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This thread is depressing. Horrible seeing a MR discussion that looks like a YouTube or Daily Mail comments section

Same here. It's really sad that some people need to tear another person down in order to feel good about themselves and to have a bit of power. It's the (not so) new normal on the internet.
 
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I didn’t say he wasn’t a nice person. In fact I said he probably is. What I opined is that, in my opinion his scruples will play second fiddle to profit in his professional life. You’re entitled to disagree but please don’t misrepresent what people have actually said.
Does this mean if TC has two choices:
1. Apple screw over customers for billions in revenue or,
2. Apple not screw over customers for billions less,

Then Tim will choose 1?
 
It's not only supporting education where Apple has significantly improved life and communication for many deaf people. In the old days deaf people had to always carry a notepad and pen or pencil in order to write a note to a hearing person who didn't know sign language, and even at that, communication was awkward. Now, with the iPhone and other smartphones a deaf person can quickly convey what they need to a hearing person and the hearing person can also use their own iPhone to text back or use Notes, whichever works easier. Sometimes a picture is worth 1000 words, as the saying goes, and again the iPhone makes it easy to pull up a photo and show that to someone.

A deaf person who is running late for an appointment or gathering can now easily and quickly text someone to let them know that they will be late..... In the past that was really not possible.

Apple has always been on top of things with regard to accessibility issues, and another way in which they have benefitted the hearing-impaired community is by providing connectivity with current hearing aids, cochlear implant sound processors and bone-anchored sound processors.

Kudos to the students at Gallaudet who wanted Tim Cook to come and connect with them at their graduation! Kudos to Tim Cook for doing just that.
Cough, cough, yeah sure…

 
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Or, he could be like Jobs and decline all but one of them and focus his energy on running Apple. Personally, I’d rather listen to self-made people, not some kiss a** that worked their way up the corporate ladder.
Yep, without Steve Jobs Tim Cook would be frying burger patties at McDonalds, he was just given the opportunity to be successful building on the legacy of somebody elses success. But Steve knew that Tim was unable to do anything more than managing boring corporate crap, thats why he made sure Jony had all the freedom he needed to be creative before he passed away, to make sure Tim does not cross Jony’s way. Seems like it didn’t help, Tims contemptible corporate point of view knows how to f‘up a company from inside out.
 
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Tim seems like a really good guy.

(and yes, I know it's easy to be cynical, and no CEO is perfect, etc. But my belief is the world would be a better place if we had more Tim Cooks and less Zucks and Travis and Murdochs...)
 
Yep, without Steve Jobs Tim Cook would be frying burger patties at McDonalds, he was just given the opportunity to be successful building on legacy of somebody elses success.

Tim was a pretty successful guy before Apple. Don't forget Steve had to sell Tim really hard to even make a first visit to the Apple campus. There's a reason why Steve wanted him so badly.
 
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Yep, without Steve Jobs Tim Cook would be frying burger patties at McDonalds, he was just given the opportunity to be successful building on legacy of somebody elses success. But Steve knew that Tim was unable to do anything more than managing boring corporate crap, thats why he made sure Jony had all the freedom he needed to be creative before he passed away, to make sure Tim does nor cross Jony’s way. Seems like it didn’t help, Tims corporate contemptible point of view knows how to f‘up a company from inside out.
Without Tim Cook apple would be producing pies and not successful consumer electronic devices.
 
Or, he could be like Jobs and decline all but one of them and focus his energy on running Apple. Personally, I’d rather listen to self-made people, not some kiss a** that worked their way up the corporate ladder.
Yeah, but Tim is in demand. And apple is doing fine with Tim’s commencement speeches, DI goals, apple philanthropy, etc. The question is not who you want to hear give a speech, but who would college grads want to hear.
 
Without Tim Cook apple would be producing pies and not successful consumer electronic devices.
A short success still harvesting the fruits that Steve left on the tree. Tim is a bean counter, nothing more, a wannabe Steve Jobs without own personality.
 
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A short success still harvesting the fruits that Steve left on the tree. Tim is a bean counter, nothing more, a wannabe Steve Jobs without own personality.
Short term? Going on 11+ years. It would be one thing if apple was imploding, but it’s not. So yep, level your criticism, ready, aim and fire. The universe doesn’t care.
 
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A short success still harvesting the fruits that Steve left on the tree. Tim is a bean counter, nothing more, a wannabe Steve Jobs without own personality.

Curious...why do you let a company CEO get you so worked up? That doesn't seem very healthy.

As an aside, Tim Cook holds a BS in engineering in addition to his MBA.
 
