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Good.

As a musician and song writer I fully hope all streaming sites follow and end free tiers.

I would love to see a show of hands at how many people would like to get paid less for their main source of income.

I would love to see a show of hand at how many users can do one job one time and be paid for that one time job over and over and over for the rest of their lives.
 
I finished loading all my music back to my other Macs and older iPods. Back to good old WiFi or cable syncs again for my music and playlist.

I'll miss the auto sync across Macs and iOS devices but this bonehead move from Apole just killed iTunes Match for me.
 
I never used the radio station feature much. I checked when I saw this article and I can't stream music stations for free anymore.

NPR stations still work however.
 
Anyone know of a station on another free service that is comparable to the "Mixtape" radio station?
I was really diggin' the heck outta' that - with its really well curated mix of alternative, hip hop & ecelectic stuff...
Pandora, Spotify, etc... anyone hit on somethin' like this on another free service?
Thanks so much!
 
they had radio?

As do other companies... ads only annoy so I can't blame the shift. But $10/mo for unlimited rental is great... but there's no ROI to the customer, who will spend far less amassing uncompressed audio CDs or digital purchase... even vinyl, despite the myths of quality, it's nice to see competition against the streaming video less-quality-for-more-money format, especially when these other formats amusingly cost less than digital downloads too - at least at album level, but $6 for a CD with better audio quality beats the snot out of the compressed equivalent for $12 one-time purchase or $10/mo for as long as you exist ($120/yr times 70 years = way too much, assuming one keeps paying, prices don't go up (and they will once competition goes away), etc...)
 
The fact that iTunes Match customers received streaming music free was never a stated benefit or service of iTunes Match. They were never promised such service with iTunes Match. Just because I get girls driving a Ferrari doesn't mean I can get mad at Ferrari if I go out and don't get girls.

https://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204962

If you're upset, request a refund. I'm sure they're happy to make it happen.

You sure about that? Stands to reason the they updated the site.

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/06/10Apple-Announces-iTunes-Radio.html

"iTunes Radio is ad-supported and free for everyone. iTunes Match℠ users get iTunes Radio ad-free, so instead of hearing the occasional ad on iTunes Radio, iTunes Match makes your listening completely ad-free. "
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It is a sad day. Apple has now become just as greedy as Microsoft! :mad: Tim Cook, you have tarnished the Apple brand.

Some of your customers can not afford the "premium" service. I am not pleased with your market decision. I will return to using TuneIn Radio.

The Microsoft that offered Zune Pass for $10 with 10 DRM free songs to keep every month?
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I would love to see a show of hand at how many users can do one job one time and be paid for that one time job over and over and over for the rest of their lives.

Unfortunately it's far fewer than those who do no job and happily receive payment over and over for the rest of their lives.
 
That's why I paid for iTunes match (radio without advertisements). Is it legal for Apple to cancel it for iTunes match subscribers ? ?



I did. I pay a yearly iTunes match subscription to get the ad free radio from Apple.
Yes it is as per the agreement. I believe it says they can add/remove features at any time (iTunes Radio is a feature of the iTunes Match service).
 
I tried iTunes radio for a while, but the horrendous music selection made me suicidal. Went back to Pandora and I'm in a much better place.
 
You sure about that? You might be surprised at how many people on public assistance have a job.

Not really and they have nothing to do with what I said, being that they have jobs and all. The post I quouted about those who produce art is profoundly ignorant and I just wanted to inspire a little thought. Parasites versus those who enrich our lives.
 
Shame. I hardly used iTunes Radio, but it was a nice thing to have for the occasional time I wanted to throw a station on in the background for a party or something.

Still not going to get Apple Music. I prefer buying my music and sorting it and syncing from my iTunes myself. Guess I'm just old school or something. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to play some more music on my iPod Classic here...
 
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I would have 10 years of music listening enjoyment for $1200. A lot more music than I could buy.

The same as buying a car for $25,000 - I get maybe 10 years out of it before I sell it for like $1,000. That's $24,000 wasted over 10 years according to your argument.

You fail to realize the benefit of having what you purchased or rented for all those years. That factors in the equation as well.

In fact, we're leasing my wife's car for $289 a month. It's well worth it to pay $10 a day for her to have a car, and it's worth the inconvenience of not having the 2nd car.

That is nice that it works out for you. I was responding to your post here.

don't understand people who won't get something for $10. I can understand saving like $1,000 on something, but $10 is pigeon feed. I'm glad my finances are better than yours.

What you fail to realize is that not everyone is you. I said repeatedly, that it is great that AM works for you, but saying it is the best option for everyone, is just silly.

It's like saying: After 10 years of paying for coffee at Starbucks, you would have spent crap loads of money, what will you have to show for it?

Coffee is a consumable. iTunes Music is not. Here is a link to the definition if you need help.
 
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I do not expect Apple to give anything away for free. I expect them to continue honoring the agreement they made with their iTunes Match customers when they said that as a part of subscribing to iTunes Match was that you can "listen to on-demand music stations without ads".

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Where have I once said that I am upset about Apple getting rid of free radio? I paid for a service that included ad-free radio stations and now Apple has pulled that part of the deal. How is that acceptable?

