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When you spend a few years getting a degree, that should be not a time to celebrate when you earned your diploma? Also this was a University for the hearing impaired, so the go home without listening comment is an odd choice for you to mention. :p
Had to go the high school graduation for my family. Had to go to my college graduation, which was a requirement in order to graduate. Did not have to go to my graduate school graduation and did not. I would have rather ripped out my toenails that to listen to any of the speakers. No problem with the celebration part, but listening to some highly successful and/or famous person give anecdotal advice is just enough already.
 
To his credit, he could decline to do these commencement address speeches - yet he does them. I know that for me, giving a speech is the last thing I’d want to do. I’d quit my job if it required me to give speeches.
So good for him on doing them.
It saddens me to see so many people skeptical for every little thing that Apple supports, especially when it comes to accessibility issues. I retired from Apple 5 years ago and my favorite moments were those that I helped a person that had a "disability" find a way to achieve what they wanted to do.
 
I suspect the recent release of Coda was a large factor in the graduating class' speaker selection.
I think they go hand in hand with the ethics of Apple. I know I’m gunna get trolled for saying that. Apple have been supporting students in all areas for many many years.

Whilst Apple have put their money where their mouth is, providing iPads, MacBooks and discounts for years in addition to providing tools and other learning, what have the 'others' done? Given them chrome books? ? It’s in the DNA of Apple to support education.
 
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It's not only supporting education where Apple has significantly improved life and communication for many deaf people. In the old days deaf people had to always carry a notepad and pen or pencil in order to write a note to a hearing person who didn't know sign language, and even at that, communication was awkward. Now, with the iPhone and other smartphones a deaf person can quickly convey what they need to a hearing person and the hearing person can also use their own iPhone to text back or use Notes, whichever works easier. Sometimes a picture is worth 1000 words, as the saying goes, and again the iPhone makes it easy to pull up a photo and show that to someone.

A deaf person who is running late for an appointment or gathering can now easily and quickly text someone to let them know that they will be late..... In the past that was really not possible.

Apple has always been on top of things with regard to accessibility issues, and another way in which they have benefitted the hearing-impaired community is by providing connectivity with current hearing aids, cochlear implant sound processors and bone-anchored sound processors.

Kudos to the students at Gallaudet who wanted Tim Cook to come and connect with them at their graduation! Kudos to Tim Cook for doing just that.
 
Getting asked to give a commencement speech is an honor. Show respect.

I've been asked to give numerous educational talks at conferences over the years and ALWAYS feel honored that people want to hear what I have to say on science education. I feel humbled every time I get invited. The people that ask me are more important than I am. They are the ones making a difference.
 
Getting asked to give a commencement speech is an honor. Show respect.

I've been asked to give numerous educational talks at conferences over the years and ALWAYS feel honored that people want to hear what I have to say on science education. I feel humbled every time I get invited. The people that ask me are more important than I am. They are the ones making a difference.
Except what he has said in many ways he runs his company in ways that work the opposite. Like user privacy. I want to upgrade my legacy appleID but I’m told I have to use a 3rd party like google or yahoo who obviously do not or pay more on top of what I pay for my iCloud.

Just one example. I personally don’t care for him. But to each their own.
 
Nothing against Cook in principle. He's probably a thoroughly decent fellow in his personal life, but words are cheap. When it comes right down to it he's a ruthless businessman and I can opine with a high degree of confidence that his scruples play second fiddle to the bottom line in almost everything he does in his professional life.

Lead with your values, unless they clash with your profits. That's fine in a sense - we expect it from someone in his position - but at least make the speech believable :rolleyes:
 
Nothing against Cook in principle. He's probably a thoroughly decent fellow in his personal life, but words are cheap. When it comes right down to it he's a ruthless businessman and I can opine with a high degree of confidence that his scruples play second fiddle to the bottom line in almost everything he does in his professional life.

Lead with your values, unless they clash with your profits. That's fine in a sense - we expect it from someone in his position - but at least make the speech believable :rolleyes:
Based on what evidence? Because he is successful? Your limited knowledge of company management doesn't give these comments any worth at all. What a load of rubbish.
 
Based on what evidence? Because he is successful? Your limited knowledge of company management doesn't give these comments any worth at all. What a load of rubbish.

As I alluded to, it's just an opinion. You don't become the hyper-successful CEO of a multi-trillion dollar global corporation by being nice to people.

And how do you know I'm not Alan Sugar? What a load of rubbish ;)
 
As I alluded to, it's just an opinion. You don't become the hyper-successful CEO of a multi-trillion dollar global corporation by being nice to people.

And how do you know I'm not Alan Sugar? What a load of rubbish ;)
You did say it was the way it was, as in being a fact, not just an opinion.

Satya Nadella who runs Microsoft (value >$US2 Trillion) is also apparently a decent person and has similar values to Cook. You should look up his life history and his life of empathy and how it defined his work ethic.

