You don't believe in lock in? You might as well claim that inflation doesn't exist.
Tell us why Windows ME didn't result in more Mac sales. Tell me what the Microsoft / Netscape trial was about.
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Apple CEO Tim Cook Earned $74.6 Million in 2024
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You don't believe in lock in? You might as well claim that inflation doesn't exist.
Tell us why Windows ME didn't result in more Mac sales. Tell me what the Microsoft / Netscape trial was about.
Nope.
That’s not really an apt analogy.
Because as bad as it was it still ran the applications I needed. At that point imo Mac’s were overpriced and didn’t have the functionality I needed. That is not lock in.
Browsers.
Yes it is.
Why were macs overpriced? Where did the alternatives go? Why wasn't mac software being written?
No it is not. Its called picking the product that best suits your needs.
It’s really difficult to have a debate in good faith if someone is claiming that ecosystem lock-in does not exist in any form
Not even Apple would argue that position. It’s factually inaccurate
Not even Apple would argue that position. It’s factually inaccurate
Have you SEEN Sony's "current" lineup? Their top of the line handycam is 7 years old, and can only shoot 4k/30, compared to 4k/120 with current iPhones! The only thing it does better than an iPhone is zoom and low light.
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Sony has a *wide* variety of video cameras available. Simply purchase based one's requirements.
Do you really believe Apple is going to successfully compete with Sony/Canon/Nikon/Panasonic/Minolta/Blackmagic/etc...
Probably true. He probably earned more like a billion but only got paid that money.
Wait until you learn what the shareholders voted for Elon Musk....you're going to love it!
For many like myself it's far more about the whole ecosystem than any one device. As for hardware it will always be a tight horse race with one company taking the lead for a bit then the other. I prefer the Mac over Windows machines because I've found Windows overly convoluted at times, less reliable and, as a software engineer, I'm accustomed to using Unix like machines. This makes the iPhone ideal because it mirrors many aspects of the Mac and has very seamless interactions. The story for others is their own and they make their own purchase decisions based on that.
It’s difficult to have a debate in good faith when Cooks salary is criticized without any other criticism of individuals in various categories who may earn more, such as those who are: doctors, sports figures, celebs, real estate moguls etc.
It leads to the conclusion for Mr. Cook is only “overpaid”. Mr. Cook is probably underpaid, but I don’t expect the critics to really understand it.
It leads to the conclusion for Mr. Cook is only “overpaid”. Mr. Cook is probably underpaid, but I don’t expect the critics to really understand it.
A guy without a shred of product vision. The big upgrade cycles are losing their appeal. The improvements are incremental and irrelevant to the masses. AI is going to be a flop for most.
Apple CEO Tim Cook earned $74.6 million in 2024, up from $63.2 million in 2023, Apple said in its annual proxy filing.
Cook's earnings included a $3 million base salary, $58 million in stock awards, $12 million in performance-based awards, and $1.5 million in other compensation, such as 401(k) contributions, life insurance premiums, vacation cash-out, security expenses, and personal air travel expenses. Cook is required by Apple to use private aircraft for both business and personal travel.
Apple set a target compensation of $59 million for Cook, but Cook earned more through the cash incentive payout that executives receive when Apple performs well.
Though Cook's 2024 compensation exceeded what he earned in 2023, it was still down from the $99 million that he was awarded in 2022. Cook and the Board of Directors opted to decrease Cook's total compensation after his 2022 earnings reached almost $100 million.
Other Apple executives, including Luca Maestri, Kate Adams, Deirdre O'Brien, and Jeff Williams, earned $27.2 million.
Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook Earned $74.6 Million in 2024
This "advice" would have worked fine in the USSR. The one product that actually exists is the one that meets your needs.
Again, communist market will always have the best product available to you.
That was what everyone was saying while Apple was building a phone. Those competitors were not SEVEN YEARS OLD.
The reason lock-in didn't occur on phones is because nothing stopped a Blackberry from calling a Nokia. And those phones didn't send much data to each other. Neither is their lock in with camcorders. Apple already makes everything they need to build a great camcorder. It just needs a bigger lens, sensor, SD card slot, and form factor. Run iOS, and work just like an iPhone.
You may not be aware there are many companies who make video cameras. Simply chose one that meets your requirements/needs and budget. That's what the market is about.
Apple *trying* to compete in that space would be a huge distraction. And would ultimately be unsuccessful.
Sounds like trying to compete in the VR space with something that's 6x the cost of the market leader... with no content and no gaming story
No wonder they stopped manufacturing it already
Calling the AVP a "belly flop" is being generous
And to think this was Tim's baby ... his "next iPhone" (or so he may have hoped)
Reportedly pushed out the door despite vocal internal opposition (they were right!)
A core competency of apple with software to support the hardware along with the ecosystem. AVP fits within the core competency and it’s not dead and will be resurrected.
You may not understand the first gen AVP was mostly developed to be a technology demonstrator, and to get developers on-board developing software for AVP Gen2 (at a lower cost) for both VR and AR. The 6x cost is reflected in the substantially higher image quality and immersive user experience. The cost will come down in Gen 2.
Than I’ve a harder question for you 😊Can you list a dozen innovative products that weren’t already on the market developed under Timmy’s leadership at Apple?
Resurrected with what? There’s a big lag in software and I don’t think genmoij or image playgrounds will solve that.
Also siri is braindead. It will be hard to compete with google and Samsung offerings when they’re offering something with a brain. Apple surely won’t resurrect it competing on price.
Next year I can tell you “I told you so” probably even sooner 😉
Obfuscation aside, it looks like you're not able to answer my question.
Clearly Cook isn't like Jobs. Jobs started when the personal computer was in its infancy back in the mid to late 1970s. Anything and everything was innovative when starting fresh with zero preexisting products, which led to the Altair 8800 computer in 1974 and Apple 1 computer in 1976.
I do remember Jobs also introducing Lisa, Apple Hi Fi, PowerMac G4 Cube, and Apple iPod Sox.
You didn’t ask me that question. But I asked you a question.
Hard to keep growing from the level Apple is at right now. But I think pretty clear that the Mac segment is going to keep growing as it takes market share from PCs. Innovation has been good when we don't ignore Apple Silicon as innovation. Two hits that came out during Tim Cook's CEO time are AirPods and Apple Watch. They've dominated their categories. Will Apple come up with another new category leading product in the next couple of years? We shall see.
Prognostications of decreasing iPhone sales is a tale told since the launch of the iPhone 3 and it never seems to actually happen if we step back and look at some period of time larger than year to year comparison.
The question I asked up above a few posts was: "Can you list a dozen innovative products Apple should be developing?"
I'm sure anyone can answer that.
Again, it's relatively easy to innovate when starting from scratch and there are almost zero competing products.
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I suspect the Mac segment will suffer from fierce competition from Qualcomm. Not only on battery life (asus came out with a notebook lighter than the MacBook Air, new metal casing better than aluminum, same track pad as Apple, better screen and 32 hours of battery life).
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Yes, Apple could offer the latest technology in their pro products.
Using better materials in their laptops/ iPads/macs that don’t smudge, are lighter and stronger.
Like this one:
Make Siri really understand you would be an award in innovation for Apple.
I can go on and on…
