Apple Celebrates Pride in San Francisco Parade

[bandrews]

Everyone understands that the engineering departments and marketing departments are separate right?

I don’t think their is anything a gay person can’t do a straight sex person can’t do.. yet still they carry on.

When LGBT people are no longer beaten up/sacked/refused service/murdered JUST for being LGBT, THEN maybe we can stop "carrying on".

 

[sirozha]

How can a straight person (guy or girl) work for Apple anymore? Imagine receiving a corporate email announcing the Apple’s participation in the 2018 LGBTQ parade. What goes on in the back of a straight person’s mind? “I really don’t want to do this, but I have a dream job, a family, a couple car payments, and a mortgage. If I don’t go, my career is goong nowhere. So, I have to bite the bullet and go. I have to take selfies with my boss and his boss and, hopefully, a few execs and post them on my social media to make sure everyone knows that I participated and had a lot of fun.”

What is this if not the new liberal establishment shoving their agenda down the throats of the people who hold traditional views and who want to guard their families from this new reality? Is this new reality for the better? Is the LGBTQ agenda a new Civil Rights frontier? Am I a bigot for wanting my eight-year-old son to appreciate the rainbow as a message from God in the sky and not as a message from the LGBTQ community on flags, shirts, watch bands, and watch faces? Am I wrong trying to keep him away from falling a victim to the LGBTQ propaganda like over 50% of American teenagers who have already fallen a victim to it? After all, over 50% of American teenagers identify themselves as gender neutral now, and this has happened to some of my nephews and nieces. Their parents (my siblings) now wish they had intervened earlier and not let the LGBTQ “village” indoctrinate their kids’ young minds. It’s too late for them now as their kids are experimenting with the LGBTQ lifestyles.

 

[Ploki]

How can a straight person (guy or girl) work for Apple anymore? Imagine receiving a corporate email announcing the Apple’s participation in the 2018 LGBTQ parade. What’s goes on in the back of a straight person’s mind? “I really don’t want to do this, but I have a dream job, a family, a couple car payments, and a mortgage. If I don’t go, my career is goong nowhere. So, I have to bite the bullet and go. I have to take selfies with my boss and his boss and, hopefully, a few execs and post them on my social media to make sure everyone knows that I participated and had a lot of fun.”

What is this if not the new liberal establishment shoving their agenda down the throats of the people who hold traditional views and who want to guard their families from this new reality? Is this new reality for the better? Is the LGBTQ agenda a new Civil Rights frontier? Am I a bigot for wanting my eight-year-old son to appreciate the rainbow as a message from God in the sky and not as a message from the LGBTQ community on flags, shirts, watch bands, and watch faces? Am I wrong trying to keep him away from becoming a victim to the LGBTQ propaganda like over 50% of American teenagers who have already fallen a victim to it? After all, over 50% of American teenagers identify themselves as gender neutral now, and this has happened to some of my nephews and nieces. Their parents (my siblings) now wish they had intervened earlier and not let the LGBTQ “village” indoctrinate their kids’ young minds. It’s too late for them now as their kids are experimenting with the LGBTQ lifestyles.

oh know, someone is fighting for someone elses rights im so offended.

you baby boomers are too much, pretty much ruined this planet.

 

[MOFS]

Do you REALLY think Tim Cook personally “does Mac updates?” Do you REALLY think he somehow personally organized Apple’s staff and their spot in Pride? Do you know anything at all about job functions, departments, or corporate structure? And finally, can you please entertain us and tell us exactly how many computers Steve Jobs personally engineered and/or built?

Do you REALLY think Tim Cook personally “does Mac updates?” Do you REALLY think he somehow personally organized Apple’s staff and their spot in Pride? Do you know anything at all about job functions, departments, or corporate structure? And finally, can you please entertain us and tell us exactly how many computers Steve Jobs personally engineered and/or built?

Er I appreciate sarcasm is famously difficult to convey over the internet but my post was a retort to those in this thread who conflate Apple’s support for issues like gay rights, blaming it for delays in new Macs/ battery issues/ iOS being less snappy.

