McGiord
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I just hope they change the way cars are marketed and sold, getting rid of the dealers would be a dream come true.
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Apple Car Development Speeds Up, 2019 Launch Date Targeted
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Take this with a huge grain of salt. Apple may be working on a car project but producing a working vehicle is a whole other thing.
The WSJ has been known to be anti-Tesla and has delivered "well timed" news to cause TSLA to tank with no real basis. This happened this morning actually while TSLA was trading as high as 271 and after this piece was released, the stock tanked to 256.
Full disclosure, I am currently holding a long position in TSLA and I do trade shares of AAPL.
The WSJ has been known to be anti-Tesla and has delivered "well timed" news to cause TSLA to tank with no real basis. This happened this morning actually while TSLA was trading as high as 271 and after this piece was released, the stock tanked to 256.
Full disclosure, I am currently holding a long position in TSLA and I do trade shares of AAPL.
Analog Kid
macrumors G3
I'm finding it hard to believe that Apple is going to manufacture automobiles. It would certainly be a bet-the-company move.
While I agree electric cars have a smaller carbon footprint, the difference at this point in time is not large enough for there to be a clear winner.
I would say if you look at the full spectrum from getting the fuel to using it, the difference between an electric vehicle and gasoline vehicle is about 10% - 20%.
We will only see a big jump in overall efficiency once we see things like the Gigafactory come into play.
Apple does not enter market unless they think they can change it. Apple will finally solve charging station availability and have electric car somewhat reasonably priced due to economies of scale. And with expected from Apple well integrated car electronics and actually working voice controls, I will be probably buying it.
szw-mapple fan
macrumors 68040
Not true. Even if your car runs on 100% coal powered electricity, you will still only emit less than half the amount by a gas engine, due to the high efficiency of power generation at power plants compared with car engines.
mdriftmeyer
macrumors 68040
Enough with the Carbon:
This has been thoroughly tested and certified by the DoE.
http://www.afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/electric_emissions.php
A true Hybrid has the lowest emissions footprint presently. When the backbone goes clean then this chart will change.
This has been thoroughly tested and certified by the DoE.
http://www.afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/electric_emissions.php
A true Hybrid has the lowest emissions footprint presently. When the backbone goes clean then this chart will change.
If Porche can get this working, I hope Apple can bring it to the masses. Sweet concept car!
Many car companies "brains" are the same already. They just customize and train them differently. Having a common source for something like automated driving systems and data wold actually be better than many different systems.
Denmac1
macrumors 6502a
Forgot the Burberry interior. Also Apple will sell a solar panel installation for charging due to the discount they received from buying so many for their farms.
Denmac1
macrumors 6502a
Apple doesn't manufacture anything. This will be a sourced commodity under their stringent quality control (snicker...didi I say that?)
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Denmac1
macrumors 6502a
Me: Siri, make a right turn at the next intersection.
Siri: I'm sorry, I can't connect to the internet right now.
And the following crash is inevitable.
just like energy consumed to make solar panels defeats the environmental impact it offers.
Although the idea is as more panels are produced and more turbines, that manufacturing those equipment will run off clean energy to produce it.
Hopefully we can recycle all the old stuff
lincolntran
macrumors 6502a
tennisproha
macrumors 68020
I'm skeptical of this. I think this could be something more to do with a significant overhaul of Maps than a production consumer car.
Apple is a computer company. Every product it's released to date has been a reiteration of the computer in different form factors. The car as we know it now is simply not the same thing.
Apple is a computer company. Every product it's released to date has been a reiteration of the computer in different form factors. The car as we know it now is simply not the same thing.
tennisproha
macrumors 68020
Less than 50 miles more is hardly 'leap frogs'. And its only a concept which means probably wont ever go into production.
I'm also very skeptical, but the electric car industry is still very nascent and there is room for someone like Apple to get in. If I were at Apple I would continue to focus on the TV project and experiment with VR; an automobile doesn't really seem profitable.
I'm also very uncertain that electric cars will be popular in the medium turn. With low gas prices and improvements in hybrid tech, it's not worth the price of the tech. In two years most hybrids will have the 55+mpg standard already found in some cars today.
1st paragraph of this article:
http://endeavors.unc.edu/more_processors_more_problems
halfway down this article.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/ford-mercedes-set-up-shop-in-silicon-valley-1427475558
At least 100 processors. Millions of lines of code. But, according to an automotive engineer I've talked with, these numbers are undercounts, as many more of the microprocessors are hidden in 3rd party parts/components used by the auto manufacturers. Every door, seat and wheel may have several.
tennisproha
macrumors 68020
If they are thinking of getting in that market they would def need to be thinking outside the box. reinventing the wheel with electric so to speak.
I'm actually very positive on electric cars. I think in the near term we'll start seeing a bigger adoption. EV is a no-brainer on so many levels. the prices will start to come down with economics. people forget oil is in fact a finite resource. and we'll run out of it within the next 100 years.
No, we need to make as many cars as possible electric. Then, when we sort out the power stations we won't have a ton of cars still spewing out carbon.
Not sure about the metality of car manufacturers...but there may be a good chance that as soon as apple brings it's own car to the market, other makers could slam the door to any cooperation (especially carplay)...just a thought....
oldmacs
macrumors 603
How about they get iOS 9 working properly first?
Should be faster than iOS 8 on all devices, given how little in the way of new features/power sapping features there are .
I can see it now. Car OS 2 will be released with the Apple Car 2, regardless of Car OS 2 being ready - Oh its ok if some people's engines stop running or breaks stop working due to bugs.
Should be faster than iOS 8 on all devices, given how little in the way of new features/power sapping features there are .
I can see it now. Car OS 2 will be released with the Apple Car 2, regardless of Car OS 2 being ready - Oh its ok if some people's engines stop running or breaks stop working due to bugs.
