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Carplay shouldn't replace a manufacturers infotainment, it should be in addition to. I don't want CarPlay taking up the entire Tesla infotainment, Tesla's is far superior to CarPlay. But again, it isn't a competition in my opinion. It should be there to give a developer for an app on my phone ability to have an interaction point in the car. Developers don't want to learn 200 different ways of developing an app on 10 different ecosystems. CarPlay and Android auto give them an easy, familiar platform that they can develop on without having to know anything about that car manufacturers infotainment system.

Anyone saying "CarPlay is dead" or "Tesla's is better so we don't need CarPlay" is missing the point and has clearly never developed software before.

well said. it makes 0 sense for tesla to re-make 10 different music apps on their own like with spotify. even after all this time, spotify is still buggy and doesn't have feature parity with native. nobody has 10 years to wait for tesla to implement it properly.

and tesla currently doesn't have the competence or skillset to implement their own app store. assuming developers would even want to develop for such a small market. carplay/android auto fix this gap.
 
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For non-Tesla owners who think this makes no sense: Tesla's navigation is based on solid Google Maps data and integrates Supercharger locations including how many stalls are available, the charging cost, and more. It uses that charging data to route you, know how much battery you will have left when you get to the station, and how many minutes you will need to charge, etc. It does this for multiple stops and as many charging stations as you will need. CarPlay would be useless for navigation in a Tesla.


Honestly, if I had CarPlay on my Tesla, I wouldn't use it -- and I love CarPlay. I'm open to suggestions of why I'd need it, though.


you are drastically overstating the useful of this or you don't get out much. ABRP does just fine for planning. everything you mentioned is nice to know but hardly neccessary.

I'm open to suggestions of why I'd need it, though.


for anyone not using spotify? anyone who want's a better and more feature complete navigation? kind of disturbing you can't think of those on your own tbh.
 
for anyone not using spotify? anyone who want's a better and more feature complete navigation? kind of disturbing you can't think of those on your own tbh.
Again, I already acknowledged Apple Music on CarPlay is better than Bluetooth, no need to be disturbed or dramatic.

Again, I use CarPlay in my wife's Prius Prime. I don't see the benefits besides Apple Music and nav (which I would not use over my Tesla nav). I said I'm open to suggestions besides navigation or Apple Music, but you gave those two as suggestions.
 
Again, I already acknowledged Apple Music on CarPlay is better than Bluetooth, no need to be disturbed or dramatic.

Again, I use CarPlay in my wife's Prius Prime. I don't see the benefits besides Apple Music and nav (which I would not use over my Tesla nav). I said I'm open to suggestions besides navigation or Apple Music, but you gave those two as suggestions.
That's just it though, maybe today and tomorrow it is just those two. But 6 months from now there could be some new app that you'd really like to have in your car with a UI to be able to interface with it, CarPlay/AA Give you that ability without Tesla or anyone else standing in the way. Just like in the picture of this story, this browser/RPi based CarPlay only gives you a small window, which is plenty. You just need a platform that apps of the future can leverage, not sit around and hope that the manufacture will allow it.
Again, these two systems are not mutually exclusive. Give me Tesla's far superior (in my opinion) UI but the convenience of my phone with my apps on it along side it. Tesla and any other car manufacturer thinking they can compete with Apple and Google as far as app ecosystem is just arrogance.
 
I'm open to suggestions besides navigation or Apple Music

in order words, you want to discount things that carplay is good for because you have no argument against them. you were already wrong about ABRP.

about what i'd expect from a tesla stan i suppose. although i own one myself, im grounded in reality.
 
That's just it though, maybe today and tomorrow it is just those two. But 6 months from now there could be some new app that you'd really like to have in your car with a UI to be able to interface with it, CarPlay/AA Give you that ability without Tesla or anyone else standing in the way. Just like in the picture of this story, this browser/RPi based CarPlay only gives you a small window, which is plenty. You just need a platform that apps of the future can leverage, not sit around and hope that the manufacture will allow it.
Again, these two systems are not mutually exclusive. Give me Tesla's far superior (in my opinion) UI but the convenience of my phone with my apps on it along side it. Tesla and any other car manufacturer thinking they can compete with Apple and Google as far as app ecosystem is just arrogance.
I completely agree!
 
in order words, you want to discount things that carplay is good for because you have no argument against them. you were already wrong about ABRP.

about what i'd expect from a tesla stan i suppose. although i own one myself, im grounded in reality.
Dear lord. I said "besides" those two because I already acknowledged those two (especially Apple Music), not because I was denying those two. You're disagreeing when we don't even disagree.
 
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in order words, you want to discount things that carplay is good for because you have no argument against them. you were already wrong about ABRP.

about what i'd expect from a tesla stan i suppose. although i own one myself, im grounded in reality.
Can ABRP trigger preconditioning for faster DC charging?
 
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Honestly, while CarPlay works on most "normal" sized car displays, it just doesn't fit the whole UI on Tesla. While I miss it a little bit, especially being able to easily add, say, a reminder to my phone with Siri completely hands-free, Tesla kinda does most everything else. It'll even allow you to respond to text messages with voice-to-text.

It'll be less of an issue if & when Tesla opens their own app store.
Except you’ll likely have to pay $10 a month for the premium data package for any of those third party apps to work properly.
 
Give us a Tesla app store. Allow apps like A Better Route Planner or Waze or Amazon Music or Apple Music, and I think the degree of stress over the lack of CarPlay will go down.
From a developers stand point, where does it end? So Tesla makes their own App store, cool I have to learn their development process and learn another SDK. Oh GM wants their own app store too, so I've gotta manage the software apps on that app store too. Then Ford follows suit, and then you're left with 20 different platforms and having to learn a multitude of development practices.

