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It also has a $450 annual fee.

When you really compare everything, the Apple Card is competitive.

All cards have pros and cons which depend on individuals.

The Reserve has a $450 annual fee, the Preferred is only $95. All cards may have pros and cons, but the CSP blows the Apple Card completely away when talking about using them for foreign travel.
 
I tend to stay away from all CCs... lmao my score went from 800 a few years ago and is now zero.

I have everything paid off except my home and will never borrow money or get a car loan ever again
If you have a mortgage on your home, trust me you’re still scoring but lack of other Trade lines means there’s no movement and your scores are stagnant. Good for now but bad if you have to ever fall back on applying for credit again
 
A couple of things I noticed about the card in the Wallet app. There is an etched parallax effect to it that changes as your phone moves. Pretty cool. Also, the card starts out completely white, but as you begin using the card it changes color. Currently it has some yellow tones on it, with just some small charges. My guess is the colors will become darker the more charges you ring up? We’ll see. Still, a pretty novel approach.

Classic lab experiment tactics being put to use on Apple fans. Create a perceived exclusivity frenzy about acquiring the card then encourage heavy use of the card by “rewarding” card holders with “cool” colour changes to the card in wallet. Leading of course in many cases to card balances which users cannot afford to pay off fully before the vicious cycle of interest charges commences.

Got to give Apple credit for its ability to get people to willingly gulp the koolaid.
 
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These limits suck.

Looks like others making six figures with scores in the 800+ range are all still getting $6,500-$8,000 mostly.

My two primary cards both have $40k limits. I’ve had a few vacations where $6,500 wouldn’t come close to covering us.

Anyone get a $15k+ limit?

I don’t think they’re too far out of line with where other cards start out when most people first get them. I’ve got a score in the 800s and a combined limit of almost $100k across four credit cards, but they’ve only gotten that high from both automatic and periodic requests for increased limits. My Citi Double Cash card originally started out as a Citi Dividend student credit card account over ten years ago and it only had a 1k limit. Now it’s got a 25k limit. My more recent cards I got when I already had a decent score started out in the upper 4 and lower 5-digit limits.
 
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Just a correction, it’s not the end of the month, it’s paying in full before your billing cycle closes and your new monthly statement generates

Precisely, this card isn’t a bad card at all. Just lay in full when bill is due and continue to enjoy cash back on purchases.
 
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Put it this way; these limits won’t even support buying the lowest end Mac Pro + new 6k display.

May take the soft pull just to see the limit; and hard pull only if I like what I see.
 
Just a correction, it’s not the end of the month, it’s paying in full before your billing cycle closes and your new monthly statement generates

That’s not true either. If you pay at least the statement balance in full by the due date, you fall into what’s referred to as the grace period and you won’t be charged interest then either. A penny less than the statement balance and you lose your grace period and start getting charged interest.
 
I don’t think they’re too far out of line with where other cards start out when most people first get them. I’ve got a score in the 800s and a combined limit of almost $100k across four credit cards, but they’ve only gotten that high from both automatic and periodic requests for increased limits. My Citi Double Cash card original started out as a Citi Dividend student credit card account over ten years ago and it only had a 1k limit. Now it’s got a 25k limit. My more recent cards I got when I already had a decent score started out in the upper 4 and lower 5-digit limits.

Fico 861

Approved $20k / 12.9%

Also use Citi Doublecash and it’s at $35k / 13.24%
 
I don’t think they’re too far out of line with where other cards start out when most people first get them. I’ve got a score in the 800s and a combined limit of almost $100k across four credit cards, but they’ve only gotten that high from both automatic and periodic requests for increased limits. My Citi Double Cash card originally started out as a Citi Dividend student credit card account over ten years ago and it only had a 1k limit. Now it’s got a 25k limit. My more recent cards I got when I already had a decent score started out in the upper 4 and lower 5-digit limits.


I said "screw it" and figured I'd eat the soft pull and just look at what they offered: $20 SL @ 12.99

I can be okay with that, so I accepted and took the hard pull; physical card should be here in 4-6 days.

$100K+ income, 800+ CS, ~$100K in open avail. credit across three cards. <10% utilization.
 
Classic lab experiment tactics being put to use on Apple fans. Create a perceived exclusivity frenzy about acquiring the card then encourage heavy use of the card by “rewarding” card holders with “cool” colour changes to the card in wallet. Leading of course in many cases to card balances which users cannot afford to pay off fully before the vicious cycle of interest charges commences.

Got to give Apple credit for its ability to get people to willingly gulp the koolaid.
I think sort of the opposite. It seems like they’re really giving the user a lot of tools to see where their money is going and to encourage them to pay it off. Having your card turn red if you’re approaching your credit limit is cool and good for the user at the same time.
 
I said "screw it" and figured I'd eat the soft pull and just look at what they offered: $20 SL @ 12.99

I can be okay with that, so I accepted and took the hard pull; physical card should be here in 4-6 days.

$100K+ income, 800+ CS, ~$100K in open avail. credit across three cards. <10% utilization.

I’d apply if I thought I had any use at all for this card. With an Amex Blue Cash Preferred, Citi Double Cash, Chase Freedom, and Discover It, I’ve got every one of my required bases covered. The only tangible benefit would be the extra 1% on Apple purchases compared to my DC, but my Apple purchases are very infrequent. My iPhone is purchased on a wireless plan and I only buy a new notebook every four years at the earliest.

Plus I couldn’t even connect it to Mint, which is an enormous drawback for those who diligently track their finances.
 
I had a 760 credit score and my application was denied. They sent me an email with my credit score. Can’t figure out why I was denied.
 
Not even going to be enough for all the products that will be hitting us in September. iPhone, Apple Watch, new MBP, Mac Pro, 6k monitor...

Lol I know right. But I’m sure with their spending. They’ll get limit increases quickly.
 
These limits suck.

Looks like others making six figures with scores in the 800+ range are all still getting $6,500-$8,000 mostly.

My two primary cards both have $40k limits. I’ve had a few vacations where $6,500 wouldn’t come close to covering us.

Anyone get a $15k+ limit?

Limits do seem a bit low, I got 20k, lowest interest rate. Have seen 4 or 5 with 40k limit. Overall I think its pretty in line with other cards, a lot goes into this that changes for everyone of us.
 
Where is everyone finding their credit score? I signed up yesterday and I didn't see mine anywhere
It gave you the option to view the report with your score they used after you were accepted. Unless you just clicked away and missed it.
 
Apple Pay uses a substitute PAN number in place of your real credit card number (a token). This is what gets stored to your iPhone when you add a credit card. It also uses a one-time security code making each transaction unique. The token on your device remains the same, only the security code is changed. So it functions like a rolling credit card number. Samsung Pay and Android Pay also use the same system.

The main difference is now it will generate an actual 16 digit card number, expiry date and CVV number you can type into an online credit card form to make a payment. It's taking Apple Pay one step further by allowing you to use virtual numbers exactly like a physical card for places that don't accept Apple Pay.




Which system are you talking about exactly? HCE (host card emulation)? Or something else?
Well, i don't know how it is implemented but in my country there has been a service run by the company that does card transactions and ATM operations (it's a joint company owned by several banks) where among other features you can generate card numbers for single or repeated use (for a single seller, if you intend to always buy let's say Amazon or Uber)
It isn't meant only for internet security, a lot of people don't own credit cards (and when it started even more) but do own debit cards so you can have credit card numbers for online purchasing.
Even myself have the card set to pay 100% at the end of each month so I really don't buy anything on credit.
 
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