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The App Store pictures have women being intimate with each other--not knocking boots, but clearly being romantic. I feel the exact same about heterosexual apps. I don't recall Apple "featuring" eHarmony Apps with intimate couples and I wouldn't want to see it. A 9 year old goes there for games. I don't want to explain complex social interactions to a child.
Don't let your child use a phone? Yes a child.
 
The App Store pictures have women being intimate with each other--not knocking boots, but clearly being romantic. I feel the exact same about heterosexual apps. I don't recall Apple "featuring" eHarmony Apps with intimate couples and I wouldn't want to see it. A 9 year old goes there for games. I don't want to explain complex social interactions to a child.
I don’t just poke around the App Store for no reason, so I never saw it. I assume, at worst, it was a couple sharing a kiss. God forbid a child sees two people kissing! It might just be too complex for their little minds.

(As if kissing isn’t shown on Nickelodeon and Disney Channel and kids’ movies on a fairly regular basis. Spare me.)
 
If you are indeed curious, I can answer. I never said that that 100% of LGBTQ people are so by choice. There are obviously cases when this is not a choice However, before the LGBTQ propaganda, the percentage of those identifying as LGBTQ was a small fraction of those who identify as LGBTQ today.

My sister, who is a left-wing liberal, is now at her wits’ end because of what has happened to her kids. They live in one of the most LGBTQ friendly cities on the West Coast. She allowed her kids to immerse themselves in the LGBTQ environment, and now they are completely on the LGBTQ train. All their friends are LGBTQ, and she now wishes with anguish that she had left her community a decade ago and moved to a more traditional setting. This is totally uncharacteristic of her, as she always advocated for the most left-wing and liberal views and loved the environment where she lived. The problem is that she was raised in an environment devoid of LGBTQ propaganda, so she had no idea what effect the LGBTQ propaganda could have on young minds.

This is just silly. About 5-7% of the population identifies as gay. That hasn't changed much since Kinsey started doing anonymous studies back in the 60s (estimating "10%") and that lack of change is despite wider acceptance and tolerance. It is unlikely to change any time soon.

I can guarantee it's not a choice for 99% of gay people. Girls are more flexible and more prone to "experiment" (and millennial women are slightly more likely to identify as gay - about 7%) but the numbers really don't change much. If your sister's kids are identifying as gay, then they probably always were and always will be, no matter where they grew up or if they ever "came out". If her kids are girls they're statistically more likely to be 'experimenting' than if they're boys. And if that's the case they'll figure it out eventually and she should just relax.
 
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You’ll never get equal time for every religion or nationality, but i’d Be surprised if a company the size of Apple didn’t have events to celebrate Diwali, Eid Al-Fitr, Guy Fawkes Day, Cinco de Mayo, and many others.

What about Christianity?
 
No, there isn’t. And as a shareholder I fully support what Apple did here. If you disagree then buy a majority share from Warren Buffett and demand something else or go buy a Lenovo.
Who lit your fuse? I'll buy whatever I freaking want as I don't need you to pick out my computer hardware for me.

I didn't even express an opinion on the LGBT aspect of the story. All I said was that there is a big difference between "private companies" and publicly traded companies in response to someone who erroneously claimed that Apple was a private company. If Apple were a private company, you would not be a shareholder period.

There is a new support group for people like you who are so "woke" that nobody can even carry on a conversation around you without you jumping down their throats. https://twitter.com/bbccomedy/status/1010189882503950336/video/1
 
What does it mean own? I am responsible for them infront of God and should lead them to Godly life.

I am religious and gay. I try and live a godly life.


I am not going to try and win any argument. I will not even argue. You can do what you please, for sure. I believe in the Bible. God calls homosexuality a sin and sin it is. There are many gay people being preachers today...but they are self made preachers and have nothing to do with true Christianity. Actually, LGBTQXYRDF is not the minority today, true christianity is.

God also called a million other things a sin in the old testament. Do you eat Pork? Do you wear clothes of two different types of fabric? Do you eat shellfish?

Why would being gay be a sin? Do you believe God makes gay people just to torment them and send them to hell?

The App Store pictures have women being intimate with each other--not knocking boots, but clearly being romantic. I feel the exact same about heterosexual apps. I don't recall Apple "featuring" eHarmony Apps with intimate couples and I wouldn't want to see it. A 9 year old goes there for games. I don't want to explain complex social interactions to a child.

Kids see couples kiss and show affection in kids tv shows and films ALL THE TIME. It is normal to understand as a 9 year old that people can romantically love each other. I don't see the problem of them knowing that same sex couples also love each other. Nothing sexual about that.

