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Of course he or she lost the adapters. I lose the adapter every time I use it and have to hunt for it.

Airliners will soon be falling out of the sky because of the number of iPhone lightning-to-3.5mm adapters that have fallen down between the seats...
 
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No, but if you don' t state your usecase of your headphones, why bother.
Yeah, it seems odd to challenge you about not understanding different use-cases and not offer an example.


I see it this way.
-Apple removes the headphone jack and includes an adapter to keep using the old headphones.
-you still buy this iphone 7 , fully knowing that it has no headphone jack.
-you loose this adapter 3 or more times because you keep losing it yourself.

And now a lot of people are b.tching about this, because they lack judgement and keep loosing their stuff themselves? And that is apple' s fault?
That is probably a result of the Apple reality distortion effect.

  • Apple produces a product.
  • It doesn't fit the person's needs but because Apple made it, it must meet their needs they just don't know it.
  • person buys product.
  • Product really doesn't fit their needs.
  • Complain about Apple.
 
I bypassed the 7 for the 6 because I’m not ready to drop the headphone jack. Dunno if I’ll be ready by the 8, but my 6 should still work fine. Maybe by the 9 I’ll reconsider . . . the 7.
 
Yeah, it seems odd to challenge you about not understanding different use-cases and not offer an example.



That is probably a result of the Apple reality distortion effect.

  • Apple produces a product.
  • It doesn't fit the person's needs but because Apple made it, it must meet their needs they just don't know it.
  • person buys product.
  • Product really doesn't fit their needs.
  • Complain about Apple.

Yes, apple' s fault, of course.... distortion field.... makes everyone a moron... shame on apple....

Usecase? It is a headphone jack, not a swiss army knife....
-connect it to an amp
-connect it in an aeroplane
-connect it to a laptop/pc
-connect it to a smartphone
-connect it to a tablet,
-etc.
So what is the problem , if you can' t take care of your stuff and loose things all the time to add a clamp you can easily remove?
 
The iPhone is a pocket computer. I don't see fanboys crying over the fact that they don't get a complete reimagining of the Mac every single year.

We do, in fact.

There's been lots of complaints over the stale design of some products such as the Mac Mini (still designed with space for an optical drive but hasn't featured one since 2011), the stale 2013-era specs of the Mac Pro, the MacBook Air that hasn't been changed since 2010.

All these products were groundbreaking design when they came out. Apple still sells them for the same price even though they are thirteen in a dozen now. That's the problem.
 
Most of this drivel makes no sense and is borderline trolling. Reported.
You sound like a sideline bullhorn in your monosyllabe analysis - and there is little (yet) for you to report as I am neither a troll nor an appeaser. Here's what I base my statements on:

supercapitalist boss => oversees largest corp in the world, herds largest mostly inactive capital reserve
Apple's burden: a mountain of money it can't really use | Technology ...
Fun Number; Apple Has Twice As Much Cash As The US Government
Apple has $203 billion in cash. Why? - Jul. 22, 2015 - CNN Money
falsely idolized => only because of his position, not his accomplishments
Is Tim Cook Apple's version of Steve Ballmer? Not even close – BGR
Apple's Tim Cook leads different | Fortune.com
that doesn't bring new designs => refurbed iPad in iPad 1 case, iPhone SE in 5 case, iPhone 7 in 3yr old 6 case
killed innovation => compare number of newly launched prod categories with SJ
almost killed off the whole CPU division => annihilated router, printer, monitor business
Apple kills wireless routers: Here are the alternatives for professionals ...
Apple Kills Thunderbolt Display: What's Next? - Tom's Guide
Apple Says It's Out of the Standalone Display Business - Slashdot
=> publicly stated that iPad will cannibalize Mac sales, both declining now
Apple's iPad Pro Finally Heralds The Post-PC Era: Tim Cook
Apple's Mac sales drop as the post-PC era comes to Cupertino - The ...
iPad sales keep shrinking — down another 20 percent - Recode
Apple iPad decline continues with 19 percent drop in holiday quarter
He is all about himself, his image, his ego => read daily appearances, travels, showcases, press records
Tim Cook Visits 'Kitchen Stories' Developers and Furniture Maker Dula ...
Apple CEO Tim Cook to Speak With Jim Cramer on CNBC's Mad Money Tonight
Tim Cook visits Apple supplier Dula in Germany as part of European tour
Nicola Sturgeon meets Apple CEO Tim Cook on California trip - The ...
his $200k lunch appointments (where others may fund his gratitude) => Apple CEO Tim Cook Auctions Charity Lunch at Apple Park
He is constantly busy with secondary subjects (the environment, (un-)equality, diversity) =>
Tim Cook tells climate change sceptics to ditch Apple shares ...
Apple's Tim Cook to join group of corporate leaders tackling Chinese ...
Tim Cook joins Weibo to announce new environmental projects for ...
Apple video narrated by Tim Cook advertises green power, not ...

at cost of his principal tasks: leadership of an innovative product driven company =>
Apple under Tim Cook: More socially responsible, less visionary - Aug ...
Get rid of Tim Cook: Analyst blames Apple's innovation slowdown on ...
Infographic: Apple's lack of innovation under Tim Cook's leadership ...
Apple's 'Fanatical' Attention to Detail Revealed in Apple Campus 2 ...

