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Many of the breakthroughs you list resulted from initiatives under Jobs. As for USB-C 3.1, that's not really an Apple breakthrough, and I would hardly call the MacBook a breakthrough when you can't even charge it and simultaneously use a USB peripheral without a $60 adapter.
The point about USB-C is that Apple was pushing hard inside the USB consortium for a version of USB that included all the multiple protocols that are possible with USB-C.
 
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I'm still not entirely sure what this facility is gonna do. Is it a college for Apple engineering? If so that's pretty awesome. Or is it something else?

Also makes me wonder what the real-estate market is doing for the houses around the area. I have a feeling it's down now during construction, but after it'll go way up.
It is the US answer to CERN where Apple hopes to find the Jobs Boson Particle. :) :)
 
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They could invest in their products. They could invest in moving more production back to the US, which would provide thousands of good permanent jobs. Hell, they could invest in producing their stupid car in the US instead of outsourcing its production.

Here's the deal, nobody would care about their expensive HQ if they remained innovative or at least showed proper attention to their core products. But as long as their products suggest a severe lack of focus then people are going to wonder about the wisdom of an overpriced HQ. It's like a couple who can't hold jobs or manage their bills suddenly deciding to have children. Sure, it's their right, but it's a questionable decision nevertheless.

You have NO knowledge about how much they invest into their product lines. Just because you are impatient doesn't mean they are not working on something.
Apple has a certain way of doing things and if that is not what you like leave their product lines.

Most of their product lines (same for other manufacturers) are matured to a point where we will not see "innovation" in great scale.

For all we know whatever they are working on may not even b e for you and me. For example at this point I can't see an Apple watch in my future.

You have NO idea if they will produce a car and if they do where it will be produced.

To connect the headquarter with product focus and people caring about that is really a far fetched stretch to be negative. Their products are being bought, so maybe they suggest "being excellent" instead of lacking focus.

As for overpriced HQ : You have NO idea what it actually costs and you have NO idea how much money they will or will not be saving over the long run. Chances are they will save by terminating leases and owning their office space.

You also need to read up a little on production location issues. USA has nowhere, NOWHERE, nowhere:

Did I mention NOWHERE, the amount of engineers and labor force in one place as they can get in China.
The raw material is also not in this country and owning a factory with changing product lines is not smart.

Imagine you open up a factory with 10,000 people making I phones (Put in whatever number you want)
You make 20 million iPhones. Product cycle ends, you make 5 million, 2 million etc. and 10,000 people have no jobs.

Now they all were concentrated and had to live in an area close to the factory.
What now brown cow?

Then their are US labor laws, environmental laws, minimum wages , health care etc.etc. to pay.
The administration needed to keep a factory running is expensive.

Instead, any manufacturer can just place an order for a product and when they have no more orders, there is nothing to worry about.

Thats only mentioning a few things.
And just if you want to go with rah, rah , rah America is the greatest and deserves everything first or the best,
please recognize there are deserving and smart and creative people everywhere.
It is just good business to be present worldwide.

You have compiled a lot of negative drivel with non knowledge and as far as I am concerned you certainly do not think like an entrepreneur or are producing anything!

Linking speculative non factual things together that don't belong together just to be negative?
 
Looks like a Space Bridge. I imagine a flood of Decepticons will be streaming through any day now. I, for one, welcome our new metallic overlords.
 
Incredible! Just incredible!

This is going to be one stunning piece of architecture. Amazing use of money, not waste!!!

Sometimes I'm amazed what I read here.

Apple went from a tiny company teetering on the abyss to the world's most profitable corporation, and along the way they transformed everyday tech into something many wouldn't have thought possible in the 90s.

They did it all from the current HQ.

So while I agree it is a stunning piece of architecture, I'm also sort of thinking the HQ may amount to no more than expensive bling. I'd bet good money that Apple will influence the tech world less from this ring of bling than they did from the boring buildings of the original HQ.
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The point about USB-C is that Apple was pushing hard inside the USB consortium for a version of USB that included all the multiple protocols that are possible with USB-C.

Big deal. I'll give them credit once they intelligently update their Mac lineup to USB-C (meaning at least two USB-C ports). It would also be a great upgrade from Lightning.
 
Thousands of trees, a pond...I wonder if they're going to bring in (non-winged) wildlife such as bunnies. Since, I don't see any other way for them to get inside the ring on their own. Yeah, these are the things I think about.
 
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Please let there be a "Modern Marvels" style documentary on the construction of this facility. It fascinates me.
 
2r/2πr = 1/π, right?

I'm simply saying that if you start at a point in a circle and walk to the left, you need not go more than 50% of the way around to reach your destination. If your destination is more than 50% of the way around, you should have gone to the right instead to make it less than 50%.

But that's still too long - go to the center, which is 1 radius, and then to where you want to go, another 1 radius = 2 radius = 1 diameter.

And 1 diameter is about 1/3 of the circle circumference.

