekbench, a pimped iMac peaks at 13 000. Less than half...

MacPro's are not bad on price/performance. The current generation Xeon workstations are...
 
Fatalbert said:
They were last updated in 2012, so yearly updates...

But the real problem is that they do not have and have never had fast parts for the price. However, you can't exactly compare the i7 to the Xeon only by clock speed since the Xeon has other advantages.

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"Mac Pro"*
You can get old models that are fast for a good price used. An 8-core 2.8GHz Xeon (2 x 4 cores) Mac Pro was around $900 in late 2012. That's what I have. Totally worth it for my advanced consumer interests even though it was 4 years old, and I've had worse experiences with new iMacs. It cuts through video transcoding and has amazing expandability.
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But even if you get a used one at a good price like $900 isn't the lack of PCI Express 3.0 a deal breaker? Will any of NVIDIA's new GPUs like the Geforce 680 or the new TITAN work in a PCI Express 2.0 Mac Pro?
 
Might not be as insanely priced as everyone is thinking. Micron is set to release the M500 1TB SSD for under $600!
 
Fatalbert said:
It's speculation based on what he DIDN'T say, that's all. And Apple supposedly said that a new Mac Pro would come in 2013, so I think it's safe for now.
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Link please. Most of this speculation is based on the Tim Cook email that I quoted, which to be generous was vague.

Please show us the apple.com press release saying that a new dual-socket Xeon Mac Pro is expected anytime in CY2013.

No link - it didn't happen.
 
AidenShaw said:
Link please. Most of this speculation is based on the Tim Cook email that I quoted, which to be generous was vague.

Please show us the apple.com press release saying that a new dual-socket Xeon Mac Pro is expected anytime in CY2013.

No link - it didn't happen.
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There were follow ups to the Tim Cook email by Apple themselves. An Apple spokesman told a Forbes (and NYtimes) reporter that a new Mac Pro is coming in 2013:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/connieg...pro-update-ticks-off-loyalist-andy-hertzfeld/
 
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