Did you sign up for iTunes Match after iTunes Radio was announced? iTunes Match was $24.99 before iTunes Radio was launched. Seems to me the issue is iTunes Radio wasn't really part of iTunes Match; it was something separate that iTunes Match customers were able to get ad-free. Basically a bonus for Match customers. But if some customers specifically signed up for iTunes Match to get iTunes Radio I can understand why they'd be upset and Apple should offer a refund if they ask for it.
 
What you will "have to show for it" will be the music you enjoyed without buying. Enjoying no limits on how much music you wanted to hear at any given time, by any artists, in any order. For God's sake, have you ever rented a movie? You pay less than buying it would have been and, for whatever period of time the rental is agreed upon, you can watch it to your heart's content. THAT is what ANY subscription service is about. Seeing/hearing/playing premium content during a limited amount of time for as often as you like during that period for FAR less than purchasing it outright. When it comes to media, people (I am NOT singling you out here) are really greedy these days.


Renting music and movies are very different.

I think most people watch a movie or a TV show once, with a few exception for their favorites. Music, even not someones favorite is listened to many times.

A closer example, although non-tech, would be renting/leasing vs owning a car. You use the car a lot, over a long period of time. I guess you could also use a house.

Renting music over years time, if Apple discontinues the service, you would have spent lots of money, with nothing to show for it. Yes, you used the service for all that time, but when compared to owning, you have that music forever.

That said, I am not knocking people that use AM, but don't tell me that it is better for me than owning.

It is not GREED, it is common sense.
 
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Apple today officially ended free streaming of its iTunes Radio channels worldwide, incorporating the catalogue of stations into its subscription-based Apple Music service.

The change follows Apple's announcement earlier this month that its free radio-listening feature would be discontinued at the end of January but would remain available to Apple Music subscribers.

As of this morning, iOS Music app users who tap on a radio station are bounced to a screen prompting them to join Apple's premium streaming music service.

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Likewise, iTunes users on a Mac who attempt to access the stations or create their own are met with a dialog window asking them to "Get on Our Wavelength" and join Apple Music.

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Users with an iTunes Match subscription are also no longer able to access the stations. However, Apple's Beats 1 radio channel remains available to iTunes users worldwide as a free listening option.

Apple had quietly continued to offer ad-supported iTunes Radio stations in the United States and Australia even after the launch of Apple Music on June 30, 2015. However, after the company's decision to wind down its mobile iAd platform, the feature was already being limited in other regions to those who pay for Apple's streaming music service.

iTunes Radio was originally released with iTunes 11.1 and iOS 7 as a free ad-supported service, offering music discovery through featured and genre stations provided by Apple or through the creation of new stations based on a specific artist or song.

Article Link: Apple Ceases Free iTunes Radio Streaming Worldwide


Screw Beats !
 
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The fact that iTunes Match customers received streaming music free was never a stated benefit or service of iTunes Match. They were never promised such service with iTunes Match. Just because I get girls driving a Ferrari doesn't mean I can get mad at Ferrari if I go out and don't get girls.

https://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204962

If you're upset, request a refund. I'm sure they're happy to make it happen.

I am sure that others pointed this out, but your info is wrong. It was changed.

Here is a post about it from a week ago on a different thread.
It was recently changed, so you are WRONG.

It's not just a bonus, it's an advertised feature. Apple's Match page says right now: "Subscribe to iTunes Match on your Mac, PC, or iOS device, and listen to on-demand music stations without ads. Subscribe for just $24.99 a year"
 
The drug dealer motto is- first is free everything after cost money. the exact opposite of what you just said.
If you look at the Apple Music model, they give it to you for free for 3 months. Once you are hooked, then it's 10/month for ever. How is this not the drug dealer model?
 
Renting music and movies are very different.

I think most people watch a movie or a TV show once, with a few exception for their favorites. Music, even not someones favorite is listened to many times.

A closer example, although non-tech, would be renting/leasing vs owning a car. You use the car a lot, over a long period of time. I guess you could also use a house.

Renting music over years time, if Apple discontinues the service, you would have spent lots of money, with nothing to show for it. Yes, you used the service for all that time, but when compared to owning, you have that music forever.

That said, I am not knocking people that use AM, but don't tell me that it is better for me than owning.

It is not GREED, it is common sense.
Forever? Sorry not important to me. With most subscriptions I can easily download enough music so that after 5 years my investment is far less than yours and I can do it in the first 30 days then enjoy that financial benefit and good music. If you are a casual User then maybe subscription isn't good, families absolutely. I have stacks of cd's from 30 years of purchasing, most have one or two songs I like to listen to. No thanks to going back to that mess.
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If you look at the Apple Music model, they give it to you for free for 3 months. Once you are hooked, then it's 10/month for ever. How is this not the drug dealer model?
Maybe because you can easily stop at anytime and it won't kill you?What a silly comparison
 
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Shame. I hardly used iTunes Radio, but it was a nice thing to have for the occasional time I wanted to throw a station on in the background for a party or something.

Still not going to get Apple Music. I prefer buying my music and sorting it and syncing from my iTunes myself. Guess I'm just old school or something. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to play some more music on my iPod Classic here...

Apple should have gone retro/old school and revived the iPod Classic with better parts strictly for music and radio consumption. I still have the original and it was the most dedicated/focused device they built. I don't think iPod Touch is appropriate for this anymore, let alone the iPhone or iPad.

I don't buy Tim C's BS claims of the company not being able to get parts for it, let alone the fact that other companies still can.
 
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