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does anyone else have the feeling of the shift from "i" to "
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I can manage my huge ePub book collection on my ipad without any issues. What exactly are you talking about? Perhaps I am misunderstanding you.

Yes, I regularly transfer books back and forth from Calibre to my Iphone for reading; I currently have dozens on my phone right now. I use the Stanza reader. Not fantastic, but decent.
 
Is anyone besides me pissed about the 8MP camera? I know it's a lot better, better sensor blah blah blah i am sure it will be good and i know that it's not all about the Mega Pixels.... But.... Mega Pixels are still important and I think they should've gone to at least 13. Sony Xperia is supposed to be coming out with a b ad ass 20.7 MP in the Z3 just wish iPhone would've thrown that in there and it would've been perfect.

Megapixels don't mean nearly as much as the lens and other qualities of the sensor. The lens is really the key and is why a dslr camera body can be 1/10th the price of the lenses that go on it.
 
A standard resolution, the size I like and the ability to replace the abomination that is Apple's mobile keyboard... and since I have a lot of other Apple gear it's nice.

I've been using Android since the G1 and currently sport a Nexus 5, but I might finally grab an iPhone.
 
Yup competition has been great. However, the phone market is now mature and the competition has nothing further to offer. Feature parity has been achieved. We can now watch Android destroy itself in a race to the bottom while Apple walks away with the $. The PC industry has undergone the same thing.

There will of course be competition and innovation in the future, just not in the phone space.

A bigger phone is in no way an innovation, so not sure how the competition led them there. If anything, its the change in market taste that led them there, same reason the competition made bigger phone (though in their case, maybe differentiating from Apple was the main driver).
 
I like my way of thinking (as an investor, but more, a cheerleader for Apple's continued success) a lot more than that of a pedantic consumer who wants everything for nothing. Go shop at Walmart, where they teach you all about "value".

Omg have you ever taken an economics class? It's not wanting something for nothing. There is such a thing called "market value." Amazon sells things at below "market value," some stores sell at slightly above, but Apple by "maintaining their (30%) margin" is selling things at way above market value. The only thing the consumer (you) is being is a sucker.
 
I like my way of thinking (as an investor, but more, a cheerleader for Apple's continued success) a lot more than that of a pedantic consumer who wants everything for nothing. Go shop at Walmart, where they teach you all about "value".

I so wish I'd had the money to invest back in the 90s. I remember a point when Jobs had returned and OS X was in development, yet the stock price remained low. Seeing leaks of OS X, I KNEW Apple would rise again.
 
Edit: Redacted. Please delete my posts in this thread, if possible. Thank you.

Too late...

I have owned iPhones since literally the very first one in 2007. I was using it before there was an App Store, before you could copy & paste, before they had an iTunes Store app. I have been a loyal customer for all of these years.

Here's the thing. 16GB is most assuredly NOT enough storage for the vast majority of users today. Even my grandpa has huge issues with 16GB of storage on his phone, and literally the only thing he uses it for asides from phone calls is taking pictures. When you look at the average person's apps, numbers of high-quality photos, and music, 16GB is not enough even for most of the basic users.

I am finished with the iPhone. I love everything about the iPhone 6+ except for this one detail, and it's enough to potentially make me switch platforms entirely, to a manufacturer that DOES have 32GB as the base model.

iOS 8 actually has several ways of improving upon the 2 biggest culprits of iOS storage:

1. Photos/Videos
-with iCloud photo library, you can now optimize iPhone storage space and also maintain access to your high res content. Takes 8 GB of photo/video down to about 650 MB. Pure freaking genius the way it works.

2. Messages
-few people realize how quickly this builds up, especially being able to message photo and video. Auto delete takes care of this.

So...arguably....with iOS 8 there is even LESS reason than ever before to get more than 16 GB. Your move.

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Omg have you ever taken an economics class? It's not wanting something for nothing. There is such a thing called "market value." Amazon sells things at below "market value," some stores sell at slightly above, but Apple by "maintaining their (30%) margin" is selling things at way above market value. The only thing the consumer (you) is being is a sucker.

If you think iPhone is anywhere near above market value, it is you that needs a lesson in economics.
 
Yes, I regularly transfer books back and forth from Calibre to my Iphone for reading; I currently have dozens on my phone right now. I use the Stanza reader. Not fantastic, but decent.