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Yeah, but Tim is in demand. And apple is doing fine with Tim’s commencement speeches, DI goals, apple philanthropy, etc. The question is not who you want to hear give a speech, but who would college grads want to hear.
All CEOs of major companies are in demand. That’s not saying much. Frankly, I don’t know any grads who care to hear what Tim has to say.

While you see Apple as doing fine, longtime Apple observers see a company that’s starting to rot from the inside out. These things take time to manifest themselves. Even John Sculley’s Apple did great for a time, and they weren’t in great financial footing when Steve was kicked out, unlike the Apple that Tim was given.
 
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All CEOs of major companies are in demand. That’s not saying much.
We’ll then who is the authoritative ranking on the ceos who are in more demand? As opposed to some anecdotal opinion?
Frankly, I don’t know any grads who care to hear what Tim has to say.
Maybe because you only know a fraction of the graduating class. Doesn’t mean your universe has the saner honking as the entire universe of graduating students. https://www.reference.com/world-view/many-people-graduate-college-year-8b0ccf821050d39e
While you see Apple as doing fine, longtime Apple observers see a company that’s starting to rot from the inside out.
Different strokes for different folks. Long time observers might be too biased for their own good.
These things take time to manifest themselves.
How many years? 20, 30 or 40 years? Until after we are all in heaven?
Even John Sculley’s Apple did great for a time, and they weren’t in great financial footing when Steve was kicked out, unlike the Apple that Tim was given.
Are you saying that because of Steve apple was in bad shape? Because it seems like Tim turned the company fortunes around.
 
Cough, cough, yeah sure…


Ah, I didn't know this! I have the iPhone 12 Pro. Wow, this does seem like an important feature to remove, one which would actually be useful to a lot of people, not just hearing-impaired.
 
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We’ll then who is the authoritative ranking on the ceos who are in more demand? As opposed to some anecdotal opinion?

Maybe because you only know a fraction of the graduating class. Doesn’t mean your universe has the saner honking as the entire universe of graduating students. https://www.reference.com/world-view/many-people-graduate-college-year-8b0ccf821050d39e

Different strokes for different folks. Long time observers might be too biased for their own good.

How many years? 20, 30 or 40 years? Until after we are all in heaven?

Are you saying that because of Steve apple was in bad shape? Because it seems like Tim turned the company fortunes around.
You tell me who the authority is on CEO demand… you’re the one who brought it up.

And you know every single member of the graduating class?? Your hypocrisy and failed logic is overwhelming.

Tim had little to do with turning Apple’s fortunes around. That was all Steve and the breakthrough products he introduced.

I’m pretty sure you’re the one who claimed that Tim was a visionary and Elon didn’t accomplish anything which is the very definition of delusion so I’ll end it here.
 
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You tell me who the authority is on CEO demand… you’re the one who brought it up.
You are the one using your ir letter as the authoritative definitive reference of in-demand ceos.
And you know every single member of the graduating class?? Your hypocrisy and failed logic is overwhelming.
Your strawman was underwhelming.
Tim had little to do with turning Apple’s fortunes around. That was all Steve and the breakthrough products he introduced.
Tim took the company to an entirely new level. Introduced a new segment of products and services. Did what SJ wouldn’t do.
I’m pretty sure you’re the one who claimed that Tim was a visionary and Elon didn’t accomplish anything which is the very definition of delusion
Just pointing out the hypocrisy of aggrandizing musk and diminishing cooks accomplishments. Very definition of hypocrisy.
so I’ll end it here.
We’ll see.
 
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You tell me who the authority is on CEO demand… you’re the one who brought it up.

And you know every single member of the graduating class?? Your hypocrisy and failed logic is overwhelming.

Tim had little to do with turning Apple’s fortunes around. That was all Steve and the breakthrough products he introduced.

I’m pretty sure you’re the one who claimed that Tim was a visionary and Elon didn’t accomplish anything which is the very definition of delusion so I’ll end it here.
Since Tim's been CEO we've gotten Apple Watch, AirPods, Apple Silicon, Apple Music, AppleTV+, Mac Studio and the full-screen iPhone lines going back to iPhone X. Yes, a few of those might have started development under Jobs but they all were released with his work. All good so far. His failures are the initial Maps rollout, the Butterfly Board MacBooks, some problems with the App Store, and some underwhelming macOS versions. I'd also say that he's made some negative choices related to dealing with the Pandemic, including forcing people to return to offices.

And of course, a CEO's job is to increase shareholder value, which he has done tremendously well at.

His worst thing in terms of product was the insistence on the Butterfly board, and that I think was greatly influenced by his biggest personal mistake which was an over reliance on Ive, which caused a lot of machines that were not successful as computers as much as art pieces. I also think the hyper focus on Apple Park as a campus has undermined some of the company's credibility.