BTW Lord Sugar is a billionaire (at about the same value as Tim Cook). Lord Sugar was named "Best Role Model in UK Business". Heads of companies being nice to people are absolutely 'a thing". But, ah well. I guess if you don't know stuff, you don't know stuff. ?
 
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You did say it was the way it was, as in being a fact, not just an opinion.

Satya Nadella who runs Microsoft (value >$US2 Trillion) is also apparently a decent person and has similar values to Cook. You should look up his life history and his life of empathy and how it defined his work ethic.

BTW Lord Sugar is a billionaire (at about the same value as Tim Cook). Lord Sugar was named "Best Role Model in UK Business". Heads of companies being nice to people are absolutely 'a thing". But, ah well. I guess if you don't know stuff, you don't know stuff. ?

I didn’t say he wasn’t a nice person. In fact I said he probably is. What I opined is that, in my opinion his scruples will play second fiddle to profit in his professional life. You’re entitled to disagree but please don’t misrepresent what people have actually said.
 
I didn’t say he wasn’t a nice person. In fact I said he probably is. What I opined is that, in my opinion his scruples will play second fiddle to profit in his professional life. You’re entitled to disagree but please don’t misrepresent what people have actually said.
I’m not misrepresenting anything like you’ve done with misrepresenting his management style, with zero evidence I might add… anyway enough. We disagree. I think he’s a decent manager based on what people say, and you don’t, based on nothing I guess.
 
I’m not misrepresenting anything like you’ve done with misrepresenting his management style, with zero evidence I might add… anyway enough. We disagree. I think he’s a decent manager based on what people say, and you don’t, based on nothing I guess.

I never once mentioned his management style. For clarity I was referring to his business ethics as a whole. If you think he puts his scruples before profit then fair enough. Personally I think it’s highly unlikely but that’s really neither here nor there and I’m sure people don’t want to read this ongoing squabble, so yes, let’s leave it at that and agree to disagree ?
 
It's not only supporting education where Apple has significantly improved life and communication for many deaf people. In the old days deaf people had to always carry a notepad and pen or pencil in order to write a note to a hearing person who didn't know sign language, and even at that, communication was awkward. Now, with the iPhone and other smartphones a deaf person can quickly convey what they need to a hearing person and the hearing person can also use their own iPhone to text back or use Notes, whichever works easier. Sometimes a picture is worth 1000 words, as the saying goes, and again the iPhone makes it easy to pull up a photo and show that to someone.

A deaf person who is running late for an appointment or gathering can now easily and quickly text someone to let them know that they will be late..... In the past that was really not possible.

Apple has always been on top of things with regard to accessibility issues, and another way in which they have benefitted the hearing-impaired community is by providing connectivity with current hearing aids, cochlear implant sound processors and bone-anchored sound processors.

Kudos to the students at Gallaudet who wanted Tim Cook to come and connect with them at their graduation! Kudos to Tim Cook for doing just that.
iPhone is lifesaver for me. It come around right time for me when I about to start college (just after left school) many years ago and be out traveling alone first time by bus. I don't think I able do this without having iPhone with me, I will be worrying get lost, how to contact people, how to communicate with people etc since I am shy person. I am grateful iPhone come around right time when I about be adult. Most people don't realise how much information Deaf person miss out in public.

One time I went on correct bus number on that bus at correct bus stop but bus driver went wrong bus stop (he should went opposite side bus stop go other way) and I end up town far away from my home alone in dark, it was so scary but because I have iPhone I was able to track map where I am and able to text Dad where I am so he can pick me up.

There are many times trains change platform and announce over speaker but not update display. I end up wrong train twice at right platform and right time base on schedule. Since I have iPhone I able find best station get off and get train back or go where I need to be. Lot of train station those days didn't have display and speaker only.

They just small examples things can go wrong even you are there right time and right place and mistake other people causing me problems.
 
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It saddens me to see so many people skeptical for every little thing that Apple supports, especially when it comes to accessibility issues. I retired from Apple 5 years ago and my favorite moments were those that I helped a person that had a "disability" find a way to achieve what they wanted to do.
Because they’re not naïve. I love Apple products as you can tell from my signature but it’s a company or more correctly a corporation. They have one goal and that’s to generate a profit. Everything they do and say is to achieve that goal. When they push charity, environmental issues or some social issue that’s PR to achieve that goal by attracting customers. People get upset when their favorite corporation or brand does something they don’t like. It’s not personal they’re trying to make money. Sometimes it’s at the expense of people. It’s not a charity.
 
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To his credit, he could decline to do these commencement address speeches - yet he does them. I know that for me, giving a speech is the last thing I’d want to do. I’d quit my job if it required me to give speeches.
So good for him on doing them.
Totally agree. I have mixed feelings about Mr. Cook, but I’m sure he has his pick of commencement speeches.

Going to the nation’s only university specifically built for the deaf and hard of hearing is an excellent way of showing that communities with disabilities deserve to have attention and be empowered.
 
Hocking consumer electronics is fulfilling? Maybe Apple should actually invest in things that actually make lives better.
 
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