Did we really need a 30 minute video? Just sounds like Tim is saying the same thing and this reporter is asking the same question.
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Apple CEO Tim Cook: FBI's Backdoor Would Be 'Software Equivalent of Cancer'
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I think this is a first for me on this forum, but.... I actually agree with everything you said (lol) except:
Now, certainly we should not allow terrorists into our country. In fact if we find one we should throw them in Gitmo. Period. I completely agree there. The reservation I have is the belief that if we secure our boarders, that it will make us safe from this ideology. While it is certainly important to establish strong boarder security, it will never stop terrorists from attacking us. all it takes is for 1 or 2 to make it through and we get hit. Even worse, they don't even have to make it through, because all it takes is for the ideology to convert an individual who is already here, and the security is completely defeated..
The only way to win is to smash the people who are responsible for the dissemination and execution of this ideology so overwhelmingly, that no-one would dare even think of egressing against this country, or its citizens, ever again. Unfortunately our leaders for at least the past 45 years have not had the backbone to do that, and each time we've been attacked, we have appease them. This has done nothing but to embolden them, and until we stand up for ourselves, and execute an uncompromising ethic of self interest, and self defense, this fight is completely hopeless; phone, boarder, or anything else...
Now, certainly we should not allow terrorists into our country. In fact if we find one we should throw them in Gitmo. Period. I completely agree there. The reservation I have is the belief that if we secure our boarders, that it will make us safe from this ideology. While it is certainly important to establish strong boarder security, it will never stop terrorists from attacking us. all it takes is for 1 or 2 to make it through and we get hit. Even worse, they don't even have to make it through, because all it takes is for the ideology to convert an individual who is already here, and the security is completely defeated..
The only way to win is to smash the people who are responsible for the dissemination and execution of this ideology so overwhelmingly, that no-one would dare even think of egressing against this country, or its citizens, ever again. Unfortunately our leaders for at least the past 45 years have not had the backbone to do that, and each time we've been attacked, we have appease them. This has done nothing but to embolden them, and until we stand up for ourselves, and execute an uncompromising ethic of self interest, and self defense, this fight is completely hopeless; phone, boarder, or anything else...
I have discussed this, to an limited extent, with a freidn of mine who is a lwyer, currently employed by the City of Los Angeles. I am told that, if courts rule against Apple, individuals can be jailed, and we would "go down the line" so to speak until there is eventual compaince (or everyone in jail, a less likely scenario). He seems to side with Cook on the matter, at least from a business standpoint, but feels that the case will ultimately end against Apple's favor, though nothing is ever a sure thing.
Holding out for the Lord of the Rings analogy. You know the one ring thing.
SCOTUS Guidance? That's a good idea, let's see what Scalia has to say on the "Originalist" intent of iPhones, just like the ones our founding fathers used... oh, wait, we're too late.
Scalia's gone and an Obstructionist Senate has rendered the court impotent by refusing to do their jobs, because they're partisan hacks.
Yeah, I want to trust the government with all my data, they've proven such good stewards of everything else.
SO the government can compel a company to invent what does not exist?
They don't have the way, they would need to develop it.
Not!
They won't refuse, and they've already stated that, but we're not there yet, and by thrusting the issue wide open and into widespread public discourse, Apple hopes to avoid getting to that stage.
If we value our privacy and freedom, all of us need to get involved, because 'the master key' proposal, if Apple is forced by the courts to implement such a solution, will affect all of us, and will make the private Data of all of us vulnerable.
Inappropriate humor? You must have lots of friends.
After watching the entire Muir interview, I think Tim did a good job articulating the stakes of this high-profile case.
If we value all this country stands for, it's now up to us to carry the torch to sway public opinion and nip this opportunistic stab at a slow but certain erosion of our freedoms, in the bud.
Certain forefathers were just as bad and have lasting legacies in at least India, Africa, Australia and ironically The US to this day. Be careful what you say
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Apparently you missed the memo that the FBI took this to the media and they are responsible for the circus including the FACT that they themselves ordered the County Of San Bernandino to create a new password setting up this whole lame ass situation. A FACT they conveniently left out of their own press release.
The main difference being is people like thinner devices, despite the vocal minority here on MR.
And to equate thin electronics goods to cancer? Shame on you and shame on everyone who liked your post.
Excellent Tim. The strategic decision to hold customer privacy and security at the highest will in the end prove very smart.
Respect for privacy is already a differentiator, I expect it will increasingly become so.
FBI should equip their people with iPhones and be happy they are so safe.
Then they should go out and do some REAL police work. Lame asses. Or ask the NSA what those two crisis actors did during their living life. Just look at the backups, every breath should be there.