Can you browse your Calibre library from your iPad using Calibre Companion or a similar App? Or do you have to send over a book at a time using iTunes sync? iBooks is an abomination, it takes your ebooks, cryptically renames them, and buries them in the user library. Whoever designed iBooks should be shot and buried under the foundation of the new Apple HQ.

I browse my Calibre library for books, and I also regularly send over a few hundred PDFs organized in a hierarchical file structure. To my knowledge, both are impossible on an iPad, or at least an order of magnitude more complicated than with Android.

That's also not cool that it forces you to use Stanza rather than the built in reader. Does Stanza have a dictionary?
 
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Is he referring to "pants with bigger pockets" because I've not seen a single pair in stores yet, nor even a blurry image in a rumor thread?:rolleyes:

More seriously, this is exactly why I think they also developed and launched a 5.5"- to hit the Android players right where it hurts. In one shot, they mitigate the biggest tangible reason to buy Android smart phones with the added enticement of iOS to boot. I think he's right: a lot of Android people will come back to iPhone.

Yup, coming from note 3 to a 6+ with 128gb(that storage space). And if things don't work between me and IOS I'll just sell my device on ebay to some Isheep who'll pay over retail, and I'll switch to the note 4.
 
You know very well what their cut will be. Stop trying to play dumb. It doesn't make you look smart.

Are you referring to their app store cut? That wouldn't hold up for general purchases where credit card companies currently charge 2.5-3%. Even if Apple's cut was 0, it would still help them sell hardware. Apart from that they would still have to pay the credit card company.
 
Too late...



iOS 8 actually has several ways of improving upon the 2 biggest culprits of iOS storage:

1. Photos/Videos
-with iCloud photo library, you can now optimize iPhone storage space and also maintain access to your high res content. Takes 8 GB of photo/video down to about 650 MB. Pure freaking genius the way it works.

2. Messages
-few people realize how quickly this builds up, especially being able to message photo and video. Auto delete takes care of this.

So...arguably....with iOS 8 there is even LESS reason than ever before to get more than 16 GB. Your move.

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If you think iPhone is anywhere near above market value, it is you that needs a lesson in economics.

iCloud is only an option if you have unlimited bandwidth. That's true for many Americans but a large minority in rural areas cannot use iCloud so heavily without exceeding their data caps.

Not sure what you mean about iPhone market value. Apple sells them at the highest margin in the business, that's for sure.
 
Yup, coming from note 3 to a 6+ with 128gb(that storage space). And if things don't work between me and IOS I'll just sell my device on ebay to some Isheep who'll pay over retail, and I'll switch to the note 4.

So that's how Android people explain it to themselves. It's not that their devices lose half their value when they walk out of the store, it's that iSheep will buy used iPhones for more than retail.
 
I am a huge Apple fan. I own almost every product they make. I will not be purchasing the iPhone 6. They skimped on the storage. In this day and age, 16 gigs of storage on a $750 device is inexcusable. Absolutely ridiculous. Other phone manufacturers are guilty of the same thing, except that unlike Apple, even a company like Samsung is starting to move to a 32GB base model.

16GB wasn't enough for most people on the iPhone 5. But now on the iPhone 6+, with a 1080P display (!) they are still using the same measly 16GB base.

It literally costs them LESS than $3 to add another 16GB of typical smartphone NAND (the same NAND they use). Yet they still keep the base model at 16GB. This is absolute greed. And I will not pay Apple $100 extra just to get 48GB of storage. You can literally get a 64GB USB flash drive for $17 (which uses the same exact NAND flash from the same manufacturers). How on earth does Apple get away with charging $100 for 48GB??? Unbelievable.

They obviously left the base model at 16GB because they don't want people who would have upgraded to 32GB to become satisfied. It's pure greed. Apple has always charged a lot extra for more storage, and I'm fine with that, but charging 784% more and selectively giving consumers the benefits of Moore's Law for their own greedy purposes? Absolutely no way.

I really like this phone. But the absolutely measly storage on a supposedly "premium" device has pissed me off. I guess I will be sticking with my iPhone 5 for another year. It runs the iOS 8 beta perfectly anyways.


I'm trying to use my 16 gigs of space and the only thing I can come up with is video. I take a lot of video with my kids but when I go on a long vacation or just for maintenance I air drop them to my ipad for permanent storage or put them on the computer. We've become incredibly needy to think we need every photo we've shot and every video we've shot since unboxing. Who needs all that at once?