Is it still three knocks, a cough and whistling thee bars of 'Dixie" to get in? I've not been for a while and I keep forgetting the super secret signal.

Oh they've changed it again? I thought it was the chorus of "Believe" by Cher ;)
 
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Took the (written) words out of my mouth (so to speak.) Point very well made.

The amount of faux outrage the "conservative" posters on MacRumours seem to have is ludicrous.
The use of "extreme" examples… everything being "forced down their throats" apparently. Where? When?

My husband and myself certainly have no agenda to "force" our relationship on others… We get on with our business. We live "out" and openly. We work, we pay our taxes, we help our (straight with kiddies *gasp*!) neighbours… Just normal people living and loving.
When one runs the most valuable in the world publicly trading company and makes marching in an LGBTQ parade a company policy, this is forcing the LGBTQ agenda down the throats of those who do not subscribe to the LGBTQ agenda. Like I said before, Tim Cook should march in these parades as a private citizen instead of making this an Apple corporate policy.
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I was with you until you lumped a whole generation into a pigeon hole, in the same fashion as others lump LGBTQ folks. If there is one person - and there are very many more - born between 1946 and 1963 who didn't "ruin this planet", you are wrong. But of course, you have every right to blame people by birthdate. BTW, Tim Cook is a baby boomer, as was Steve Jobs.
This insult was addressed to me, and I'm not a baby boomer.
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This is just silly. About 5-7% of the population identifies as gay. That hasn't changed much since Kinsey started doing anonymous studies back in the 60s (estimating "10%") and that lack of change is despite wider acceptance and tolerance. It is unlikely to change any time soon.

I can guarantee it's not a choice for 99% of gay people. Girls are more flexible and more prone to "experiment" (and millennial women are slightly more likely to identify as gay - about 7%) but the numbers really don't change much. If your sister's kids are identifying as gay, then they probably always were and always will be, no matter where they grew up or if they ever "came out". If her kids are girls they're statistically more likely to be 'experimenting' than if they're boys. And if that's the case they'll figure it out eventually and she should just relax.

According to this article called "The Rainbow Ate My Daughter," 52% of 13-20 year-olds identify themselves as LGBTQ. In the UK, 54% of 18-24 year-olds identify themselves as LGBTQ. I hope you are happy as to the effectiveness of the LGBTQ propaganda. Tim Cook is not wasting time or money on his social agenda; LGBTQ community is very effective in converting the youth to the LGBTQ lifestyle.
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I don’t just poke around the App Store for no reason, so I never saw it. I assume, at worst, it was a couple sharing a kiss. God forbid a child sees two people kissing! It might just be too complex for their little minds.

(As if kissing isn’t shown on Nickelodeon and Disney Channel and kids’ movies on a fairly regular basis. Spare me.)
Well, you won't understand until or unless you have a child.
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errr...Christmas?
Actually, in an ideal world, Christmas should be celebrated at home, and companies should not be involved in any religious or political activity whatsoever. As a non-Christian, I would rather live in a society whose public holidays were not based on any particular religious holidays. Let employees decide for which religious holidays they want to take time off.
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Again, you have failed to answer my question; you say the Bible say's homosexuality is a sin yet you are apparently ignorant as to why you think it states that.

Here's a shocker for you - the KJV bible may say this in Pauls writings, but other translations do NOT. Oh noes! How can this be?

Luther's translation for example doesn't mention homosexuality in Corinthains, for example. Nope, he states "Kinder sexuell missbrauchen" (to abuse children, sexually), the two French transaltions from 1774 have either "ceux qui commettent des péchés contre nature" (those who commit sins against natuire) which is similar to the Danish version) or "les abominables" and the 1602 Irish translation by William O'Domhnuill, uses "dáoine míonadúrtha" (unnatural people).

None of these have Paul writing about Homosexuality. Odd, huh?

How can this be? God's word isn't the same in different languages? Wait, please tell me you knew that the bible wasn't written in English?

You are a typical bible basher - you know oh so very very little about the book your profess to follow, yet you push it mercilessly.

That is sadly oh so common today.

I gave you several chances to answer thew question - you failed to answer it. This should surprise no-one here.

Again it is shown the most vocal and vehement of Christians are the ones who know least about their most holy of their books.

