Apple CEO Tim Cook: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus Will Trigger 'Mother of All Upgrades'

[applegeek97]

Hopefully apple.com won't crash

 

[rantor49]

Not with 1 gig of ram I ain't

Why, because it's "one less"! It dosent go to 11!! Boooo

 

[Poisonivy326]

I think it's pretty strange that Tim Cook is continuing to intentionally reduce Apple's cachet by transforming what was once a solidly upper middle class brand into a brand that "sells" free plastic phones and phablets, a device specification reserved for the poor in both the 3rd World and Western nations.

Phablets are great for the poor, across the board, because one device can be used for multiple purposes; those with money can afford specialized devices to serve particular use cases. In the U.S., phablets are also a boon for the poor because most of them are obese and have trouble using their fat, greasy sausage fingers on a reasonably sized screen. For the American poor/obese, carrying such a large device around isn't problematic because they buy gigantic clothing with gigantic pockets; those with money tend to be in better health and to wear stylishly form fitting clothing that obviously is not accented with pockets larger than one's hands.

And I don't know who that watch is targeted at because the only people who still wear watches in any significant numbers are wealthy people who wear very expensive watches and they will not be trading them in for a novelty that only functions as a parasite to a huge phone made for huge poor people.

This just seems like another misstep in a staggering path of them for Cook and I'll be curious to see if the board forces him out in time to turn things around for the company.

Get help. Phablets are great for the far-sighted like me.

 

[Dominicanyor]

Apple should of drop the 16GB and started from 32GB.

 

[rantor49]

I think it's pretty strange that Tim Cook is continuing to intentionally reduce Apple's cachet by transforming what was once a solidly upper middle class brand into a brand that "sells" free plastic phones and phablets, a device specification reserved for the poor in both the 3rd World and Western nations.

Phablets are great for the poor, across the board, because one device can be used for multiple purposes; those with money can afford specialized devices to serve particular use cases. In the U.S., phablets are also a boon for the poor because most of them are obese and have trouble using their fat, greasy sausage fingers on a reasonably sized screen. For the American poor/obese, carrying such a large device around isn't problematic because they buy gigantic clothing with gigantic pockets; those with money tend to be in better health and to wear stylishly form fitting clothing that obviously is not accented with pockets larger than one's hands.

And I don't know who that watch is targeted at because the only people who still wear watches in any significant numbers are wealthy people who wear very expensive watches and they will not be trading them in for a novelty that only functions as a parasite to a huge phone made for huge poor people.

This just seems like another misstep in a staggering path of them for Cook and I'll be curious to see if the board forces him out in time to turn things around for the company.

Wow, you are so far up your own ass you can't think straight. What an egotistical blowhard you are. Just wow.

 

[rdlink]

Yes, like my upgrade to the Galaxy Note 4

I'm so sorry.

 

[Digital Skunk]

That may be one of the worst analogies I've ever read.

You should talk.

Need I remind you of your inaccurate use of the car analogy that you never cease to toss around?

 

[rdlink]

I don't see much in there to tempt Android users across. They've had many of these features and bigger screens for a while. I'll probably upgrade my 5s but I'm already in the Apple eco system.

Well, if you'd ever had to use an Android phone, especially in an enterprise environment you would see plenty.

 

[the8thark]

Cook is right. Apple is fuelling the phablet craze.

I might even be forced to get the smaller iPhone 6. (Hurts to call it a phone). Sure it's a gimped version of the larger phone specwise but the large one is just a joke screen size wise.

I'll have to try it out in store after the initial rush for them dies down. I'll show the Apple store person my iPhone 1 and make him go "wow you still use that ancient thing". See if he can sell me the smaller iPhone 6.

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Makes no sense whatsoever.

Makes perfect sense. Apple was unwilling to beat the phablet craze with a better phone sized phone so they joined the phablet craze with their own phablets.

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Hmm, not sure about that. The reaction seems to be tepid amongst the Apple fans I know. It's not enough to get me to upgrade my 4S either and even the regular "6" is just too big for me. Androids have been tempting but I feel stuck to iOS now.

Well said. I agree 100%. That's exactly how I feel.