 

[sirozha]

It's a private company last time I checked. I thought since the right-wingers love them free markets they would be happy if corporations did what they wanted? Oh, wait, this is not the case. Freedom of speech and expression ends for right wingers as soon as they get the taste of their own medicine.

I don’t know when you last checked, but Apple is not a private company. It’s been a public corporation for many decades.

 

[TiggrToo]

1. Anyone ever notice how no-one gives a jot about the time and money spent in parades such as St Patricks Day or Macy's Thanksgiving Day? Nope, apparently it's only Pride that folk feel the need to express themselves in a negative way.

2. I hold a key position in the company I work at; my company was the prime sponsor of this years Pride and I had a terrific time marching at the head of the march. I spent only 1.5 hours in total attending meetings about Pride this year and still managed to do another 6 hours of work this weekend, even after. So no, Pride didn't distract key personal of my company so anyone who thinks that Apples Developers, designers and other engineers were horribly mismanaged as a result, is way off the beaten track. Is this a direct 1:1 correlation with Apple, no, but it is a close approximation and enough to remind folk that most attendees do very very little preparation and the vast majority of time spent is on the day itself.

Last I checked Apple had well over 25,000 employees working in the area. If they had any more than 1,000 in the parade I'd be surprised and almost certainly the group that put it together were back office types folks.

So I wish everyone here who's going off all negative would stop going off all crazy and just think about the realities of all this.

 

[TiggrToo]

How can a straight person (guy or girl) work for Apple anymore?

Are you for real? Wow....

 

[sirozha]

Are you for real? Wow....

I’m absolutely for real. I would not want to work for a company that officially participates in an LGBTQ parade just like I wouldn’t want to work for a company that officially supports a political party or a religious movement. In any of these scenarios, employees have to grapple with the corporate political or religious agenda imposed on them being in conflict with their personal beliefs.

I have no problem with Tim Cook participating in this event as a private citizen, but I absolity abhor his making this into the official Apple policy.

 

[Xgm541]

- Designing mobile chips that is arguable the most efficient one to date.
- Designing a family of mobile chips to complement the bet in mobile (Sx, Wx, etc).
- Designing biometric security rivaling Hollywood motion capture in a size of your pocket (FaceID)
- Designing AR ecosystem, complete with mobile APIs and software+hardware integration
Just to name a few.

Steve Jobs removed "computer" from the company's name long time ago. Apple is a technology company, not a PC company.
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Apple is a publicly traded company. If Tim Cook wasn't a good CEO, the board of directors would've voted him out. No secrets here, it's the same as any publicly traded companies.

I am sure all the "I hate Tim cook" and "Steve wouldn't allow this" folk are going to definitely use their super large stock options (rather than large mouths) to vote Tim out. Right?

So much bigotry in this thread.

 

[Xgm541]

I’m absolutely for real. I would not want to work for a company that officially participates in an LGBTQ parade just like I wouldn’t want to work for a company that officially supports a political party or a religious movement. In any of these scenarios, employees have to grapple with the corporate political or religious agenda imposed on them being in conflict with their personal beliefs.

I have no problem with Tim Cook participating in this event as a private citizen, but I absolity abhor his making this into the official Apple policy.

"I abhor Tim cook or any ceo for supporting human rights"

 

[bandrews]

How can a straight person (guy or girl) work for Apple anymore? Imagine receiving a corporate email announcing the Apple’s participation in the 2018 LGBTQ parade. What’s goes on in the back of a straight person’s mind? “I really don’t want to do this, but I have a dream job, a family, a couple car payments, and a mortgage. If I don’t go, my career is goong nowhere. So, I have to bite the bullet and go. I have to take selfies with my boss and his boss and, hopefully, a few execs and post them on my social media to make sure everyone knows that I participated and had a lot of fun.”