Respect for privacy is already a differentiator, I expect it will increasingly become so.
FBI should equip their people with iPhones and be happy they are so safe.
Then they should go out and do some REAL police work. Lame asses. Or ask the NSA what those two crisis actors did during their living life. Just look at the backups, every breath should be there.
Look ... someone on TV with a brain!
Spot on, ex-Leukemia sufferer here and I'm not offended at all.
Tim just said it can be written. Why do you think Apple is incapable of writing that software? I'm not sure where your argument is.
And I think he's being quite serious, hence the monotone.
Check his latest keynotes, he's less monotone than ever.
cancer
ˈkansə/
noun
a disease caused by an uncontrolled division of abnormal cells in a part of the body.
This backdoor "master key", once written, may be duplicated like "cancer", uncontrollably, by many software engineers/hackers around the world.
SO yeah, I agree Tim's word of "cancer" is correct. I don't think he's trying to offend anyone here.
I can imagine how furious is Cook inside that people still debate this. There is nothing to debate here. How about banning guns in America, so that a moron unhappy with his life can't go easily get one and start shooting in a cinema.
Sad to see he went "full Rubio" there, repeating taglines over and over again.I can go an entire year without listening to the words "cancer", "future" and "safety". Yes, I agree that what the government is asking is equivalent to creating cancer, but instead of repeating that several times, he could have given examples of how that analogy is apt: the software would, invariably fall in the wrong hands and be used for the wrong purposes. Yes, it is a public safety matter, but instead of repeating that ad nauseam, show examples of how public safety has been compromised in the past by similar cancer-tools, and show that the problem would be several orders of magnitude more serious in this case.
As the Macalope pointed out, Bruce Schneider (answering to an asinine question) gave the best answer in this matter. Something along the lines of "terrorists sometimes go to restaurants. Let's poison the food on restaurants, that way we get all the terrorists." That analogy would have made wonders for the public at large watching TC on that interview.
As the Macalope pointed out, Bruce Schneider (answering to an asinine question) gave the best answer in this matter. Something along the lines of "terrorists sometimes go to restaurants. Let's poison the food on restaurants, that way we get all the terrorists." That analogy would have made wonders for the public at large watching TC on that interview.
I think most people do not understand that what the government is asking is for Apple to create something that does not exist.
Most people think Apple is simply unwilling to turn over information it has and that is untrue.
If people realized that Apple has already turned over everything they have I think they would have the support of the people.
Most people think Apple is simply unwilling to turn over information it has and that is untrue.
If people realized that Apple has already turned over everything they have I think they would have the support of the people.
If they haven't means they are idiots. There is no other explanation. Darwin is turning in his grave.
Apple CEO Tim Cook today spoke with ABC News anchor David Muir, explaining Apple's decision to object to the court order that would require it to help the FBI break into the iPhone owned by Syed Farook, one of the shooters in the December attack in San Bernardino, California.
In the interview, Cook reiterated much of what he wrote in the open letter where he announced Apple's plans to stand against the government and oppose the order to create a backdoor into iOS devices.
According to Cook, the software the FBI wants to use to brute force the passcode on Farook's iPhone would be "the equivalent of cancer" that has the potential to put hundreds of millions of Apple's customers at risk.He went on to say that the fulfilling the FBI's request could set a precedent that eventually leads to weaker smartphone encryption. "If a court can ask us to write this piece of software, think about what else they could ask us to write," said Cook. "I don't know where this stops. But I do know this is not what should be happening in this country."
Cook says Apple has cooperated fully with the FBI, giving all of the information that it could provide. He said opposing the government "doesn't feel right" and that it's a "very uncomfortable position." He also expressed deep sympathy for the families impacted by the attack and said he wished the FBI had contacted Apple before changing the Apple ID password on the phone, making it impossible to get an additional iCloud backup. According to Cook, Apple first heard about the FBI's initial filing from the press.Cook explained that Apple is not just protecting the data on one phone, it's protecting the data on the devices of all of its customers. He says if Apple knew a way to get the information on the phone that would not expose millions of customers to issues, the company would do it. "This is about the future," he said. "As people understand what is at stake here, an increasing number support us."
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Cook is plunging deeper into the delusion that Apple is above the government, common sense and the public good. It wont be long now and he will be history. I hope he wont take Apple with him.
It has not been said by Apple clearly. Its always buried in some analogy. Tim Cook needs to say "Apple has fully complied with all legal requests and we have turned over everything we have but they are currently asking us to create something that does not exist."
Even Bill Gates missed this one when he compared it to banks simply turning over financial records upon request.