Or you can allow CarPlay and Android Auto and be done with it. Seems like the answer is pretty clear.
 
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abrp will tell you the route to input into tesla.

it's really not that complicated.
To answer the question, no it doesn't precondition the battery which is very important. There will be things that Tesla's infotainment does better, and in such cases use it
 
To answer the question, no it doesn't precondition the battery which is very important. There will be things that Tesla's infotainment does better, and in such cases use it


oh no, the inconvenience of tapping a few extra buttons when fast charging.

ill take the far superior waze instead.
 
abrp will tell you the route to input into tesla.

it's really not that complicated.
So your proposed solution, if Tesla implemented CarPlay: You would run a third-party app (ABRP) on your iPhone, which is connected via CarPlay (and displays much smaller than the built-in nav), and then you manually input that same route into the Tesla navigation when you need to pre-condition?

oh no, the inconvenience of tapping a few extra buttons when fast charging.

ill take the far superior waze instead.
So you want Waze rather than ABRP, but you will still enter the Supercharger location manually into the Tesla nav to precondition?

It sounds like a lot of extra steps, but I suppose if you really like ABRP or Waze it's worth it.
 
So your proposed solution, if Tesla implemented CarPlay: You would run a third-party app (ABRP) on your iPhone, which is connected via CarPlay (and displays much smaller than the built-in nav), and then you manually input that same route into the Tesla navigation when you need to pre-condition?


So you want Waze rather than ABRP, but you will still enter the Supercharger location manually into the Tesla nav to precondition?

It sounds like a lot of extra steps, but I suppose if you really like ABRP or Waze it's worth it.

i don't supercharge very often. preconditioning also makes very little difference in the climate and method i drive. my car also has a warmer so it's not some game changer lmao, it's a few minutes.

that's really the best argument tesla stans have? preconditioning?
 
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i don't supercharge very often. preconditioning also makes very little difference in the climate and method i drive. my car also has a warmer so it's not some game changer lmao, it's a few minutes.

that's really the best argument tesla stans have? preconditioning?
Just trying to understand. It still sounds like a convoluted and ineloquent solution.

Some of us do travel and Supercharge a lot, which is ironic since you said I "don't get out much."

I'll say it one last time since I think our discussion has lost its fruitfulness: I hope they add CarPlay so that you can use it. It's annoying that they haven't. I'm not sure how I'm a Tesla stan for simply stating I wouldn't benefit or use it myself. I've maintained this the whole thread. Best of luck.
 
i don't supercharge very often. preconditioning also makes very little difference in the climate and method i drive. my car also has a warmer so it's not some game changer lmao, it's a few minutes.

that's really the best argument tesla stans have? preconditioning?
Cool, so it doesn't fit your use case congrats. There's going to be tons of things that don't fit your use case and will fit others. That's kind of the point, choice and personal preference. This isn't the iPhone in 2008 where you can have any color you want, as long as it's black. And then people also defended it back then that "Well why would you want any other color".
Tesla does things that are superior to carplay, carplay does things that are superior to tesla, just depends on the use case and personal preference. No need to call names when one of the use cases doesn't fit your personal use case.
 
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i don't supercharge very often. preconditioning also makes very little difference in the climate and method i drive. my car also has a warmer so it's not some game changer lmao, it's a few minutes.

that's really the best argument tesla stans have? preconditioning?
Actually, one last question: are you ACTUALLY Rob Schneider?

I thought you'd be so much nicer in real life.
 
Cool, so it doesn't fit your use case congrats. There's going to be tons of things that don't fit your use case and will fit others. That's kind of the point, choice and personal preference. This isn't the iPhone in 2008 where you can have any color you want, as long as it's black. And then people also defended it back then that "Well why would you want any other color".
Tesla does things that are superior to carplay, carplay does things that are superior to tesla, just depends on the use case and personal preference. No need to call names when one of the use cases doesn't fit your personal use case.

im still waiting for you to think up something other than preconditioning.

try again.


Actually, one last question: are you ACTUALLY Rob Schneider?

I thought you'd be so much nicer in real life.

unfortunately not
 
im still waiting for you to think up something other than preconditioning.

try again.




unfortunately not
What are you trying to get across exactly? You're not really making an argument, you're just throwing around names. I've said before that Tesla should support CarPlay, and you're just going around and around saying that "preconditioning also makes very little difference in the climate and method i drive". Cool, give me a full synopsis of your entire day play by play and I'll try to come up with another example?
Again, I've said it before and I'll say it again. CarPlay and Tesla's infotainment shouldn't be mutually exclusive. If you just want to continue trying to throw around "tesla stans" then go ahead, which is ironic since I don't even own a Tesla
 
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therefore, your opinion is useless here.
LOL, nice way to completely ignore everything and still not answer the question. This has larger impacts than just being a Tesla owner as it sets precedence, but if you want to think that because I don't own a Tesla then my opinion on bringing CarPlay over to a currently closed ecosystem is useless than so be it. Clearly I'm not having an educated debate, just speaking to a petulant child.
 
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tell me you don't know anything about UI without telling me you don't know anything about UI.

Are you kidding me? CarPlay cuts off every scroll list at somewhere around 10 items. Doesn't matter how many scroll arrows there are, it won't go past "A" in my music library. Or SiriusXM. Or Spotify. Or Podcasts. Or Contacts. Or... or ... or ...

So how is limiting my data to the first few entries tied to me not knowing a UI? It's Apple's stupidity that's the problem, not me.
 
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