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There are no "Thunderbolt capabilities" in the Core i? processors, so why would it need to be added to the Xeons?

Or are you saying that Xeons should have integrated GPUs? (I think that I just threw up in my mouth a little....)

It was a colossal mistake to embed DisplayPort into the T-Bolt design. Now, at least, people should be realizing what a mistake that was.
Well there are LGA 1155 based "Xeon" processors with the Intel P4000.

Did we ever get any further on "data only" Thunderbolt or how to implement it on a system with expansion cards and no IGP? At least the controllers became smaller.
 
I think OWC announced a while back they will be releasing 3.5" SSDs up to 2TB in capacity. It will be interesting to see how their pricing compares to Apple's.
 
Well there are LGA 1155 based "Xeon" processors with the Intel P4000.

We both know that those are Core i? processors with the ECC disable disabled. ;)


Did we ever get any further on "data only" Thunderbolt or how to implement it on a system with expansion cards and no IGP? At least the controllers became smaller.

There doesn't seem to be any "data-only" approved solution. The best so far relies on an external cable to get the DP from the MoBo to the T-Bolt chip.

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This seems very "Apple-like" - an opportunity to sell another $49 dongle.

T-Bolt technology is still-born - I don't know how Intel let Jobs destroy it so completely.
 
I'm probably getting one, but I'm interested to see more details.

(That's as excited as I can get for my next Mac Pro, don't want to oversell it to myself)
 
Apple DID NOT say there was a new Mac Pro coming in 2013, Tim Cook said they would have SOMETHING for Mac Pro users in 2013.
 
This is a Mac rumor. What is it doing on a website about Jonathan Ives's credit card history, prank calls to Starbucks, White House petitions, Warren Buffett, slap bracelets, AT&T magazine ads, and Apple retail store photographs?
 
There are no "Thunderbolt capabilities" in the Core i? processors, so why would it need to be added to the Xeons?

I believe that the Thunderbolt support is missing because Intel has only release Core i processors supporting Thunderbolt- the Xeon chips simply do not support TB, at least that I know.
 
Two terabytes is fantastic, but how's the battery life?

Seriously, I do want a battery option in these. Using a DC battery built-in must be more efficient than having to hook it up to an AC UPS. Is it just where I live? Around here, you pretty much need a UPS if you're a pro user or even a consumer in some cases.


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can you imagine 4 of these in a RAID-0?

There is a YouTube video of 8 SSDs striped. It's ridiculous. Even with my two stripped HDDs, the performance is noticeably great.
 
Apple building the drives,only Apple selling the drives ?,new Mac Pro designed to only take these drives ?.
Been using Macs for a while now,never owned a PC, but it's depressing lately the way their product design has been heading.

The article distinctly says that they will have a standard interface.
But I agree that with the iMac and the retina laptops being almost 100% locked down, its not a good direction.
 
I believe that the Thunderbolt support is missing because Intel has only release Core i processors supporting Thunderbolt- the Xeon chips simply do not support TB, at least that I know.

No Intel processor or chipset has native T-Bolt support.

All require separate, discrete T-Bolt controllers.

If you don't believe me, please link to the datasheets for Intel CPU/chipset combinations with native T-Bolt support.

The issue is that due to the colossal mistake of requiring DisplayPort in T-Bolt, only systems with integrated graphics (or mobile-like systems with discrete graphics on the motherboard) can easily route the DisplayPort traces to the discrete T-Bolt chips.

A workstation with a kick-ass GPGPU card with 1536 CUDA cores doesn't have a easy way to support T-Bolt.
 
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Hopefully Apple are planning on using the Mac Pro as a flagship model to showcase where things can go over the next few years. It's the big expensive models that allow for development and early mass production of things like massive SSD's.
 
A 2TB SSD seems useless to me, but I'm just glad Apple is doing something with the Mac Pro besides tossing it. The banishment from Europe is not a good sign.
 
Given, Apple has decided that burning DVD's is passé. Why would anyone need two 2TB? Most people use their computer for email, internet, word processing and perhaps games...

We are talking about a machine for professional content creation here, not the average joe e-mail machine.

That said, with consumers shooting HD movies and taking 24MP photos these days 2TB will fill up pretty quickly.
 
We are talking about a machine for professional content creation here, not the average joe e-mail machine.

That said, with consumers shooting HD movies and taking 24MP photos these days 2TB will fill up pretty quickly.

If you're using 2TB SSD drives for storage... you're doing it wrong :D
 
We both know that those are Core i? processors with the ECC disable disabled. ;)




There doesn't seem to be any "data-only" approved solution. The best so far relies on an external cable to get the DP from the MoBo to the T-Bolt chip.


This seems very "Apple-like" - an opportunity to sell another $49 dongle.

T-Bolt technology is still-born - I don't know how Intel let Jobs destroy it so completely.
Eh, that work around was just to add the port to Thunderbolt "capable" motherboards without assuming the upfront cost of the controller and the installation on the board itself. We both know it's just a passthrough that screams 80/90s.

The board already has a special connector to PCIe x4 card via the system specific cable. Did they ever sell any of these boards and cards?
 
Ok, rumor mill.....

here we go....this development can be a huge feat. Hope we can see it in the real world, but, still in this theme, I would like to see, among these rumored 2 TB flash, the following:

a)-Supported 128 GB RAM or more
b)-Better graphics card support/options
c) Of course, state of the art I/O options (TB and USB 3.0)
d) Next generation or substantially improved CPUs

Not necessarily in this order.....:D

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A 2TB SSD seems useless to me, but I'm just glad Apple is doing something with the Mac Pro besides tossing it. The banishment from Europe is not a good sign.

Just to point out the obvious - we've seen nothing to show that Apple is doing *anything* with the Mac Pro.

We have rumours about rumours, but nothing of substance.

And note the clever post a few back that pointed out that "Tim Cook didn't say a new Mac Pro in 2013 - he said 'something for Mac Pro users'".

That's a scary thought, since "Mac Pro Users" range from scientific/video/audio professionals who need every bit of CPU power, disk bandwidth and network bandwidth that they can get, to willy wavers who only buy the Mac Pro because it's more expensive than an Imac (even though their main apps are Facebook, Twitter and GMail).

Tim is hoping that we'll believe that Apple will be addressing the former group....
 
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