That leadership sadly has followers of the wrong kind - all over the company.
Designers that don't design => what's Ive's accomplishments over the last 3 years ? MacBook (Pro), Airpods. All other designs refurbed or ageing.
How Apple's Innovative Design Became Boring Design
Tech billionaire calls Apple 'outdated' and its product designs - BGR
This year's 'iPhone 7' will lack major design changes as Apple awaits ...
Engineers that don't develop new products. => engineerings acomplishments over the last 3 years ? AppleWatch/Airpods
Look at the aged product catalogue iPhone, iPad, Mac Buyer's Guide: Know When to Buy
Building Apple's New Campus Sounds Like a Damn Nightmare
Logistics and manufacturing people that don't forecast => Apple forecast misses estimates, casts shadow over holiday sales ...
Biggest problems facing Apple in 2017 | iMore
Software developers that have their creativity stalled and launch unstable OS releases. =>
Apple's new iOS 10 update causes major 'bricking' problems for ...
Apple has a serious problem with software quality | ZDNet
Apple iOS 10.2.1 Admits To Serious Problems - Forbes

if you have counter arguments, bring them in instead of cookooing (not referring to TC...) from the sideline without specifics
For the moment, I take your borderline diagnosis for what it is: undocumented amateurism.
 
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You sound like a sideline bullhorn in your monosyllabe analysis - and there is little (yet) for you to report as I am neither a troll nor an appeaser. Here's what I base my statements on:

supercapitalist boss => oversees largest corp in the world, herds largest mostly inactive capital reserve
Apple's burden: a mountain of money it can't really use | Technology ...
Fun Number; Apple Has Twice As Much Cash As The US Government
Apple has $203 billion in cash. Why? - Jul. 22, 2015 - CNN Money
falsely idolized => only because of his position, not his accomplishments
Is Tim Cook Apple's version of Steve Ballmer? Not even close – BGR
Apple's Tim Cook leads different | Fortune.com
that doesn't bring new designs => refurbed iPad in iPad 1 case, iPhone SE in 5 case, iPhone 7 in 3yr old 6 case
killed innovation => compare number of newly launched prod categories with SJ
almost killed off the whole CPU division => annihilated router, printer, monitor business
Apple kills wireless routers: Here are the alternatives for professionals ...
Apple Kills Thunderbolt Display: What's Next? - Tom's Guide
Apple Says It's Out of the Standalone Display Business - Slashdot
=> publicly stated that iPad will cannibalize Mac sales, both declining now
Apple's iPad Pro Finally Heralds The Post-PC Era: Tim Cook
Apple's Mac sales drop as the post-PC era comes to Cupertino - The ...
iPad sales keep shrinking — down another 20 percent - Recode
Apple iPad decline continues with 19 percent drop in holiday quarter
He is all about himself, his image, his ego => read daily appearances, travels, showcases, press records
Tim Cook Visits 'Kitchen Stories' Developers and Furniture Maker Dula ...
Apple CEO Tim Cook to Speak With Jim Cramer on CNBC's Mad Money Tonight
Tim Cook visits Apple supplier Dula in Germany as part of European tour
Nicola Sturgeon meets Apple CEO Tim Cook on California trip - The ...
his $200k lunch appointments (where others may fund his gratitude) => Apple CEO Tim Cook Auctions Charity Lunch at Apple Park
He is constantly busy with secondary subjects (the environment, (un-)equality, diversity) =>
Tim Cook tells climate change sceptics to ditch Apple shares ...
Apple's Tim Cook to join group of corporate leaders tackling Chinese ...
Tim Cook joins Weibo to announce new environmental projects for ...
Apple video narrated by Tim Cook advertises green power, not ...

at cost of his principal tasks: leadership of an innovative product driven company =>
Apple under Tim Cook: More socially responsible, less visionary - Aug ...
Get rid of Tim Cook: Analyst blames Apple's innovation slowdown on ...
Infographic: Apple's lack of innovation under Tim Cook's leadership ...
Apple's 'Fanatical' Attention to Detail Revealed in Apple Campus 2 ...

