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Apple CEO Tim Cook: 'Apple's Most Important Contribution to Mankind' Will Be in Health

ipponrg said:
Funny how negativity attracts you back to this forum. Are you sure you aren't negative yourself? :)
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I am very negative, but I try to be less so. But negativity is not what attracts me to this forum. I come here because this is what I would consider to still be one of the best Apple forums on the internet.

When I say this site is too negative, I’m not pretending that I’m Suzy Sunshine. It feels like it’s easier to find a thread here about how everything sucks, which frustrates me, than the things that are good. And it feels to me every time somebody posts something positive, people have a response about how good things aren’t good enough.
 
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joueboy said:
As far as I'm concern most people I know that wears Apple Watch are not very active people. I know people that wears Garmin fitness tracker are all runners and very active and almost half of the people I know that wears Fitbit every now and then runs marathon mostly 5K. So Timmy claiming he contributed to health with Apple Watch is like McDonalds claiming they're feeding the hungry people. Apple Watch is cool it has nice features but more on fashion but those who want a smartwatch and fitness tracker.
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This is an over generalization. My son is a marathoner and wears an Apple Watch. Your circle sounds like it’s different than my circle.
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joueboy said:
That's exactly my point it's not Apple or Timmy to claim how they contributed to people's health the device may aided you but still it's up to you if you wanna do something about it. Marathon organizers has more credibility to claim they have contributed to health than Apple. But then it's Tim Cook we're talking about here nothing but publicity and marketing stunt that comes out of his mouth.
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Apple Watch has received a de novo classification from the fda. It’s the first mass market device to potentially catch afib and take an ecg. Afib is a serious disease with long term consequences. So yeah if the watch catches something and prompts a doctor visit that ultimately saves your life, then Tim is right on the money.
 
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sdwaltz said:
Thank. You.

Most of the people here are absolutely impossible to please...you can take a freaking ECG FROM YOUR FINGERTIP. If that doesn’t impress you, what will?
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Hmmm, I'll rattle off a few:
  1. A keyboard on a $4,500 (AUD) computer that doesn't **** the bed
  2. A phone without a camera bump
  3. A pro laptop without a touchbar
  4. A pro laptop with ports that allow a pro workflow
  5. Magsafe
  6. A phone that doesn't slip out my hands
  7. A phone that truly allows one handed use
  8. A phone with a headphone jack
I could go on. Most of these aren't even impressive. In fact most of them are things they've done in the past and have regressed on for the sake of "innovation" and "courage".
 
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Michael Goff said:
I am very negative, but I try to be less so. But negativity is not what attracts me to this forum. I come here because this is what I would consider to still be one of the best Apple forums on the internet.

When I say this site is too negative, I’m not pretending that I’m Suzy Sunshine. It feels like it’s easier to find a thread here about how everything sucks, which frustrates me, than the things that are good. And it feels to me every time somebody posts something positive, people have a response about how good things aren’t good enough.
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This has one of the oldest Apple BBS communities. I've been visiting since 2001, but I never signed up till I had a question. You're visiting the wrong section if you're looking for positivity. The news here has always been toxic even back then, but you will find the other sub forums to be more "positive". With the direction that Apple is currently going, News and Rumors might not be the place where you want to be to see optimism.

With that being said, the spread of negativity is anecdotal of course but has merit. People are upset. With rising prices, Apple hasn't met the needs of those people as much as before despite still spending. The people that frequent this site and participate in these forums are commiserating, and that is the general trend even amongst bloggers and the tech community globally. It doesn't help that the same people keep adding fuel to the fire by shoving Tim Cook / profits / "data" down other people's throats.

I find the above the humorous part about this forum particularly. It's interesting to hear both sides as they argue/flame/converse with each other.
 
KPandian1 said:
He has done this before; now, he has done it again!

The great Physician Doctor Saviour Tim Cook M.D.

