Become a MacRumors Supporter for $25/year with no ads, private forums, and more!

MacRumors

macrumors bot
Original poster
Apr 12, 2001
52,093
13,710



Hundreds of chief executive officers, chief operating officers, chairmen, presidents, and other business leaders have added their signatures to an open letter asking President Trump to preserve the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

The program protects young adults brought illegally into the U.S. -- called "Dreamers" -- and grants them the "basic opportunity to work and study without the threat of deportation," through the opportunity of gaining legal work permits (via Recode).

19385-19730-czquuifvqaew02p-l.jpg

Signatories include Apple CEO Tim Cook, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, Netflix CEO Reed Hastings, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, Google CEO Sundar Pichai, Emerson Collective President Laurene Powell Jobs, and many more.

Trump is expected to announce a policy change today in regards to DACA, where it's believed that under the new policy the government will cease granting work permits to new Dreamers entering the U.S. Current Dreamers will reportedly be able to stay in the country until their permits run out, but would then find themselves unable to renew their work authorizations.

That would allow the nearly 800,000 individuals currently protected under DACA to remain in the U.S. for around two years, but the new letter implores Trump and the U.S. government to preserve DACA entirely.
Unless we act now to preserve the DACA program, all 780,000 hardworking young people will lose their ability to work legally in this country, and every one of them will be at immediate risk of deportation. Our economy would lose $460.3 billion from the national GDP and $24.6 billion in Social Security and Medicare tax contributions.
Dreamers are vital to the future of our companies and our economy. With them, we grow and create jobs. They are part of why we will continue to have a global competitive advantage.
Immigration and work-visa programs have been a hot topic between technology companies and the new Trump administration throughout 2017. The new letter ends with a call on Congress to pass legislation that "provides these young people raised in our country the permanent solution they deserve." You can read the full letter right here.

Note: Due to the political nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Politics, Religion, Social Issues forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.

Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook and Other Leaders Sign Letter Asking Trump to Protect DACA Program
 

Sunny1990

Suspended
Feb 13, 2015
1,660
5,195
Edit :- Good move by Tim Cook for supporting DACA program. According to the Article There are 780,000 hardworking young people who will lose their ability to work legally in this country which is not Good. We are a national made stronger by skilled immigrants.
 
Last edited:
Comment

2010mini

macrumors 601
Jun 19, 2013
4,507
4,486
So what happens to these people if DACA is rescinded? It would be next to impossible to round up 800k people and transport them out of the US. If they are gainfully employed or are in school/skilled programme.... why not leave them alone?
 
  • Like
Reactions: juanjohnjean
Comment

IPPlanMan

macrumors 6502
Dec 25, 2009
365
1,482
They can apply to become citizens like everyone else. Get in line folks. It's what's fair to those who came here legally and through the established legal process.

If they're smart enough, they'll be able to "dream" in their country of origin.

Perhaps Apple could hire them there and stop virtue signaling.
 
Comment

alexgowers

macrumors 65816
Jun 3, 2012
1,336
890
However you slice this issue. Companies who have hired those individuals are going to loose out on talent. These are probably American educated and mostly raised at the cost the tax payer individuals, then you want to send/force em back? Sounds a lot like cutting your nose off to spite the face. All these anti authoritarian guys actually want more government control and interference and this is another double standard in an increasingly dictatorial strategy.

It's policy to separate divide and conquer. Apple and all should be pushing back, if they weren't I'd be super concerned.
 
Comment

Kaibelf

Suspended
Apr 29, 2009
2,445
7,441
Silicon Valley, CA
Yet the President that was elected ran on a 'tighten the borders' ticket'. Sorry rich boys, you lose.

Rich boys? I'm not rich and I don't think it's at all appropriate to do this to nearly a million young people who couldn't help being brought here as babies/toddlers and don't know any other place and very likely speak English much more readily than Spanish. Why would any good person be happy to throw these people out? I guess I have a different stance, being raised as a Christian rather than being a self-focused heir to the money changers.
 
Comment

akadafni

macrumors regular
Nov 8, 2015
229
162
I'm on the fence. I do feel that we need better border and immigration controls. On the other hand I think that trying to send thousands of essentially young adults who have no idea what it's like to actually live in their country of origin. It becomes almost a humanitarian issue. Sending folks back could cause more illegal entry. No easy solutions here.

I guess what I would like to know is what are immigrants (legal or otherwise) doing in or for their country of origin so that they can return and creste a better life there?
 