 

[Manzzle]

Some of my let downs:

1.) After reading all the specs I'm still wondering why in the hell they didn't boost both cameras pixel up to like at least 10mp and 2mp? It's still only 8mp and 1.2mp? Still can't shoot in 4K!

2.) I was looking to get a gold iPhone since I still have the iPhone 5 in silver, never upgraded to the 5S. Well it looks UGLY now on the iPhone 6 with those white bikini lines. I'll have to go with the black version.

3.) The price of the phone. When I look at what I would get, I'm almost paying $1,000 for an 8mp larger screen iPhone 5C/5S. In NYC after sales tax for a iPhone 6 Plus 64gb that's about $925.

 

[majkom]

Apple knows what they are doing. The iPhone 6 only has 1 GB because it only really needs that amount. iOS 8 will be even more optimized and the fastest phone on the planet with the A8 chip.

The only people who look at specs closely are Android fanboys. I love specs - on a computer - but I don't care about them on a phone or tablet as long as said phone/tablet can run all my apps without lagging.

LOL - of course, all of us wanting 2 gigs are android fanboys, all macs, iphones and apple accessories we got home are just decoys to mask we got android in our hearts or you are just too blind to see that apple is selling rubbish now - 1 gig ram is crashing apps on my iphone, makes my iphone/ipad constantly refreshing tabs in safari etc etc... and by the way, i do really enjoyed moment when they showed one hand usage of those giant iphones, that was so nonApple and akward... after few years I must admit, there is no new Steve there in Apple and that is going to hurt Apple much;(

 

[Tech198]

mother of all upgades my foot...

Its just a larger screen with iOS 8.... Most of the tech specs are the same

 

[Oletros]

Apple was beating then just fine at 4", with revenue and profits that exceed every Android vendor on Earth put together. Now, Apple is ready to annihilate the high end of the Android market. By this time next year, the most expensive Android you can get will be $300 and will run an obsolete version of Android on obsolete hardware. There just aren't going to be enough die-hard fandroids to keep the $500 flagship Android phones alive. Most people bought Android for size or price, now it will just be the latter.

One of the rare insightful posts here. You are indeed correct. Buying Android is actually only a conscious decision using real brain cells less than 10% of the time. The rest its either someone who couldn't care less taking whatever the guy at the kiosk gives them for free, or some poor person from a country where a decent phone isn't on the table. However, there are 3 kinds of thoughtful Android buyers-

1) Size- these ones will now switch
2) Cost- will stick to Android but the race to the bottom will mean they will soon be buying Android phones sold at cost, so not an important market for someone who wants to run a good business
3) People living in Google's garden of pure ideology- "Google is teh open" and all that. Of course evidence is piling up that Google is among the most wicked companies you can buy from (they hate privacy, net neutrality, and they've slapped Android OEMs with all sorts of restrictions on what they can do with Google's 'open' platform), so this group should dwindle with time.

You're playing a script, don't you?

 

[alhedges]

I think it's pretty strange that Tim Cook is continuing to intentionally reduce Apple's cachet by transforming what was once a solidly upper middle class brand into a brand that "sells" free plastic phones and phablets, a device specification reserved for the poor in both the 3rd World and Western nations.

This is idiotic. iPhones have never been "upper middle class". iPhones are dirt cheap. Students buy them. Anyone who isn't in the underclass can afford them - perhaps with some savings.

Upper middle class is being able to buy a $60k Lexus as opposed to a $20,000 Kia. Being able to pay $199, $299, or even $399 for a phone every other year is not a marker of the upper middle class.

 

[rdlink]

So why does the Safari browser allow so many tabs if we're not actually 'allowed' to use them? Why does my iPhone offer multitasking if I'm supposed to make sure all other apps and Safari tabs are closed? It's either a smartphone 'computer in a pocket', or it isn't. I can use a 2-year old Android phone in a manner that I can't use an iPhone 6? RAM solves this problem and it's cheap as chips. Oh and the other area where your argument falls down is that you state we should be using a different device. Ah, so you mean an iPad with the same 1GB of RAM?