I guess music but people still buy music? I've been using Rdio for a year and Spotify for two years before that. I just checked, apparently yes I have about 10 songs in iTunes I must've downloaded ages ago.

With the move to the cloud I actually expect storage to shrink and go the way of the dinosaur.

Your point may be valid for you but there are millions of us out there who could care less about storage because of the increasingly cloud based environment we live in. If I need music for an airplane I save and download it in rdio. Then when landing I'm back to streaming.

I couldn't even fathom needing a 128 gig phone but more power to you.
 
iCloud is only an option if you have unlimited bandwidth. That's true for many Americans but a large minority in rural areas cannot use iCloud so heavily without exceeding their data caps.

Not sure what you mean about iPhone market value. Apple sells them at the highest margin in the business, that's for sure.

Again, were struggling with a true understating of Market Value.

Anyway, i don't want to hear about bandwidth limitations. iCloud is integral to both the iOS and OS X experience. If you can't/wont take full advantage of it, you can't take full of advantage of the experience you were meant to have with the device.

It is not my experience that data caps are so severe as to impede iCloud usage.

If you tell me your ISP offers a measly few GB per month to you at slow speeds....then don't tell iPhone is the problem.
 
"30 basis points" ... 0.3% ?

Do you think so? Because I actually expect banks and ISOs to facilitate the credit card processing. Because eventually, Apple would get way too powerful, I don't think issuers and banks would approve of this (and they are clearly on board). In addition, I think the FCC would have issue with Apple controlling, virtually, the entire mobile payments system.

Apple has also never worked in the credit card processing business, which suggests to me that they won't for now.
 
Was team iPhone for many years, my last iPhone was the iPhone 5. I love the direction they were going with the larger screens... Last summer I got myself the s4 and fell in love with the larger screen then eventually got the note 3 which I own and using now. Don't get me wrong the specs in Samsung Kill apple in every department but It's true over time the phones do lag and force shut down. The note 4 is a decent upgrade but I'm going back to Apple and getting the 6 plus
 
I am die hard Apple all the way, but eliminating the 32gb slot and keeping 16gb as the low end was low. Period. I was planning on buying 32 gb anyway. 32 is what I need - for 3 phones.
I thought there would be a 16gb, but I was planning on buying the second level. Even though this is working out better for me.. getting 64 for the 32gb price, I just think that keeping 16gb around was a low blow. It makes no sense.:(

No sense really... You want 32gb but you dont like 64gb on the same price?
 
I will pre-order 2 gold iPhone 6 an 4.7 and a 5.5 :cool: and for the rest of you fans of SAMSUNG plastic innovators...move on :cool:
Wait, I will match this phones with 2 gold watched next year when they will araive :cool:
 

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I have Android and iOS devices, pretty much running identical apps. The Apps are equivalent. Two years ago this wasn't the case, but it is now.

Eh... I'm not sure I agree with this at all. Other than Google's apps I can't think of anything that isn't superior or mostly superior in iOS. The headline apps that every uses are pretty close but once you go outside the popular iOS has, in my experience, so much more and generally higher quality at that.
 
Everyone appreciates your sacrifice for the greater good.
ONE person out there will enjoy not needing to wait for a delayed phone because of you.

You are the man.

I agree with the guy though. I don't like the protruding camera b/c it can break easier. I can get over the antenna breaks (case), but the protruding camera? No thanks
 
SD cards are going the way of the Do Do on Android ecosystem. As of Kit Kat 4.4.

Google has essentially neutered the ability for 3rd party to write outside of the sandbox. This means you can use a 3rd party file explorer to move files or delete on the SD card anymore without rooting.
Then again, Google is making moves to even prevent that in root.
It is all about sandboxing. Google it. I discovered that on my current phone when I upgraded to 4.4

So the biggest selling point of Android for me (SD card), is pretty much gone.

Google is not preventing root in any way, and wont. If they do some of their most paid apps will no longer have a place in the play store. It's actually your carrier trying to lock you out of root(that's why international models receive root access first). My note 3(4.4.2) writes apps to my SD card without any issues. Also google isn't sandboxing anything that's why google maps can take traffic info from other installed nav. apps like waze. Your knowledge on android is as reliable as icloud for celebrities(not good).
 
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