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it is Tim Crook that started shoving down our throat his disgusting communist agenda instead of releasing new and revolutionary Mac Mini, Mac Pros etc.

Instead of releasing new products Tim asks us for money for racist organizations like the
Southern Poverty Law Center

Hilarious. When you don't have an argument, hyperbolize. "Communist agenda"? Haha. The McCarthy is strong with you.

When has Tim Cook ever asked you to donate to the SPLC?

This post is pretty amusing.
 
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They can be treated like people in their own country.

Really for most of them they ARE in their own country...the only one they have ever known. The one they have been educated and raised in, same as everyone else. The ones that some are even defending in the military even. That's right...some of them are defending your butt even though you will not do the same for them. :rolleyes:

And you don't want them to be treated like people in the U.S.? Wow. I guess unfortunately it is very human to be inhumane to others which is really quite sad and disgraceful for us as a species. We should strive for more than that. Even illegals are still human beings. Show some compassion for a fellow human being for crying out loud everyone!
 
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"American" typically means a citizen of the United States of America. Just like Mexican means a citizen of Mexico and Italian means a citizen of Italy. I'm sure you knew this but wanted to show off your ability to parse statements to fit your own goals.

BWW, what would you call a citizen of the USA? A Unitidian? A Statian? American is the accepted terminology.

American is the accepted term in the United State of America. Go to central or south america and people there refer to themselves as american, i would know because my family is from central america. You call a citizen of the USA a united states citizen. And stating that you are Italian or Mexican doesn't mean you are a citizen of that country, it means you either have lineage or grew up there. Citizenship and place of origin are two different things and you can have one without the other My mother is a citizen of the United States, but she is not from the United States, she is from Panamá.
 
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This from a President who proudly boasted how he paid no federal taxes for years and is married to an immigrant.

A, he was allowed to do so- as anyone can who owns and runs a business- by deferring taxes due to losses. B, he has never been against immigrants, nor has the Right for that matter. Legal vs illegal immigration (and a Congressional body that won't do anything about the latter) are two very different things.
 
Maybe Cook should renounce his US citizenship if he is so offended by our constitutional rule of law. I know the public education system is failing us. Sad that masses of Americans are too ignorant and divorced from the fact that we are a country of laws. Opinions and "feelings" are NOT laws. Anybody is free to pour all the rersouces they want to in support of what they feel is right. Demanding that the US gvt. BORROW tens of billions over and over again to support and underright the many costs associated with mass, illegal immigration and its generational consequences is WRONG. People really believe that money appears out of thin air. There is a piper and he will be paid. As an American haul off and try to "occupy Mexico" or some other country and see what happens? This is total BUNK.
 
A, he was allowed to do so- as anyone can who owns and runs a business- by deferring taxes due to losses. B, he has never been against immigrants, nor has the Right for that matter. Legal vs illegal immigration (and a Congressional body that won't do anything about the latter) are two very different things.

Tell that to the middle east ban he did, and don't give me some nonsense of how it wasn't a Muslim ban, because it clearly was.
 
Quite the opposite. Regular church attenders and political conservatives donate more of their money and time to charities than non-religious liberals, on average.

Love to see the statistics on this. Betting it's not as statistically skewed as you think. If you're going to claim something, back it up with facts. Otherwise it's just opinion.
 
This right here is why I am willing to pay more for Apple products. When social issues rise that hurt their employees, they are not afraid to stand up for what is right.
 
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Actually it is not in the constitution at all, it was a court ruling that defined it. To me logic would dictate that if at least one parent is a citizen, then the child should be a citizen, otherwise no citizenship for the child.
14th amendment
 
I'll be blunt, if you were here illegally, you should have been deported, but again it sounds like you took the steps necessary to become legal and that is where I take issue with this program is many of these people aren't even attempting to become legal.


You realize the law that they are repealing DID make them legal right? Thus, the entire point. Trump hates immigrants which is hilarious since his wife is one of them. And yes, she came here illegally too.
 
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More liberal crying, Trump was elected president of the United States... 100% legally, now he can do what he wants the next 4 years and you will like it. No? Then you have a chance in 2020 to put in your favorite Marxist

He was elected legally, but "now he can do what he wants the next 4 years and you will like it" is not how this works. You know that quite well.

Let's all calm down. The majority of us are not polarized, so we shouldn't act like it. We don't all agree on every topic, but we likely agree on many. The disagreements are where we discuss with civility and then I give on some and you give on some. We both won't like it 100%, but we will move forward.
 
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"... should not be punished for being here illegally."

Yeah, that whole pesky law thing. Why should people have to follow the law, anyway? I guess Liberal Democrats are above the law, unless of course they MAKE the laws, in which case everyone must follow them to the letter. Sanctuary, "dreamers"...all very nice, fluffy euphemisms.

Why should someone be punished for illegally taking possession of that Mercedes?
 
You realize the law that they are repealing DID make them legal right? Thus, the entire point. Trump hates immigrants which is hilarious since his wife is one of them. And yes, she came here illegally too.

Not exactly. DACA (not a law but an EO) deferred actions such as deportation.
 
Tell that to the middle east ban he did, and don't give me some nonsense of how it wasn't a Muslim ban, because it clearly was.

You're right, it was a ban. A ban on people coming from 3rd world ********s with little to no functioning governments (which means it's very difficult for the US government to vet these people), are rife with violent cartels, drug lords, terrorists, and have civil wars going on.

Nice places, right? You'll have to forgive me for not wanting that coming through our front door.

EDIT: Yes, it was entirely justified.
 
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Just read this and it's spot on:

DACA does not cost taxpayers any money and they do not receive federal aid. They pay 2 billion in taxes a year. They have not committed any crime as well. Ending DACA results in costing 60 billion dollars to deport them all and costs the economy 150 billion a year. Trump is just appealing to his racist base of about 25% of his voters. Those Dreamers are getting an education...something Trump supporters lack.


When I read rhetoric like this I feel a lot of Americans are dealing in their minds with an simplistic and abstract idea of immigration and all of it's effects.

Here in Canada immigration and the de facto residency provided by 10 year tourist visas has had the effect of driving the middle class out of major cities such as Vancouver. Housing, childcare and food have become unaffordable for those making average salaries here.

It's not just an issue of whether or not immigrants are working or staying out of trouble with the police, it's also their effect on supply and demand and how their economic activity distorts the entire nations economy. Immigration is always, always at the expense of the existing working class.

Canada being a much smaller place than the USA allows you to see this all very clearly. And here is a little premonition: All it's going to take is a a flood of illegals from the USA and a mismanaged interest rate hike or two to slow the housing bubble and the construction industry and we will have the current government here gone.
 
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what if 800,000 Americans with kids try to illegally cross into mexico and demand free healthcare, education while taking jobs from the Mexican people and demand citizenship ?

what if these 800,000 Americans will start protesting against the Mexican president and call any Mexican person that doesn't legalize them racist/bigot/xenophobe etc ?

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In Mexico anyone who tries to cross the Mexican southern border is tortured, shot and killed in no time (no Tim's DACA crazy welfare ideology on taxpayer money)
 
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Ask the Native Americans how they felt about uncontrolled immigration...

History is repeating itself and the Left wants it to happen to an established nation.

So transparent and pathetic.

Hey Tim: perhaps you can hire those dreamers in the country they're deported to.
 
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