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Carplay is whatever. If you've ever been in a car with a good infotainment system like a Tesla, or Polestar. Carplay is a luxury. Of course if you drive crap cars you'd want it
I’m confused what you’re trying to say. Maybe some better punctuation would help.

CarPlay is whatever if you’ve ever been in a car with a good infotainment system?

If you’ve ever been in a car with a good infotainment system […] CarPlay is a luxury?

CarPlay is a luxury if you drive crap cars?
 
I will never get another Tesla. Miserable experience by itself, and even worse without CarPlay. Even though my Tesla is only three years old I've started looking at other cars (usually my cars last me 15 years or more). CarPlay is now a requirement for me.
Good luck

Teslas are so good, CarPlay isn't enough to get people to look at other brands
 
Carplay is great because you aren't stuck at the wims of automakers for updating it (without making you take it in and/or charging you for it). I woould have 0 issue using the built in car infotainment system if it wasn't total ass and barely supported). Apple/Google update their carplay/android auto all of the time. Can't say that about car manufacturers.
 
Pretty funny that Apple’s largest, publicly known at least, open standard is the thing that induces the most Apple-like behavior from other companies. Every geek friend I have, but also family member that’s aware of Apple products thinks CarPlay is a requirement for their next vehicle. Why are car companies so unwilling to just do what makes their product the most appealing? Tesla and Rivian software is good and all, but it’s not CarPlay good. Seems seriously arrogant of them
$$$. It is a way for them to move out of just being a car seller and into a recurring stream of revenue (both from subscriptions as well as selling user data). That is the only reason they do it. They do a lot of mental gymnastics to claim their software is so great, but that's just a cover.
 
Carplay is whatever. If you've ever been in a car with a good infotainment system like a Tesla, or Polestar. Carplay is a luxury. Of course if you drive crap cars you'd want it

No matter how good the Infotainment system is, it will never have information my phone has. That makes it a bad system for me to use.

It might be enough for you and that is ok. But most people want Carplay because of that along with all their apps. This is going to be even more crucial as cars get smarter and AI start to become better on phones.
 
Pretty funny that Apple’s largest, publicly known at least, open standard is the thing that induces the most Apple-like behavior from other companies. Every geek friend I have, but also family member that’s aware of Apple products thinks CarPlay is a requirement for their next vehicle. Why are car companies so unwilling to just do what makes their product the most appealing? Tesla and Rivian software is good and all, but it’s not CarPlay good. Seems seriously arrogant of them

They don't get it. Even if the world agrees that Rivian and Tesla software is the most superior software to ever exists, our phone have all the information about us and can react to that information. That is what makes Carplay so much better, is that it is catered to individual person.
 
Carplay is whatever. If you've ever been in a car with a good infotainment system like a Tesla, or Polestar. Carplay is a luxury. Of course if you drive crap cars you'd want it
Infotainment systems and their software are abandonware. If they suffer a bug or performance issues, it's unlikely to resolved. Likewise they are unlikely to support new apps and functionality of existing apps is sometimes updated many months after those on smartphones.
 
I bought a dongle to use CarPlay with my Tesla and, well, I was really unwhelmed. There isn't a whole lot of functionality there, and that really surprised me. You just get to control a few iPhone things you might want when driving. The UI was really basic, too. I was anticipating additional functionality for driving, or something.
 
No matter how good the Infotainment system is, it will never have information my phone has. That makes it a bad system for me to use.

It might be enough for you and that is ok. But most people want Carplay because of that along with all their apps. This is going to be even more crucial as cars get smarter and AI start to become better on phones.
That's not true, modern cars have phone integration without carplay, even 10 year old vehicles have it.

You do you, but your car doesn't need to have everything your phone has, it's honestly better that it doesn't.
 