What is this if not the new liberal establishment shoving their agenda down the throats of the people who hold traditional views and who want to guard their families from this new reality? Is this new reality for the better? Is the LGBTQ agenda a new Civil Rights frontier? Am I a bigot for wanting my eight-year-old son to appreciate the rainbow as a message from God in the sky and not as a message from the LGBTQ community on flags, shirts, watch bands, and watch faces? Am I wrong trying to keep him away from becoming a victim to the LGBTQ propaganda like over 50% of American teenagers who have already fallen a victim to it? After all, over 50% of American teenagers identify themselves as gender neutral now, and this has happened to some of my nephews and nieces. Their parents (my siblings) now wish they had intervened earlier and not let the LGBTQ “village” indoctrinate their kids’ young minds. It’s too late for them now as their kids are experimenting with the LGBTQ lifestyles.

Right, so first up, a rainbow is not a message from god - it is light being refracted by water droplets. Science.

Secondly. Seriously? You think LGBT propaganda turns kids gay? Because straight propaganda and homophobia for the first 18 years of my life didn't turn me straight, just made me want to kill myself.

 

[Ploki]

I’m absolutely for real. I would not want to work for a company that officially participates in an LGBTQ parade just like I wouldn’t want to work for a company that officially supports a political party or a religious movement. In any of these scenarios, employees have to grapple with the corporate political or religious agenda imposed on them being in conflict with their personal beliefs.

I have no problem with Tim Cook participating in this event as a private citizen, but I absolity abhor his making this into the official Apple policy.

Human rights is not a political or religious movement.

Really, i hope you dont work for Apple or any company which products I personally buy because anyone who has issues with basic human rights in any way (i dont care about your semantic gymnastics) can't really be a decent person, or is brainwashed beyond redemption

 

[TiggrToo]

I’m absolutely for real. I would not want to work for a company that officially participates in an LGBTQ parade just like I wouldn’t want to work for a company that officially supports a political party or a religious movement. In any of these scenarios, employees have to grapple with the corporate political or religious agenda imposed on them being in conflict with their personal beliefs.

I have no problem with Tim Cook participating in this event as a private citizen, but I absolity abhor his making this into the official Apple policy.

I was asking because apparently you think you speak on behalf of all straight people. You don't.

The majority of Americans support gays and lesbians.

 

[sirozha]

I was asking because apparently you think you speak on behalf of all straight people. You don't.

The majority of Americans support gays and lesbians.

I’m only speaking on my own behalf unlike you, as you obviously think you speak for the majority of straight people.

I support legalization of pot. I don’t want my child to ever try it. I would vote for legalization of pot but I would never march in a Pothead Pride Parade. I have the same exact approach to the LGBTQ movement. Let them have all the same rights, including marriage, but don’t shove their lifestyle down my throat.

 

[Ploki]

I support legalization of pot. I don’t want my child to ever try it.

you have children?

*rip* your children

 

[bandrews]

I support legalization of pot. I don’t want my child to ever try it.

Your children get to choose if they try pot.

They don’t choose their sexuality.
Neither do you choose their sexuality - but you do get to **** them up in the head if you try.

 

[Xgm541]

I’m only speaking on my own behalf unlike you, as you obviously think you speak for the majority of straight people.

I support legalization of pot. I don’t want my child to ever try it. I would vote for legalization of pot but I would never march in a Pothead Pride Parade. I have the same exact approach to the LGBTQ movement. Let them have all the same rights, including marriage, but don’t shove their lifestyle down my throat.

"I support the LGBT movement but not enough to not get raged because a company with presumably a large gay workforce decided to show their support for those workers"

Next week is July 4th. I'm wondering if your company is giving you the day off so you can celebrate. I bet you'll still show up at work though so as to not politicize it?

 

[sirozha]

Human rights is not a political or religious movement.

Really, i hope you dont work for Apple or any company which products I personally buy because anyone who has issues with basic human rights in any way (i dont care about your semantic gymnastics) can't really be a decent person, or is brainwashed beyond redemption

A CEO of a publicly traded company turning his own social, political,
or religious agenda into a company policy has nothing to do with human rights.
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"I support the LGBT movement but not enough to not get raged because a company with presumably a large gay workforce decided to show their support for those workers"

Exactly.