AW with the ECG is great, but don't rush to glorify yourselves Tim, nowhere near that noble profession's contribution to mankind!
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He didn't even imply that.
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centauratlas said:
I do agree that in the future the health functions could be really important with some caveats:
1. They MUST maintain each person's privacy so that information doesn't leave the watch/phone unless it is encrypted or UNLESS the person specifically shares it. No one wants a hack and have all their information out there.
2. Real-time alerts, like the fall alert, will be important, but they are just at the baby stages now. e.g. real time calling 911 if a heart attack is detected. Diabetes etc. All have tremendous potential.

Hopefully Apple reaches that potential.
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I finally got a series four because unfortunately I'm a fall risk and live alone. One huge advantage over most other dedicated devices is it works outside the home.
 
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ipponrg said:
This has one of the oldest Apple BBS communities. I've been visiting since 2001, but I never signed up till I had a question. You're visiting the wrong section if you're looking for positivity. The news here has always been toxic even back then, but you will find the other sub forums to be more "positive". With the direction that Apple is currently going, News and Rumors might not be the place where you want to be to see optimism.

With that being said, the spread of negativity is anecdotal of course but has merit. People are upset. With rising prices, Apple hasn't met the needs of those people as much as before despite still spending. The people that frequent this site and participate in these forums are commiserating, and that is the general trend even amongst bloggers and the tech community globally. It doesn't help that the same people keep adding fuel to the fire by shoving Tim Cook / profits / "data" down other people's throats.

I find the above the humorous part about this forum particularly. It's interesting to hear both sides as they argue/flame/converse with each other.
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And that’s why Apple users are also going to the Alternatives forum and starting arguments there, because of frustration at Apple prices. Or maybe you just assumed I was talking about this section specifically and about people being negative about Apple specifically.
 
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ipponrg said:
Funny how negativity attracts you back to this forum. Are you sure you aren't negative yourself? :)
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I’m not negative
I think that Cook is the best pretender we can have (humble guy, just thinking in the customers’ interest, frantically striving for better cost prices with Quarrelcomm) :eek:
Now actually he’s a little underpaid for his Contributions to Mankind - but that might be linked to a suicide strategy of a mass provisioner reaching out for the rich upper class, where the competition has become better and more affordable.
 
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Michael Goff said:
I notice that a lot of his problems are “but what if ...”
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I didn't get that. I trust a lot of what he said and his concerns are valid.
Apple is marketing the health features of the watch as a panacea which it is not.
But I guess you wouldn't expect a company to list all the issues with its product.

Don't you agree that the watch could turn someone in to a patient unnecessarily?
 
dilbert99 said:
I didn't get that. I trust a lot of what he said and his concerns are valid.
Apple is marketing the health features of the watch as a panacea which it is not.
But I guess you wouldn't expect a company to list all the issues with its product.

Don't you agree that the watch could turn someone in to a patient unnecessarily?
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Maybe, but only if they ignore what the Apple Watch says. He brings up a single time, for example, when I’m pretty sure you have to have a few before the watch says you should go to see a doctor.
 
Why should
'Apple's Most Important Contribution to Mankind'
(quote Tim Cook)

be in "heath" when providing a platform from which other people can build upon and do better than what you can evisidse is surely better even when the end-product lands outside of the Apple eco-system?

Or lets parse what Tim Cook is sayng:

"believe in me; you need Apple"

No we don't
 
TracesOfArsenic said:
Hmmm, I'll rattle off a few:
  1. A keyboard on a $4,500 (AUD) computer that doesn't **** the bed
  2. A phone without a camera bump
  3. A pro laptop without a touchbar
  4. A pro laptop with ports that allow a pro workflow
  5. Magsafe
  6. A phone that doesn't slip out my hands
  7. A phone that truly allows one handed use
  8. A phone with a headphone jack
I could go on. Most of these aren't even impressive. In fact most of them are things they've done in the past and have regressed on for the sake of "innovation" and "courage".
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1) Doesn't really have anything to do with innovation, but you are right in that it is unacceptable. That said, mine hasn't had any issues (yet).
2) I don't know why anyone has an issue with the "camera bump". I actually think it looks good. Most cases remedy this issue anyway.
3) They offer two without. Why the hate for the touch bar?
4) USBC is incredibly versatile.
5) Yeah, I miss magsafe, but it's not the end of the world.
6) That's your fault.
7) You can't use a 4.7" phone one-handed? I can use my XS Max one-handed and I'm a below-average sized male.
8) The 1920's called, it wants its technology back. Go wireless, you'll be glad you did.
 