This lesson in Bible studies was brought to you by the letter T and the number 2. You're welcome...
I am not a Christian, but I know very well that there's nothing in the Christian bible about homosexuality. But, the Jewish Bible clearly condemns homosexuality, and it is not a matter of translation. It is written there in Hebrew. Having said that, Christianity has been practicing the "replacement theology" for two millennia now. This doctrine rejects the Hebrew bible (aka Old Testament) and claims that Jesus has canceled all the laws and replaced them with just a couple. So, it is completely natural for a Christian to claim that Jesus did not condemn homosexuality because, in fact, there is nothing in the Christian bible (aka New Testament) mentioned about this topic. Homosexuality is not condoned or condemned in the New Testament.

All of this aside, it should not be a business of ours, the mere mortals, to pass a judgment on homosexuals. God has all the power He needs to make His own judgment. This is a refreshing thought because it relieves us of the necessity to juxtapose the Bible with Civil Rights. As decent humans, we should support equality even for those with whom we disagree.

However, it is still my right to guard my child from the homosexual lifestyle, especially, because I firmly believe that a person can either be born a homosexual or be indoctrinated into homosexuality. My strong belief is that an exposure to homosexual behavior or propaganda at an early age can screw with a child's psyche and could very well set a child on a homosexual lifestyle track. So, please, dear LGBTQ people, go get married and live happily thereafter - I fully support your rights and I do not want to discriminate against your anywhere. However, please stay the hell away from my child.
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And I hope the Christianity stays in minority until it completely vanishes from the world just like all religions since they caused and continue to do so, many injustices, deaths and fear to the whole population they preach. You should also know your bible more since it's not "God" who called homosexuality a sin which the word wasn't even invented back then but the Moses law which was used to control the population of Israel at the time, then again there's enough scientific proof that proves Moses has never existed.
There is scientific proof that Moses has never existed? Would you care to share a few? And, by the way, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah happened in the days of Abraham, who argued and pleaded with God to save the people and not to destroy them, but both cities were nevertheless destroyed. This was about 500 years before Moses received the Torah on Mount Sinai. You are quite an erudite and a biblical scholar, as I can see.
 
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What about Christianity?
Someone already answered "what about Christianity." To which you insisted you were talking about OTHER religions and nationalities. So I excluded Christianity from my list. I wouldn't have, if you hadn't set that condition.

So what about it?
 
According to this article called "The Rainbow Ate My Daughter," 52% of 13-20 year-olds identify themselves as LGBTQ. In the UK, 54% of 18-24 year-olds identify themselves as LGBTQ. I hope you are happy as to the effectiveness of the LGBTQ propaganda. Tim Cook is not wasting time or money on his social agenda; LGBTQ community is very effective in converting the youth to the LGBTQ lifestyle.

Oh dear, that is not an “article”, it’s a personal essay from a website that encourages any random person to post their random opinions. It offers no citations, only vaguely mentioning “polls” that may or may not exist and certainly weren’t scientific. It’s hysteria.

Here’s a real article with real citations to real (CDC) information :)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com...king-kids-about-their-sexual-orientation/amp/
TLDR: about 8%

I don’t think the poll mentioned in that hysterical personal essay you linked to actually exists. But if it does, it’s very vague about what was actually asked. It sounds like maybe they asked kids whether they’re “100% straight”, and (since scientific opinion since Kinsey holds that sexuality is a spectrum), many — and probably a larger percentage of girls — answered “no.”
 
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Yes I’m sure. And you are too. We’d both agree that besides being a religion Christianity has a philosophy. Like any philosophy it dictates how you should live your life. It must be unique in some way otherwise we wouldn’t have a specific word for it.

Many things Christianity promotes can be found elsewhere. This shouldn’t be surprising as Christianity claims to be in accord with reason. It isn’t that you can’t find elements of a Christian culture elsewhere. It even isn’t that you won’t find people who live more in accord with the philosophy elsewhere. It is that a Christian culture will be unique in some ways because it is the underlying philosophy of most people.

Whether you agree with Christianity or not it should be obvious that a people who base their lives of off Christianity will be different than a people who base their life off of some other belief, for instance nihilism.
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You can find people who claim to be Christians who will say anything. But it is dishonest to think that most Christians are in favor of murdering homosexuals. Saudi Arabia actually does murder homosexuals. It isn’t a Christian country. In fact no Christian country sanctions the murder of homosexuals.