So, if the circle is 1 mile long, then the most you need to travel is about 1/3 mile in the worst case.
 
Gotta admit, that would be a pretty cool building to work in. I don't think I'd much enjoy working for Apple, though...
 
Serious question: How do you get from one side (or extremity) of the building to the other in a reasonable amount of time? Do they have circular, horizontal elevators?
 
I'm simply saying that if you start at a point in a circle and walk to the left, you need not go more than 50% of the way around to reach your destination. If your destination is more than 50% of the way around, you should have gone to the right instead to make it less than 50%.

But that's still too long - go to the center, which is 1 radius, and then to where you want to go, another 1 radius = 2 radius = 1 diameter.

And 1 diameter is about 1/3 of the circle circumference.

So, if the circle is 1 mile long, then the most you need to travel is about 1/3 mile in the worst case.
Exactly. The diameter is 1/pi of the circle circumference.
 
They could still offer the latest silicon from AMD and Intel, or even better, offer a choice of either AMD or Nvidia. The MP is supposedly about GPGPU so why do they sell it with 3 year old GPUs? Granted, Moore's law is no longer in effect and new silicon features smaller and less frequent advances, but 15% is 15%. That used to be enough for a silent update.

The iMac is current and Mac users are generally satisfied with it.
Maybe Apple are forcing people to be environmentally friendly and not keep upgrading for the sake of it? ;) Whenever the reports of a new Cinema Display with built in GPU do the rounds people complain about buying a display with a GPU that can't be upgraded, but assuming the GPU is designed to power the panel in the display, it will never require upgrading. No one complains that their 1080P display can't be upgraded to 4K...
 
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I'm simply saying that if you start at a point in a circle and walk to the left, you need not go more than 50% of the way around to reach your destination. If your destination is more than 50% of the way around, you should have gone to the right instead to make it less than 50%.

But that's still too long - go to the center, which is 1 radius, and then to where you want to go, another 1 radius = 2 radius = 1 diameter.

And 1 diameter is about 1/3 of the circle circumference.

So, if the circle is 1 mile long, then the most you need to travel is about 1/3 mile in the worst case.

They will offer bikes to get around. Shouldn't be an issue.
 
I'm simply saying that if you start at a point in a circle and walk to the left, you need not go more than 50% of the way around to reach your destination. If your destination is more than 50% of the way around, you should have gone to the right instead to make it less than 50%.

But that's still too long - go to the center, which is 1 radius, and then to where you want to go, another 1 radius = 2 radius = 1 diameter.

And 1 diameter is about 1/3 of the circle circumference.

So, if the circle is 1 mile long, then the most you need to travel is about 1/3 mile in the worst case.

Mathematically perhaps, but not practically. First this calculation works potentially for trips involving the ground floor only. It also assumes that entries are a located everywhere on the ground floor, which of course they are not. Add floors above ground level, which this building has, and the decision on how to route a trip becomes substantially more complex. Add to this, the building will look fundamentally the same from every view angle. This will produce a great deal of disorientation to the decision making process on how to best get from there to here.
 
Apple went from a tiny company teetering on the abyss to the world's most profitable corporation, and along the way they transformed everyday tech into something many wouldn't have thought possible in the 90s.

They did it all from the current HQ.

So while I agree it is a stunning piece of architecture, I'm also sort of thinking the HQ may amount to no more than expensive bling. I'd bet good money that Apple will influence the tech world less from this ring of bling than they did from the boring buildings of the original HQ.
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Big deal. I'll give them credit once they intelligently update their Mac lineup to USB-C (meaning at least two USB-C ports). It would also be a great upgrade from Lightning.

And with many other large office buildings/complexes scattered throughout the SF Bay Area. And beyond.

Going back just 11 years, Apple had 14.8K employees. Today they have 120K, with roughly half in retail.

Unless you have inside information about Apples current situation and especially their plans for the future, I don't understand how you can even remotely judge what Apple's facilities needs are.
 
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Mathematically perhaps, but not practically. First this calculation works potentially for trips involving the ground floor only. It also assumes that entries are a located everywhere on the ground floor, which of course they are not. Add floors above ground level, which this building has, and the decision on how to route a trip becomes substantially more complex. Add to this, the building will look fundamentally the same from every view angle. This will produce a great deal of disorientation to the decision making process on how to best get from there to here.
Hahaha, wow. Hell of a job you're doing in this thread, please keep going! I've had some good laughs at your analysis presented so far.
 
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Maybe Apple are forcing people to be environmentally friendly and not keep upgrading for the sake of it? ;) Whenever the reports of a new Cinema Display with built in GPU do the rounds people complain about buying a display with a GPU that can't be upgraded, but assuming the GPU is designed to power the panel in the display, it will never require upgrading. No one complains that their 1080P display can't be upgraded to 4K...

Those are some impressive mental acrobatics you use to excuse Apple's lack of recent Mac hardware upgrades.
 
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