......they will never top the MAC nor the IPHONE! ....all introduced by STEVE!!! ...but I believe they will ruin them...all by TIM.
 
AngerDanger said:
That's really nice, Tim. Here I am still having trouble getting my Apple Watch to detect even one of my hearts. :(

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Dude you've been reusing the same fake graphic for the past several months. It's not even funny anymore.
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sw1tcher said:
Sad how Tim Cook feels the need to go on tv to defend the company and products when there's bad news. Did Steve Jobs ever have to do that?
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Yes.
 
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Michael Goff said:
Maybe, but only if they ignore what the Apple Watch says. He brings up a single time, for example, when I’m pretty sure you have to have a few before the watch says you should go to see a doctor.
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That wasn't the point he was making. For the young Apples false positive rate was high and thus if they go to a doctor they could be a patient for life unnecessarily.
 
dilbert99 said:
That wasn't the point he was making. For the young Apples false positive rate was high and thus if they go to a doctor they could be a patient for life unnecessarily.
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He brought up the idea of a person going to see the doctor after a single time. That's something the Apple Watch actually says to not do.
 
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Michael Goff said:
I am very negative, but I try to be less so. But negativity is not what attracts me to this forum. I come here because this is what I would consider to still be one of the best Apple forums on the internet.

When I say this site is too negative, I’m not pretending that I’m Suzy Sunshine. It feels like it’s easier to find a thread here about how everything sucks, which frustrates me, than the things that are good. And it feels to me every time somebody posts something positive, people have a response about how good things aren’t good enough.
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People remember the bad things and never the good things...
You skip over all the positive messages that get no responses...
 
Michael Goff said:
And that’s why Apple users are also going to the Alternatives forum and starting arguments there, because of frustration at Apple prices. Or maybe you just assumed I was talking about this section specifically and about people being negative about Apple specifically.
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My only problem is this site doesn't seem to have moderators to get rid of off-topic conversations.
[doublepost=1547419695][/doublepost]Actually, my other problem with this site is the large number of fanboys who don't see any problems with any of Apple's products, UNTIL Apple fixes the problem, which is when the fanboys talk about how brilliant that fix is.

Apple has the best OS on mobile and desktop, IMHO, but their hardware decisions the last handful of years are very puzzling to me.

For the first time in a long time, they revised their revenue down. Their Mac market share has gone down. They should list to people like me. The negative people, or as I would call them, CUSTOMERS with constructive criticism.
 
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tallscot said:
My only problem is this site doesn't seem to have moderators to get rid of off-topic conversations.
[doublepost=1547419695][/doublepost]Actually, my other problem with this site is the large number of fanboys who don't see any problems with any of Apple's products, UNTIL Apple fixes the problem, which is when the fanboys talk about how brilliant that fix is.

Apple has the best OS on mobile and desktop, IMHO, but their hardware decisions the last handful of years are very puzzling to me.

For the first time in a long time, they revised their revenue down. Their Mac market share has gone down. They should list to people like me. The negative people, or as I would call them, CUSTOMERS with constructive criticism.
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You could have stopped with “a large number of fanboys”, let’s be real.
 
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Soccertess said:
Course they control the hardware and software! And you are saying that it would be impossible! So every other developer can make cross plateform software, but Apple can’t???
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Cross platform means less optimization. That is what happens when you choose to go cross platform.
 
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