 

[Planey28]

How can a straight person (guy or girl) work for Apple anymore? Imagine receiving a corporate email announcing the Apple’s participation in the 2018 LGBTQ parade. What goes on in the back of a straight person’s mind? “I really don’t want to do this, but I have a dream job, a family, a couple car payments, and a mortgage. If I don’t go, my career is goong nowhere. So, I have to bite the bullet and go. I have to take selfies with my boss and his boss and, hopefully, a few execs and post them on my social media to make sure everyone knows that I participated and had a lot of fun.”

What is this if not the new liberal establishment shoving their agenda down the throats of the people who hold traditional views and who want to guard their families from this new reality? Is this new reality for the better? Is the LGBTQ agenda a new Civil Rights frontier? Am I a bigot for wanting my eight-year-old son to appreciate the rainbow as a message from God in the sky and not as a message from the LGBTQ community on flags, shirts, watch bands, and watch faces? Am I wrong trying to keep him away from falling a victim to the LGBTQ propaganda like over 50% of American teenagers who have already fallen a victim to it? After all, over 50% of American teenagers identify themselves as gender neutral now, and this has happened to some of my nephews and nieces. Their parents (my siblings) now wish they had intervened earlier and not let the LGBTQ “village” indoctrinate their kids’ young minds. It’s too late for them now as their kids are experimenting with the LGBTQ lifestyles.

Yes, you are wrong for all of those points.

The irony that you talk about indoctrination when you want to indoctrinate society into your views.

I doubt many people at Apple are frightened and angry by a corporate email regarding Apple’s participation in pride.

I feel sorry for your younger relatives. By the sounds of it, the older members of your family are the reason Pride is important. Let that sink in.

Rainbows are also not a “message from God”.

 

[Xgm541]

A CEO of a publicly traded company turning his own social, political,
or religious agenda into a company policy has nothing to do with human rights.
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Exactly.

You clearly didn't get the sarcasm in my post.

 

[sirozha]

Your children get to choose if they try pot.

They don’t choose their sexuality.
Neither do you choose their sexuality - but you do get to **** them up in the head if you try.

Or yes, they do get to choose their sexuality in most cases.

Statistically, LGBTQ people are a small percentage of a general population. How did more than 50% of teenagers get to identify themselves as gender neutral? Are you saying Tim Cook is wasting the company resources making rainbow watch faces and rainbow watch bands? I don’t think so.

"I support the LGBT movement but not enough to not get raged because a company with presumably a large gay workforce decided to show their support for those workers"

Next week is July 4th. I'm wondering if your company is giving you the day off so you can celebrate. I bet you'll still show up at work though so as to not politicize it?

Try again.

 

[TiggrToo]

I’m only speaking on my own behalf unlike you, as you obviously think you speak for the majority of straight people.

I support legalization of pot. I don’t want my child to ever try it. I would vote for legalization of pot but I would never march in a Pothead Pride Parade. I have the same exact approach to the LGBTQ movement. Let them have all the same rights, including marriage, but don’t shove their lifestyle down my throat.

I speaking of statistics, pure and simple. As of 2015 60% of Americans supported Same Sex Marriage. Now, unless you want to try and convince us that somehow basic support of gays and lesbians is magically less than that number, that shows that the majority of Americans support gays and lesbians.

You can argue this as much as you want, but the raw data does not support your sentiment.

 

[Heineken]

"I abhor Tim cook or any ceo for supporting human rights"

There is no such thing as human right. It's a construct, an agreement between parties, not a right.

 

[TiggrToo]

Or yes, they do get to choose their sexuality in most cases.

Statistically, LGBTQ people are a small percentage of a general population. How did more than 50% of teenagers get to identify themselves as gender neutral? Are you saying Tim Cook is wasting the company resources making rainbow watch faces and rainbow watch bands? I don’t think so.

Try again.

When did you gain your medical degree? I ask because you must have one to be able to make such a determination...

 

[sirozha]

You clearly didn't get the sarcasm in my post.

You are the one who doesn’t get sarcasm. I guess it was just a little too intense this time.
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When did you gain your medical degree? I ask because you must have one to be able to make such a determination...

One doesn’t have to have a medical degree to notice an anomaly.
[doublepost=1529925657][/doublepost]You don’t get the point. Supporting someone else’s right to a lifestyle is quite different from endorsing their lifestyle.