On balance, I'd say he's done a good job. No, he isn't the speaker or dreamer Jobs was. But he's run the company as well as could be hoped. While many other companies floundered during the worst crisis of the 21st century thus far, Apple has generally not lost a beat. Others may have made different choices, but I don't think anything he's done is beyond the pale bad.
 
Introduced a new segment of products and services. Did what SJ wouldn’t do.

Just pointing out the hypocrisy of aggrandizing musk and diminishing cooks accomplishments. Very definition of hypocrisy.
That's an excellent point. Jobs tried to setup services several times (.Mac, Ping, ect) but Tim's logistics have navigated that to being a major profit center for the company.

And Musk has plenty of good points, if only his bad points weren't so bad. He's obsessed with fairness to the point he forgets that some people can't and won't play by those same rules.
 
That's an excellent point. Jobs tried to setup services several times (.Mac, Ping, ect) but Tim's logistics have navigated that to being a major profit center for the company.

And at a time when other product categories' growth have plateaued, which was predicted by analysts. He's also responsible for roughly 160,000 employees during a once in a hundred year pandemic, with Apple coming out of that in good shape and financially strong. Apple is incredibly lucky to have him as their CEO.
 
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Tim Cook said that Apple's purpose has always been to create technology that enriches peoples' lives, adding that the company is only able to achieve that goal by having a relentless focus on its values, such as making technology accessible to all.
But most of us can’t afford over au$2000 for an iPhone or iPad let alone now the 27” iMac has gone or $79 for a iPhone case that’s $12 on eBay. Think Apple just $$$$ now and forgot about most customers that are on minimum wage. Just my view.
 
Belligerent yawner of a marketing spiel when it's suppose to be motivational. Give every student a partial tuition refund for suffering through that.
 


Apple CEO Tim Cook today delivered the commencement address at Gallaudet University in Washington, D.C., which is the only university in the world where Deaf and hard of hearing students live and learn bilingually in American Sign Language and English.

tim-cook-gallaudet-university.jpeg

During his speech, Cook told undergraduates that his one piece of advice is to lead with your values throughout life.

"What does it take to build a life that provides meaning and fulfillment?" said Cook. "No one can answer that question for you, and that includes me. There is no iPhone feature that can come to the rescue. AI is good, but it's not that good. Still, I have one important piece of advice I want to share — so important, that it's the only piece of advice I'm going to share today. And that is this: whatever you do, lead with your values."

Cook said that Apple's purpose has always been to create technology that enriches peoples' lives, adding that the company is only able to achieve that goal by having a relentless focus on its values, such as making technology accessible to all, ensuring that privacy is a fundamental human right, and environmental responsibility.

The commencement was streamed live on YouTube:


Cook's commencement address came after Apple TV+ film "CODA" won an Academy Award for Best Picture. The film revolves around a young woman named Ruby, the sole hearing member of a Deaf family. Using sign language, Ruby acts as an interpreter for her parents while working for her family's struggling fishing boat business.

Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook Delivers Commencement Address at Gallaudet University
Kind’ve depressing to see Tim mentioning that AI is ‘not that good.’ :/
 
Tim Cook said that Apple's purpose has always been to create technology that enriches peoples' lives, adding that the company is only able to achieve that goal by having a relentless focus on its values, such as making technology accessible to all.
But most of us can’t afford over au$2000 for an iPhone or iPad let alone now the 27” iMac has gone or $79 for a iPhone case that’s $12 on eBay. Think Apple just $$$$ now and forgot about most customers that are on minimum wage. Just my view.
So you're mad both about the most expensive iMac being canceled, and the expensive iPhone, and the premium accessories that aren't required but some people like?

I'm sorry, you're not making much sense.

Apple offers all kinds of levels, from a 429$ US iPhone and because of apple's market strength and design, those Apple chooses not enter are often covered by others. And if you can't buy new, well-supported used items are perfectly available. An iPhone 7 from 2016 works fine today, with a secure, modern OS.

You're working hard to show Apple's a terrible money grubbing company - but really, let's look at it - an original Bondi iMac in 1999 was $1299 - same as the current iMac. But with inflation, $1299 in 1999 is $2,254.22 today (all this is in US dollars, sorry). Is keeping basically the same price over 20 years the act of a greedy company? I don't think so. Now you can argue that Apple should lower prices - but honestly, if they keep Macs that run for 10 years, which is very common (I worked in Apple repair for AASPs for 5 years, and would commonly see Macs from 2010 running perfectly well in 2020), and phones that run for 6-7 years... well, is that the problem of Apple? Hell, there are wall street types who say apple needs more planned obsolesce to keep sale numbers up. But Apple hasn't seemed to have listened thus far.

So I'm sorry, I can understand your feelings, but your feelings don't line up with facts.
 
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