That leadership sadly has followers of the wrong kind - all over the company.
Designers that don't design => what's Ive's accomplishments over the last 3 years ? MacBook (Pro), Airpods. All other designs refurbed or ageing.
Engineers that don't develop new products. => engineerings acomplishments over the last 3 years ? AppleWatch/Airpods
Look at the aged product catalogue iPhone, iPad, Mac Buyer's Guide: Know When to Buy
Building Apple's New Campus Sounds Like a Damn Nightmare
Logistics and manufacturing people that don't forecast => Apple forecast misses estimates, casts shadow over holiday sales ...
Biggest problems facing Apple in 2017 | iMore
Software developers that have their creativity stalled and launch unstable OS releases. =>
Apple's new iOS 10 update causes major 'bricking' problems for ...
Apple has a serious problem with software quality | ZDNet
Apple iOS 10.2.1 Admits To Serious Problems - Forbes

if you have counter arguments, bring them in instead of cookooing (not referring to TC...) from the sideline without specifics
For the moment, I take your borderline diagnosis for what it is: undocumented amateurism.

So you lied about killing off the CPU business. And proceed to links that refer the rumored disbandment of the display and router teams.

That's not a CPU business. Do you know how computers work?

Besides, display team isn't disbanded, and most your assertions are speculation based, or just lies.

Anyone can bold text, make a lie/exaggerated speculation, then proceed to link an article that vaguely addresses such speculation.

Good luck with that hate train, it's not working.
 
Being first counts for a lot. But more importantly being first with something truly significant. Steve Jobs had an intuition about these things and he really could make magic happen if he was given the latitude to operate, which the board at Apple did give him, but now that he is gone.... there just doesn't seem to be anyone up to the task to replace him.

Jobs intuition was certainly appreciated during his time frame, but that is no longer a factor and certainly can't be factored in apples current stance today.

However, Again, what relevance does it serve for Apple to Be "First" for anything? It doesn't. Do you honestly think Apple (A 43 Billion dollar) Company hasn't considered the future possibilities of being first to release a product, with the intent to gain an advantage over the competitors?

What relevance does it have it Apple releases something before or later, clearly doesn't for a Company that manufactures 800,000 iPhones on a daily basis. Apple doesn't need to be the first to be in the market to have a premium/well-made product that works well and sells.

Was Apple the first to have a set of Bluetooth earbuds on the market? No. And look at the overall popularity with the Airpods being back order for six months. Was Apple the first to have a smart watch on the market? No. Look how well the Apple Watch has sold and more than doubled in sales since the last quarter.

Truthfully, you don't have much of an argument. Maybe ten years ago, I could see your point, but since Apple has changed since Jobs death, your beliefs are dated and Doesn't apply in today's Apple.
 
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This was said in 2012.
 
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You know, what has become way more annoying than the negative critiques of Apple's moves and performance over the past few years ...

... is the number of cliche artists who mock that criticism by making sarcastic 'Apple is doomed' posts.

First post that got my like in this thread.
 
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This was said in 2012.
Yes, but would we like it?
Apple uses leaks to their advantage too.
I certainly like the leaks and speculation. Exciting times.
But it is a shame most rumors seem too good to be true and usually are.
For the iphone 8, i don' t believe they will succeed putting touchid under the screen, and i don' t buy the hole in screen stuff for the speakers and camera's. Perhaps it will feature a part on top of the phone that has an area to the right and left that will be able to display content. But not an entire screen with holes in it.
 
Samsung get Android for free, Apple has to finance iOS.

Android is not "free" from doing any work, especially for a major player like Samsung.
  • Samsung has hundreds, if not thousands, of developers on staff to port, optimize and customize Android for each of its devices (of which it has many).
  • Samsung also has many developers creating custom apps to replace or augment stock Android apps, with R&D centers around the world.
  • Samsung has a large R&D department constantly working on new UI and AI enhancements.
Many of these employees are here in the U.S. Others are in the UK, China, Korea and Israel.
 
We do, in fact.

There's been lots of complaints over the stale design of some products such as the Mac Mini (still designed with space for an optical drive but hasn't featured one since 2011), the stale 2013-era specs of the Mac Pro, the MacBook Air that hasn't been changed since 2010.

All these products were groundbreaking design when they came out. Apple still sells them for the same price even though they are thirteen in a dozen now. That's the problem.

No argument on the stale state of Mac hardware. However, I don't see anyone having the same ridiculous expectations of Apple when it comes to the Mac as they do when it comes to the iPhone. No one expects a completely redesigned Mac every year with amazing new features never seen before.
 
