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Apple CarPlay Workaround for Tesla Vehicles Now Available to Download
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I think people don't want to admit that this is absolutely accurate. They're not going to offer a competitor's in-car software when they've already started monetizing their own in-car software...
Premium connectivity for Tesla (which is $9.99 a month or $99/year) includes:
| Live Traffic Visualization |
| Sentry Mode - View Live Camera |
| Satellite-View Maps |
| Video Streaming*⁺⁺ |
| Caraoke* |
| Music Streaming*⁺ |
| Internet Browser* |
They're not going to allow CarPlay or Android Auto in their cars when those competing services (which are free) offer some of the same things you'd need to pay for with Tesla's subscription model.
I'm not the biggest fan of Tesla's UI but i've been able to deal with it after having my M3 for 2 years. I've just accepted that i'm never going to get CarPlay at this point.
You really missed the entire point of that statement - you're the very thing you're trying to accuse others of. Otherwise, grow up, nothing I've ever said in my entire life says I think Apple gives a flying crap whether I exist. Nor do I care enough about Apple to preach about how great they are...but you seem to think that pointing out that you're factually wrong means I'm siding with a company, rather than pointing out that you're just flat out wrong. If Apple made a phone that only worked with Apple cell towers, Apple wifi, only ran apps that Apple created themselves...then Tesla would be "Just like Apple".
Who is monetizing their own in-car software that has stopped including CarPlay? If you think the industry is going to push this out instead of the consumer, you're going to be surprised. Many of these car companies are standardizing on a single platform, and opening up even more to these mirrorcasting technologies. Apple CarPlay still makes them money, it's an upsell for a more powerful infotainment system, some actually make you subscribe to use it. You can't monetize Google Maps. You can't monetize a Phone App. You can't monetize someone else's streaming service.
I did the same but transferred them to Tidal (sounds better than Spotify in my Model 3).
But I'll stick by the hands-free Siri comment I made. My phone is usually in my pocket while I drive, so I'm not tempted to look at it when I'm not supposed to. When it's buried in my pocket, "Hey Siri" won't work. I have an Apple Watch, so I can "Hey Siri" that for many commands, so I've still got functionality when I need it, but having it on the dashboard has its advantages.
But for virtually everything else, Tesla's UI is better. CarPlay is leaps and bounds better than, say, the infotainment display & navigation on my wife's Subaru (since is basically separate from the rest of the car), but since the whole control system for Tesla is virtualized onto the center display, CarPlay just looks weird. Look no further than the image that goes along with the MR article on the front page.
But, lest people think I'm being a Tesla-apologist, I definitely think they need an App Store -- Elon Musk talks about openness, and thus his dislike for Apple, yet he's got this high-performance PC-in-a-car (especially for those of us lucky enough to have the new AMD processors) and a 15" display yet has a completely closed app ecosystem.
Give us a Tesla app store. Allow apps like A Better Route Planner or Waze or Amazon Music or Apple Music, and I think the degree of stress over the lack of CarPlay will go down.
I wish they'd just allow mirroring natively of Android or IOS rather than using the janky Carplay or AA. And scale it to the screen it's displayed on.
Someone might allow that through some means but these apps have to actually meet regulatory requirements. CarPlay is scalable to fit even that entire Tesla screen, but the car manufacturer decides where and how large it is.
I guess its so superior you are okay with your car dictating what music streaming services you use. Tesla has been saying since 2020 they are adding Apple/Amazon Music and guess what still nothing.
I'll call it superior when it supports every service Carplay does.
Well I haven't used it myself, I've only seen videos of it in action. And IMO it looks good compared to most of the car world. And there's a good argument for Tesla navigation, ie it predicts charge level based on vehicle data and says when you should charge and where. That stuff is great. On the other hand, they don't have to keep Carplay out to offer that. Every other electric car has that kind of thing but also has Carplay and Android Auto.
- Apple maps
- Google maps (full)
- Waze
- Alternative navigation routes
- Speed camera alerts
- Ability to zoom in further on route
- Ability for navigation to quieten music during instructions
- Ability for navigation to pause audiobooks during instructions
- Speed aware dynamic volume adjustment
- Spotify (full resolution)
- Other streaming services
- PlexAmp
- Audible
- Prologue (audiobooks from Plex)
- Siri voice recognition
- iMessage/sms reading and dictation
Is the idea that CarPlay would just be a small section of the screen, and Tesla would lay out all of the essential vehicle functionality around CarPlay? Or would CarPlay replace all of the native functionality necessary to use the vehicle and you'd have to switch screens to adjust anything else in the vehicle? I've genuinely stared at my Model 3 screen wondering how they would even implement it. I'm not sure how they would do it eloquently. Personally, I just hope they add native Apple Music someday.