Comment

IPPlanMan

macrumors 6502
Dec 25, 2009
365
1,482
Rich boys? I'm not rich and I don't think it's at all appropriate to do this to nearly a million young people who couldn't help being brought here as babies/toddlers and don't know any other place and very likely speak English much more readily than Spanish. Why would any good person be happy to throw these people out? I guess I have a different stance, being raised as a Christian rather than being a self-focused heir to the money changers.

Are you referring to Jewish people when you say money changers?.... because that's the origin of the term.

https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/jews-and-money-the-slur-that-refuses-to-die-1.442389
 
Comment

Kaibelf

Suspended
Apr 29, 2009
2,445
7,441
Silicon Valley, CA
Are you referring to Jewish people when you say money changers?.... because that's the origin of the term.

https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/jews-and-money-the-slur-that-refuses-to-die-1.442389

No, I'm referring to anyone whose table Jesus would have flipped of any faith for caring more about their personal money than the people around them who needed help. Also, last I heard not all Jews, ancient or otherwise, consist of rich people and bankers. Nice try though.
 
Comment

Ca$hflow

macrumors 6502
Jan 7, 2010
447
67
London, ON
I'm on the fence. I do feel that we need better border and immigration controls. On the other hand I think that trying to send thousands of essentially young adults who have no idea what it's like to actually live in their country of origin. It becomes almost a humanitarian issue. Sending folks back could cause more illegal entry. No easy solutions here.

I guess what I would like to know is what are immigrants (legal or otherwise) doing in or for their country of origin so that they can return and creste a better life there?


Let me help. These young people came here as toddlers and babies. They went through the education system that we as tax payers have paid for and invested in. Now a bunch of stupid politicians want to send them back!? What the hell. Keep these kids with HUGE potential that they have gained through education and become big contributors to society. This is bigger than politicians repackaging it as bad illegal immigrants. This complex and subtle problem requires a complex and subtle solution. NOT some inconsistent glory seeking populist orifice president presenting an oversimplified approach with no social study experience. This is a humanitarian and social issue NOT a business issue.
 
Comment

IPPlanMan

macrumors 6502
Dec 25, 2009
365
1,482
No, I'm referring to anyone whose table Jesus would have flipped of any faith for caring more about their personal money than the people around them who needed help. Also, last I heard not all Jews, ancient or otherwise, consist of rich people and bankers. Nice try though.

I didn't have to try anything. It's clear what you meant. You didn't expect to be called on it. Nice try though.
 
Comment

jlasoon

macrumors 6502a
Jun 1, 2006
505
627
Orlando, FL
It doesn't matter what these morons do, DACA is dead unless congress intervenes. 9 states have already said that they'll sue the Feds over this program. And everyone of every stripe knows this program won't last 10 seconds in court. Trump knows this and the DOJ knows this.

It's over!
 
  • Like
Reactions: manni and jdillings
Comment

jlasoon

macrumors 6502a
Jun 1, 2006
505
627
Orlando, FL
Let me help. These young people came here as toddlers and babies. They went through the education system that we as tax payers have paid for and invested in. Now a bunch of stupid politicians want to send them back!? What the hell. Keep these kids with HUGE potential that they have gained through education and become big contributors to society. This is bigger than politicians repackaging it as bad illegal immigrants. This complex and subtle problem requires a complex and subtle solution. NOT some inconsistent glory seeking populist orifice president presenting an oversimplified approach with no social study experience. This is a humanitarian and social issue NOT a business issue.

Your feelings don't matter! Trust me, this only gets worst for everybody if this goes to court. DACA is unconstitutional and EVERY damn lawyer, governor & politico knows this. You can't fight this!
 
  • Like
Reactions: manni and jdillings
Comment

BruiserBear

macrumors 6502a
Jul 24, 2008
565
463
The only joke was the jobs obama was losing for this country

Are you old enough to remember what was happening in the fall of 2008? Because you should really educate yourself on these topics before posting images like that making yourself look so foolish. The U.S financial system went nuclear in 2008, after 8 years of George W Bush being president. Obama was sworn in January of 2009 with the economy in a total death spiral, so of course jobs were being lost left and right during that first year of his term. No president has ever been sworn in during a worse situation. In the following 7 years under Obama, the economy continued to improve and add many millions of jobs back, so whoever you're listening to on this type of information you should probably stop asap.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007–2008
 
Comment

ThisIsNotMe

Suspended
Aug 11, 2008
1,849
1,062
Now is a perfect time for Conservatives and Centrist to compromise with the Left.

Grant DACA applicants a legal limited form of legal status in exchange for funding for a border wall, statutory elimination of any future amnesty, and elimination of birth right citizenship for children of illegal aliens.

Both sides get what they want.
 
  • Like
Reactions: augustrushrox
Comment
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.