You sound like a pre-iPhone Microsoft fan. I think claiming there are no compelling innovations or creative options to offer customers is a big cop out. Right now, innovation at Apple is constrained because Tim Cook has no imagination and is mostly concerned with offering/engineering products that maximize profits which, by the way, are consistently underwhelming Apple loyalists. The amazing Apple of Steve Jobs is dead at the hands of TC's greed.

Yawn. And you sound like the typical entitled post-iPhone fanboy. I've never owned a PC. My first Apple computer was a IIc. When Steve was booted from Apple, I got rid of my Mac and got a NeXTstation and stayed true to NeXT until Jobs returned to Apple. So please spare me your nonsense judgements. How long have YOU supported Apple? Did you believe enough in Steve's vision to switch to NeXTSTEP? No need to answer. Pretty sure I know the answer!

But please, enlighten us on what sort of innovations you feel entitled to on a yearly basis from Apple! What other devices out there are so amazingly innovative? Get real. The industry has plateaued. The tech has matured. Cook has overseen a lot of innovation. The A-series chip. Swift. The Apple Watch SOC. Airpods. What exactly do you expect from him and from Apple? Why are you so entitled?
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While there are indeed ridiculous expectations at times (micro LED for instance) on fansites, that's a result of Apple constantly claiming magical features in the past, plus the chestnut about hiw "Apple will do it right".

Outside of the forums though, the majority of people are simply looking for a good reason to upgrade. At the least, a new style helps. That's true for anything from clothes to cars. Apple has dropped that ball lately.

New and meaningful features are also incentives. I think Apple's done okay there with camera updates, faster TouchId, etc.

On the flipside, my teen daughter's friends are all avoiding the latest models without headphone jacks. Eventually they'll have no choice, of course.

I agree with your assessment. However, for me, the take-away is that anyone who wants to upgrade yearly and places unrealistic expectations on Apple is delusional. There's absolutely no reason anyone needs to upgrade his or her phone every year, just like you don't upgrade your computer, your TV, your microwave, your car, or anything else on a yearly basis.

I went from a 5s to a 7+. That was a worthy upgrade. Would I have upgraded from a 6 or 6s to the 7? No. There were not enough compelling new features. Just like I'm still perfectly happy with my 2013 fully-loaded MacBook Pro and expect to find it more than adequate for another year or two. People "looking for a good reason to upgrade" every year, then blaming Apple for not finding it, are the problem. Each iPhone has been a marked improvement over the previous version, whether or not those improvements were reason enough to upgrade in the eyes of the gluttonous fanboys.
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People change cars every few years you know. A phone is somewhere between a car and shoes. Just because the "technology is maturing" doesn't mean they can't keep the iPhone looking fresh. Why did the iPhone 7 look 2 years old on launch day? Why do amateur iphone concept renderings look better than Apple's product? Imagine if Apple made a range of different looking iPhone 9's. I might have lost you with that last sentence. Remember that Ford nearly went under in the 30's for a lack of choices, and that Nike comes out with a different shoe every day.

Um, last time I checked, Apple continues to make TONS of money and is one of the most valuable companies in the world. I might agree with your line of thinking if they were struggling. But they are not, so clearly they are doing something right, and you are completely off base. You're basically arguing for mindless consumer gluttony and the sheep-like nature of consumers who demand a shiny new bauble every day. Barf.
 
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I don' t get that, i lost my adapter stuff....
I bought a little clamp from ebay that clamps the adapter to the.... 3.5 mm headphone plug. So the adapter and my headphones are 1 now. Only if i loose the headphones, i will loose the adapter.
So easy..... some people just need everything to be difficult....
The clamp costs about 1.50 euro, i' ll try to find a link.
I don't go on EBay anymore but your post gives me an idea to try a twist tie, that should help but it's still a pain switching from earbuds to headphones with the dongle. But it's better than nothing so I'll give it a try. There are other reasons I would prefer to have the option of a headphone jack for at least another couple of years, but in the case of the iPhone, what's done is done and so I thank you for the suggestion. My cat will be so disappointed.
 
"Um, last time I checked, Apple continues to make TONS of money and is one of the most valuable companies in the world. I might agree with your line of thinking if they were struggling. But they are not, so clearly they are doing something right, and you are completely off base. You're basically arguing for mindless consumer gluttony and the sheep-like nature of consumers who demand a shiny new bauble every day. Barf."[/QUOTE]
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Decreased consumer demand for iPhone is end of tech stock as we know it. #toomanyeggsinonebasket

Totally agree, which is one of the reasons I plan to sell off the shares in my brokerage account over the next 12 months. I feel confident holding it in my retirement account, because I think Apple will be a powerful player for many years to come, but I do think the stock will adjust as upgrade cycles get longer. While the growth in services and "other" is nice, both of those categories have a long way to go and in many respects are tied to the iPhone.
 
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