You really didn't give any examples. If you are going to generalize I'd say Christianity is in accord with "Control".
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Lol. That is not an “article”, it’s a personal essay from a website that encourages any random person to post their random opinions. It offers no citations, only vaguely mentioning “polls” that may or may not exist and certainly weren’t scientific. It’s hysteria. (Also, very vague: if the polls she talks about actually exist, my guess is they asked kids whether they’re “100% straight”, and since scientific opinion since Kinsey holds that sexuality is a spectrum, most girls answered “no.”)

Here’s a real article with real citations to real (CDC) information :)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com...king-kids-about-their-sexual-orientation/amp/

I'd beiieve random opinions over an "article" any day. Scientific opinion is based on a controlled scenario. In other words you can extract whatever opinion you are trying to convey if you control the parameters.
 
The App Store pictures have women being intimate with each other--not knocking boots, but clearly being romantic. I feel the exact same about heterosexual apps. I don't recall Apple "featuring" eHarmony Apps with intimate couples and I wouldn't want to see it. A 9 year old goes there for games. I don't want to explain complex social interactions to a child.

Maybe that 9 year old should be having a childhood in the real world rather than fixed to a screen - but then he/she might see two people holding hands!

And yes, Apple does feature straight dating apps.
 
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Here is a New Testament for you. Being religious does’t mean living a godly life.

“For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:25-32‬


I am religious and gay. I try and live a godly life.




God also called a million other things a sin in the old testament. Do you eat Pork? Do you wear clothes of two different types of fabric? Do you eat shellfish?

Why would being gay be a sin? Do you believe God makes gay people just to torment them and send them to hell?



Kids see couples kiss and show affection in kids tv shows and films ALL THE TIME. It is normal to understand as a 9 year old that people can romantically love each other. I don't see the problem of them knowing that same sex couples also love each other. Nothing sexual about that.



Oh they've changed it again? I thought it was the chorus of "Believe" by Cher ;)
[doublepost=1529991143][/doublepost]Ok, just eanted to share this text from the Bible. Remember, God is the creator of the family, not government. Good govermnents would follow God, but we live in a corrupted world. I am not spreading hate or anything like that. I have gay friend and like him, respect him as a person, but still openly saying he lives a sinful life. Family is only a union between man and woman. No certificates will changed in God’s mind. He said it.

“The LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man. The man said, "This is now bone of my bones, And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man." For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:22-25‬

Problem is people did not want to glorify God and live by His word:

“For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:26-32‬



The bible, yes. However it's pretty apparent that the only belief you posses is beleif that you have belief.

And that's an important distinction; your posts here have made it abundantly clear that your belief is actually somewhat hollow. Like the other chap who's been around here on MR you are quick to throw out the wishy-washy lines but have no courage in your convictions to actually back them up.

To wit, you state it's a fact that marriage is between man and woman. It's not. A fact is something provable. I am married to my wife. I am female. We have a marriage certificate, we file jointly. We are, in the eyes of the law, a married couple.

ergo, your statement has now been proven to be factually wrong.

I've challenged you multiple times to justify your belief; apparently your belief is lacking. A true believer would have challenged me, a true believer would have countered my arguments with a theological discussion on language and meaning.

You however...crickets...
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Oh the bible probably will, but like it has for the past 2000 years, Christianity will change with the times. It already has. Some denominations even allow women priests!
Sure, but it doesn’t change the truth of the Bible:)
[doublepost=1529991268][/doublepost]I do not leave in US:)

Except it's not a fact at all.
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You don't seem to value living in a Free Country. Please leave.
 
Here is a New Testament for you. Being religious does’t mean living a godly life.

“For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:25-32‬



[doublepost=1529991143][/doublepost]Ok, just eanted to share this text from the Bible. Remember, God is the creator of the family, not government. Good govermnents would follow God, but we live in a corrupted world. I am not spreading hate or anything like that. I have gay friend and like him, respect him as a person, but still openly saying he lives a sinful life. Family is only a union between man and woman. No certificates will changed in God’s mind. He said it.

“The LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man. The man said, "This is now bone of my bones, And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man." For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:22-25‬

Problem is people did not want to glorify God and live by His word:

“For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:26-32‬




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Sure, but it doesn’t change the truth of the Bible:)
[doublepost=1529991268][/doublepost]I do not leave in US:)

I, like the other two thirds of people around the globe, am not Christian so your words mean no more to me than they do to a Buddhist, Sikh, Hindu etc - or to all other atheists like me.
 
I, like the other two thirds of people around the globe, am not Christian so your words mean no more to me than they do to a Buddhist, Sikh, Hindu etc - or to all other atheists like me.
Sure, I do understand. People might choose not to believe in gravity, but it doesn’t mean it is not there.
 
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