The BMW iX is going to be worth almost nothing few years down the line while the Tesla will retain a large amount of its original price.
I would wait for the Tesla.
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I would wait for the Tesla.
lol... Keep dreaming. Apple's car will be 3rd rate compared to Tesla. How are they going to use their "custom design" marketing when the suppliers are all inferior to Tesla?
Who is going to make the octovalve for Apple? Who is going to use the gigapresses? Who is going to make a battery comparable to the 4680 cells?
Apple's business model only works when the suppliers are separate entities from the OEMs so that they can buy the best technology in the market. Their business model doesn't work when the one with the best technology is its own supplier and has no plans to be a 3rd party supplier.
I always love it when people run down the shortcomings of an unannounced product that doesn't exist. LOL
First of all, the person who dreamed up that concept car image is really bad at it. That looks like Jony Ive pooped his drawers, looked at the mess, and designed a car to look like it. Second, if I want a personal computer I’ll go with a company like Apple that has been building them for 40+ years. If I want an automobile, I’ll go with a company that has been building them for many, many decades, not an electronics company that has NEVER built one!
Gawd, I hope the tires aren't Apple spec tires. If I get that car, the first thing I'd do is change out the tires for something with real treads. I ain't a fan of hydroplaning.
I wouldn't mind those tires on a dry race track though; looks grippy on dry pavement.
I wouldn't mind those tires on a dry race track though; looks grippy on dry pavement.
I have a Chevy Bolt EV. Have had it now for 3 years and really like it. But if I had to do it over again I would have bought a Tesla. To me, the big advantage of the Tesla is the charging network and much faster charge time. What it takes me to charge at a level 3 charger in 45 minutes, Tesla can get in less than 15 minutes. Also with non Tesla super chargers, there are a number of companies out there, and each one with it's own account and method of paying. Often you spend 10 minutes trying to get the charger paid for and going, or at times you drive to a charger only to find it's out of service. With Tesla, you just plug in and charge, the charger reads your car and your account is charged. No need to fumble around with apps or cards.
I hope they use another brand at least. Seeing the apple logo on the car looks kinda strange.
Make sure you sign up AppleCareCar with the purchase.
Make sure you sign up AppleCareCar with the purchase.
Do you think that a lot of news articles get published when "X engineers hired for unknown Apple project"?If the price is right I’ll be the first one to get it with my Apple Card.
Where? Do you know know high-level engineers personally that have been working on the Apple car?
You can’t compare phone industry to the auto industry. They don’t even go together. The auto-industry has been out in this world for over 100+ years.
You forced me to do another Google search and this is what came up 🤥
Three more 'Apple Car' engineers leave for aviation startups | AppleInsider
Following the departure of a senior director of engineering, three more "Apple Car" engineers have left to pursue similar positions at air taxi-focused startups.appleinsider.com
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Magna is the most well known contract manufacturer in the automotive business. They have built a lot of specialty cars for the major manufacturers.
Magna claims it can boost EV range 30%, with software and controls a big part of it
Supplier says it can unlock more miles per charge with its own software; will it debut on the Ocean or the I-Pace?
It looks like EA has plans to add a lot more stations across the northern US and southern CA.
"Electrify America Announces its “Boost Plan” to More than Double its Current EV Charging Network by End of 2025"
Japanese = shoddy manufacturing?
Tesla = quality?
Yet somehow Tesla is 27 out of 28 and there are a whole lot of Japanese brands at the top.
Consumer Reports: Lexus Makes the Most Reliable Cars; Lincoln the Least - Kelley Blue Book
Consumer Reports reliability scores for 2021 are in. Asian brands dominated the top ten, and cars proved more reliable than SUVs.
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You are posting a lot and sounding a little desperate to portray Tesla as the perfect manufacturer and everyone else as crap. Why is that?
Oh, I see. You have $10M in Tesla stock and we should believe you are an unbiased commenter.
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I'm of a couple different minds on the Apple Car.
On the one hand, I'm all for additional competition. I hate (particularly artificial) monopolies. As a matter of principle as well as from the practicality of experience, I am against any company mergers, especially if we're talking about major corporations.
On the other hand, I'm not convinced Apple should really be in the auto market. I'll quote from Star Trek VI: “Just because we can do a thing, it does not necessarily follow that we should do that thing.”
On the one hand, I'm all for additional competition. I hate (particularly artificial) monopolies. As a matter of principle as well as from the practicality of experience, I am against any company mergers, especially if we're talking about major corporations.
On the other hand, I'm not convinced Apple should really be in the auto market. I'll quote from Star Trek VI: “Just because we can do a thing, it does not necessarily follow that we should do that thing.”
This concept by Vanarama looks very cool, I appreciate the higher ground clearance and what looks like the perfect amount of body panel use, specially around the front bumper, looks great!
There are some hardcore Tesla fan-people in this thread. Tesla will likely become a Porsche-type specialty brand. Everyone is switching to EVs and there is no way Tesla will remain dominant. Already Porsche Taycan, Ford Mach-E, GM, Audi, Mercedes, Hyundai, et al are making EVs that rival or beat Tesla.
It appears Elon Musk is alright with other competing manufacturers because Tesla is opening its charging network to non-Tesla EV vehicles.
It appears Elon Musk is alright with other competing manufacturers because Tesla is opening its charging network to non-Tesla EV vehicles.
Tesla and quality ?
Man blows up his Tesla rather than paying $22K to repair it | CNN
What would make a driver mad enough to dynamite his own Tesla? How about a $22,600 repair bill. CNN's Jeanne Moos has the explosive report.
Germans - Diesel-gateTesla and quality ?
Japanese - Takata exploding airbags
GM - Exploding bolts
Ford - Numerous quality defects stated in my previous post
I will wait for the Pro Max version and monthly updates to patch issues with steering and throttling.
Go home Apple, you're drunk.
Go home Apple, you're drunk.
What is range with a reasonable tow for the Cybertruck? It won't be 500 miles..... 30+ minute stops to charge (after waiting in line for the chargers - which WILL be an issue) every 150 miles will get old fast.
Can you replace the bed on the Cybertruck? Just accessing the front of the bed without having to climb over the contents in the rest of the bed is annoying enough. The design was not created by someone who uses a truck like one. The design is not as useful as, say, the Ford F150 EV.
It's being pushed by government. Things like this:
California will ban new combustion-engine vehicles starting in 2035
The state is a standard bearer in clean air regulation
www.theverge.com
That isn't the market pushing it.
I mostly do too, but I'd expect there to be $10,000 tires and $1500 windshield wiper blades for those in the know.