It does look great, I've used it myself and I've read numerous tear downs of the UI and what's wrong with it. Also countless Tesla forum posts discussing how many Tesla drivers prefer CarPlay to their own UI (I do not think the CarPlay UI is very good, it's just useable).
It probably will not be long before CarPlay is allowed to read vehicle data and have its own capability of leveraging Apple Maps and charging stations. Even Tesla could leverage that...and probably should have, rather than creating their own versions of everything. There is simply no way a company like Tesla can compete with powerhouse software developers like Google, Apple, and Microsoft. It's like the rest of the car industry figured this out just as Tesla started digging in its heels. Now, Tesla's already far behind, despite so many thinking it's somehow ahead. And they're about to either have to lower prices to compete with the huge wave of EV's incoming in 2022/2023 or somehow leap frog the competition and make it seem like their software is worth more than a better built car. I have my doubts.
Untrue. I love my Tesla, but the infotainment is shockingly poor.
Split screen or just a window. A lot of carmakers are doing that now. Cadillac Escalade has a weirdo shaped screen (parallelogram) that has CarPlay running within a window. A small window, which sucks that it’s small, but at least it’s there.
I just find it difficult to imagine that such a deep integrated UI like Tesla's would coherently exist with another OS within it. If I'm using multi-stop Tesla navigation with Supercharger integration on the main UI, CarPlay would cover a lot of it and be useless for navigation. I need to use the Tesla navigation for my battery to precondition when nearing a Supercharger station, and I actually really like their navigation. It just feels messy, but if they could pull it off for the people who want it, that'd be great.
USA, at least for now, browser works fine while driving.
You don't have to imagine, just go to any other car (well new ones), quite literally every other major carmaker has Carplay (and Android Auto). Even electric cars. You can see how things are implemented, and yes there isn't deep integration with the car, it's its own world and it doesn't tell you your range or anything. But it doesn't have to, it's focused on music/radio and navigation. You can also mix and match the car system with Carplay, so for instance I can listen to XM radio from the car but have Carplay navigation running side-by-side (sometimes that can be very jank, there have been iOS bugs that kept that from working, mine wanted to play Apple Music and didn't allow the XM radio to go through, but bugs generally get fixed with iOS updates). If you wanted the opposite, car navigation and Carplay music you can do that too.
As I said they can do this like literally every one else, and Carplay's oddities wouldn't go against Tesla because it's up to Apple to fix its issues, but not having Carplay is a mark against Tesla, at least for some people. Take a look at like Mercedes's new system (new S-Class or EQS) or BMW's iDrive 8 (well maybe not for a few months because they will need an update in July for Carplay, ouch). You get a great infotainment system, they offer great maps now. They have built in music like Spotify, etc, but they offer Android Auto and Carplay so people have options.
Fair enough. I mean, that's how it works in my wife's Prius Prime, and I do use CarPlay in there (despite it taking half the screen and leaving blank space on the rest), because the Toyota UI is terrible. It's functional with CarPlay enabled but definitely looks janky. I hope Tesla does it for those who want it.
Well, based on this article, I don’t think he ever will. He will keeps ignoring those request because he HATES Apple so much.
(In reality, he is scared of Apple releasing a car, which they will in few years times, and he knows that Apple’s Car will likely destroy Musk’s massive income source via Tesla. Musk uses iPhone BUT that’s forced by Tesla’s board for security reason, Musk rather make his own phone with his own OS)
(Musk, you’re going to lose the battle no matter what. Apple’s going to destroy Tesla in matter of months when Apple releases their car)
They do not have anything like an App Store. They pick and choose some things around music you can use. Spotify, Tidal and TuneIn. Makes no sense that they don’t have other apps, especially Apple Music, iHeartRadio, since they have the other radio apps. I understand no Waze, as they want you to use their Nav, but still wish it was offered.
I would imagine a lot of Apple people, like me own Tesla’s too. Heck - even Elon is an iPhone guy. Just makes no sense.
tell me you don't know anything about UI without telling me you don't know anything about UI.
tesla only very recently got lane guidance and waypoints, both are still low effort. has a simplistic top-down interface. the tesla navigation system has the same feature parity as a 2000's era tomtom. ABRP is far superior to tesla's own navigation anyways.
Just use a Carlinkit adapter to add wireless CarPlay to nearly any vehicle which already has wired CarPlay. There's a little bit of setup required, but it's ready to go after that.
TBH, even though my VW Atlas already has Wireless CarPlay, I've generally got it plugged in with a magnetic adapter because I'm using Waze and not VW's navigation.
