Personally I don’t care if people say merry Christmas or not. It doesn’t matter at all to me.
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Personally I don’t care if people say merry Christmas or not. It doesn’t matter at all to me.
"Judeo-Christian values." Apparently you're only supposed to reject secular values and Muslims.
Speaking about "Judeo-Christian Values:"
“This is a term defined by exclusion,” said Shalom Goldman, a professor at Middlebury College in Vermont, arguing that the term is often used to reject secular values and Muslims.
“It’s essentially saying our values are not the values of the Enlightenment or the Constitution, but instead our values are the values of the Bible,” he said.
https://washingtonjewishweek.com/34907/judeo-christian-values/news/national-news/
Saying "Merry Christmas" is a phrase of exclusion and is divisive, which is why some raise it as a political issue to divide people.
Saying "Happy Holidays" is a phrase of inclusion, which is much more in keeping with Christ's message of love.
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lol this never gets old, I still joke about it with my wife every time her name comes up
Yes... for those that practice it.
But given that he’s representing a company in official capacity... and as a business he wants to sell to everyone and not just one group of people.............
Well, I’ll let you try to fill in the rest.
You’ll notice it’s businesses that use Happy Holidays, or people addressing large groups of people. Person to person, we have more knowledge of people and say appropriate terms.
This is an incredibly dumb post.
“Hey, I don’t see Game of Thrones up here either! Or Friends! Or Sopranos! The NFL/NHL/NBA/MLS/MLB aren’t up there! Those aren’t seasons so stop calling them seasons!”
A season is a period of any year, of indeterminate length, characterized by activities, events, festivities, weather, features.
Living in Florida, I was comforted to learn there are only four seasons, so Hurricane season is a myth.
So naming something is always the rejection of everything else that is not named and therefore "defined by exclusion"? That makes no sense.
Like I said before, the values of enlightenment and of the constitution didn't just magically appear out of nowhere.
I don't see it. If I wish somebody "Merry Christmas" it has nothing to do with whatever the hell that person believes in. If the person I'm directing it to happens to be muslim or atheistic, I'm not saying "Burn in hell", I'm still saying "Merry Christmas". Besides, the term "Holidays" still originates from a secular context, literally saying "Holy days". So isn't the term a phrase of exclusion towards non-religious people? I don't see where this kind of ignorant reading of everything out of context, independently of intention and cultural background, is ending. It makes no sense to me.
Because it never had to do anything to do with Christ originally.
Just because you rose from a small sect during Ancient Rome to large religious organization, that doesn't mean than you can steal Pagan holidays and slap your own stickers over them.
Tim Cook wasn't saying it to "somebody," he was saying it to "everybody."
There's a difference when speaking to an individual and a group.
Saying "Merry Christmas" to a group, excludes non-Christians from the message, while saying "Happy Holidays" includes everyone.
I'm willing to bet that in person, Tim Cook wishes "Happy Hanukkah" or "Merry Christmas" to personal acquaintances when appropriate.
The converse of claiming "Happy Holidays" is a war on Christians would be to claim that saying "Merry Christmas" is a war on Muslims, Jews, and non believers.
You’d win that bet.
Also, on the actual day we celebrate Christmas, Tim Cook will tweet a Merry Christmas to everyone, just as he does with Diwali, Easter, and many other holidays.
First of all, I don't really think the use of "Happy Holidays" is that controversial. It's around for quite some time and has its purpose. I'm not thinking that the phrase is in any way a war on Christmas or Christians. After all, it's still pretty evident from going into an American mall that it is indeed Christmas that is about to come.
I don't see it. Saying "Merry Christmas" is not saying "Merry Christmas to all the Christians and burn in hell to the rest of you". Christmas is not a thing that is exclusively celebrated by Christians. In fact most people I know that are celebrating Christmas haven't seen the inside of a church for years.
So no, I don't see the explicit exclusion here. You need to make a lot of assumptions to actually coin it that way. And again, I see no problem in saying "Happy Holidays", it's fine by me. But saying that everybody who instead wishes a Merry Christmas is a monster trying to exclude people is a horrible misinterpretation that I reject.
And like I said before, if you assume "Merry Christmas" is a term of exclusion, then "Happy Holidays" can be interpreted in the same way. What about people that do not celebrate anything in these days? What about people without any family? What about people who can't afford to take a break in this time? What about people who are currently depressed? These people will indeed feel excluded from this message. But that's just what life is and that's just how society works. You can't include everybody, there are not any 100% inclusive words, phrases or whatever.
I just find it funny that the same types of people who rail about safe spaces and use the term SJW as a pejorative get so worked up if their specific holiday isn’t mentioned by name. I’m pretty sure that Christmas will survive even if Tim Cook doesn’t say the word.
I wonder if her song(s) specifically referred to Christmas?
Yes, the job is done - much like "have a good day" or "hi" connotes warmer feelings than saying nothing. Would you actually be offended if I said, "Have a good day", or do I have to say something like "I really hope you have a great day, <your name>, and I really mean that."? The real issue is that you read negatives by a generic greeting that really aren't there. Best you can do is just ignore the greeting as if nothing was said.
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Values devoid of any religious affiliation - one can have values without some supernatural system for approval or verification. Pain and pleasure, hate and love, respect and disdain, politeness or rudeness, justice or tyranny, need no religion to authenticate. One can use religion to back up or invalidate such values, but it isn't a necessary foundation. Being intelligent or sane enough to understand good vs. bad is sufficient. History has demonstrated that religion has done at least as much to inflict pain as to alleviate it, as all of the negative response to something as simple as "Happy Holidays" seems to illustrate.
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Christmas is GREAT!!!
So shoot me for not being PC.....Oh and did I mention CHRISTMAS!!!
There's the holiday spirit! Christmas as a weapon.Christmas is GREAT!!!
So shoot me for not being PC.....Oh and did I mention CHRISTMAS!!!
As we say in the South, Bless You (and the horse you rode in on).
You know Jews make up about 1.5% of the country while Christians make up about 75%, right?
Incredible how it's come to a point that the vast majority has to bend over for a select few.
The Founding Fathers were in many ways far more influenced by Greek and Roman forms of government than anything having to do with christianity... since christian form of government is a celestial dictatorship controlled by fear masquerading as 'love'.