Good luck

Teslas are so good, CarPlay isn't enough to get people to look at other brands
Yep that’s why the build quality for the last few years has been spotty at best. Creaking dashboards let’s not even get started on the sorry excuse for a vehicle let alone a truck the Cybertruck with parts that fall off that shouldn’t be, a design that if you use the Tondreau cover as designed you have no natural way to look out the back, a gas pedal that fell off and the fix for it was drilling a fastener for the gas pedal plate to the actual pedal. To many people driving them off the lot only to get miles away and having to stop because the vehicle has encountered a massive error that won’t allow it to continue.

Sure Tesla’s are just so good right?
 
Carplay is whatever. If you've ever been in a car with a good infotainment system like a Tesla, or Polestar. Carplay is a luxury. Of course if you drive crap cars you'd want it
It's not just about maps or music and who has the better UI. The car can have great implementations of both but what about the rest? There are a lot of other apps on CarPlay. Car makers can't reimplement all of them and that leaves a need that can only be met by CarPlay. CarPlay has iMessage integration and other messaging apps, too. Are the car makers going to reimplement all of them? There are more streaming music options than Spotify or even Apple Music, what about them? Do Rivian and Tesla support podcasts? I mostly listen to podcasts on Overcast in the car and I know that the car makers aren't going to bother with that. There are other streaming apps like Zoom and Teams audio that they are also not going to build.

And no, bluetooth is not sufficient. It's too limited and you would need to use the phone's screen to see and touch controls. That's not a good option while you're driving.

Then there are privacy concerns. If I'm going to send a message to someone while driving, I don't want to have to share my contacts with Tesla or GM to do it.

Unless you have very plan vanilla needs, even on the best car systems is going to lack some features. CarPlay and AA are a way that we can personalize the experience and bring in some of the missing functions. It has little downside to the car maker if they are being honest.
 
I will not consider a vehicle if it lacks CarPlay. I’m sure many agree.
I dont define my taste in vehicles based on CarPlay or not... I drive a Tesla, and imho the Tesla infotainment offers everything CarPlay offers and I don't miss it.

CarPlay is amazing when you come from a POS drive like a ford, or some obscure brand or an S#!thole car from the age of the dinosaurs, but modern advanced vehicles like Rivian, Polestar or Tesla don't need CarPlay at all.
 
Carplay is whatever. If you've ever been in a car with a good infotainment system like a Tesla, or Polestar. Carplay is a luxury. Of course if you drive crap cars you'd want it
I specifically love Polestar because it supports Apple CarPlay. No, that system isn't as good on its own and Tesla's is ridiculously long in the tooth.
 
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I dont define my taste in vehicles based on CarPlay or not... I drive a Tesla, and imho the Tesla infotainment offers everything CarPlay offers and I don't miss it.

CarPlay is amazing when you come from a POS drive like a ford, or some obscure brand or an S#!thole car from the age of the dinosaurs, but modern advanced vehicles like Rivian, Polestar or Tesla don't need CarPlay at all.
Your Tesla does not offer everything CarPlay offers...definitely not lossless audio over wifi.
 
Carplay is whatever. If you've ever been in a car with a good infotainment system like a Tesla, or Polestar. Carplay is a luxury. Of course if you drive crap cars you'd want it

I own 4 cars, none of them crap cars (whatever that is). I don't want to learn a new system every time I change cars. I have a hard enough time remembering which cruise control for which car. I dont care if Tesla is good enough, it's not standard. I enjoy having a CarPlay standard. Its as simple as that.

So yeah, I dont see buying a new car without it.
 
The lack of software support is a big deal. I've spent several hours in the past at a dealership so they can update the infotainment software. Even if you download updates yourself, there is still a component that the dealership has to install. It's ridiculous. I will also never buy another vehicle without CarPlay or Android Auto support.
And paying for upgrades. I have a car play requirement.
 
$$$. It is a way for them to move out of just being a car seller and into a recurring stream of revenue (both from subscriptions as well as selling user data). That is the only reason they do it. They do a lot of mental gymnastics to claim their software is so great, but that's just a cover.
They are going to monetize our use of the car anyway, why hold CarPlay hostage? They will force subscriptions and they will sell our driving and other data regardless of whether we have CarPlay or not.
 
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