Funny, I use a 1 year old Android Galaxy at work (for testing), and I can't do things as smoothly with it as I can my iPhone. Androids have more hardware because they need it to keep the axles from breaking.

 

[MacMulti]

No, Tim Cook. I won't be upgrading to a huge phone with garish antenna lines.

yea, lines at the back don't look apple to me.

but im sure the like factor may change, just like 3gs to 4. now 4s is still my best voted for design, comparing up to 5s.

 

[RobertMartens]

No, Tim Cook. I won't be upgrading to a huge phone with garish antenna lines.

Garish? did you just say garish?

 

[iPhysicist]

OK, this is something I will never forgive Apple.

They just pushed this stupid ****** U2 Album onto all of my devices.

Forcing me to download this crappy music is unacceptable.


What's next? Justin Bieber showing up in my Library, because they struck a deal with the record label?

They don't force you. It's just listed as 'recently bought' but does not take away one byte until you download it. You can hide content not actually on your device.

You don't buy all the stuff yu see in commercials, or do you?

 

[rGiskard]

I think it's pretty strange that Tim Cook is continuing to intentionally reduce Apple's cachet by transforming what was once a solidly upper middle class brand into a brand that "sells" free plastic phones and phablets, a device specification reserved for the poor in both the 3rd World and Western nations.

Too bad you no longer have anything to use for a phone that isn't also used by the unwashed masses.

btw, a lot of people who aren't "upper middle class" use Apple products. They just skimp on other luxuries to afford Apple products, or they buy used Apple products. So that guy next to you in line at Starbucks, the one with a MacBook Pro, he might be in a lower class than you. Think about it: you never know when a Mac user might be in a lesser class than yourself!

 

[kerrikins]

That is what Apple fanboys told about the 3.5" then 4" screens. That is what they said about NFC. That is what they said about everything else that Apple lacked till Apple gave it to them. No wonder SJ thought customers do not know what they want until we gave them. Only problem is now they are being given those by others..

Sure I like their Apple pay initiative.
I like their iPhone 6.
Not so much their Apple watch but it might sell in droves, not because it is the best but because its customers are loyal. Good for Apple not so much for the customers..

Eh.

Someone had a really good point about the 1GB of RAM. Do I wish that they had upgraded it? Yes. However some people have pointed out that developers tend to take advantage of the RAM that they expect users to have. If developers start creating apps with 2GB of RAM in mind but most iDevices have 1, what do you think will happen to performance and user satisfaction?

I imagine that we'll probably see more RAM in time for the 6S release or the 7, with the idea that the processors in the 5S, 5C, 6 and 6+ are better able to withstand updates going forward.

 

[rGiskard]

Some of my let downs:

1.) After reading all the specs I'm still wondering why in the hell they didn't boost both cameras pixel up to like at least 10mp and 2mp? It's still only 8mp and 1.2mp? Still can't shoot in 4K!

2.) I was looking to get a gold iPhone since I still have the iPhone 5 in silver, never upgraded to the 5S. Well it looks UGLY now on the iPhone 6 with those white bikini lines. I'll have to go with the black version.

3.) The price of the phone. When I look at what I would get, I'm almost paying $1,000 for an 8mp larger screen iPhone 5C/5S. In NYC after sales tax for a iPhone 6 Plus 64gb that's about $925.

MP aren't a good measure of camera quality. When reviews are in, don't be surprised if the iPhone 6+ has the best camera of any phone available. There are some test shots up on macrumors front page comparing the iPhone 6 to some other phones, and low light performance is amazing. Look at the sky and the lights - where the other phones blow the sky and lights, the 6 captures sky detail and the lights are crisply defined.

 

[scott523]

iPhone 6 will definitely not trigger my upgrade. Besides that my contract doesn't end for another year, the protruding camera and the maturity of Pay will be enough for me to hold my 5S for another year or two.

 

[26139]

Huh?

Why? I don't want one. I'll stick with the 5S. I don't want to break my camera.

How are you going to...

 

[allanfries]

They turned out very nice, despite the rumours.

 

[rmbpuser]

id like to see the phone being used while it is lying flat on a table!