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Because they say that? You believe them, good for you!
No hackers have found otherwise yet - and Apple got caught throttling.

More to the pint they don't need your biometrics and the government doesn't need them other - "we" give more than enough data freely to be tracked and manipulated without our fingerprints.
 
I am not political.
Launched homosexual pride watch bands/faces.
:rolleyes:

Gay people are not a political party.
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Hehehe!! In that case he would do well in keeping his sexuality for his private life, like most of us do. Mr. Cook is the CEO of one of the most famous companies worldwide, not just another John Doe giving a speech in a park. Anything he says has a huge impact in the media worldwide. He knows it and sure you know it too. Besides, what he considers, only he knows.

Like most do? Nonsense. Get back to me when straight people can get fired Or have their career stalled as part of regular business for openly putting a picture of their spouse on their desk in this country. I don’t get why something that simple is too hard for some people to handle, and even this basic acknowledgement that gay pride is happening is as well. Grow up. Seriously.
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The Russians!
Your Russian boogeyman does not care about a Mac and iPhone wank site.

But they certainly do hate gay people over there.
 
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I dare Tim Cook to say this in a speech in China..

Why should he? He’s an American and most Americans believe in a different way of life than China has. Reagan still had a functional relationship with Gorbachev while very strongly criticizing their government and way of life. He didn’t give the speeches in Moscow and still was able to do business there.
 
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Why should he? He’s an American and most Americans believe in a different way of life than China has. Reagan still had a functional relationship with Gorbachev while very strongly criticizing their government and way of life. He didn’t give the speeches in Moscow and still was able to do business there.
I have never seen Tim criticizing Chinese government or the way of life. Has he?
 
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They are not service -based - there was an article on someone who asked and got all data Apple had on them, a ridculously small amount...

I mentioned Apple's services because some people here tout Apple now as a service company (Siri, iTunes, Apps, movies, etc).

Aside from that, I was also surprised by how little data Google had on me. I neglected to mention that most of the 3 GB was actually just my Google Drive documents. Other than that, it only knew some of my plus contacts (when it was popular) and YouTube views because I allowed Google to keep tabs on both of those.
 
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Apple CEO Tim Cook this evening sat down for an exclusive interview with CNN's Laurie Segall, where he discussed everything from his iPhone usage habits to the importance of privacy.

On the subject of device usage, Cook says that when he started using the new Screen Time feature built into iOS 12, he found he was spending too much time on the iPhone. "I found I was spending a lot more time than I should," he said. "I thought I was fairly disciplined about this. And I was wrong."

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Cook said that Apple is aiming to provide the tools to consumers to let them make their own decisions about device usage, and what's considered too much will vary from person to person. He said that while Apple wants customers to be "incredibly satisfied and empowered," it's not the goal to get customers to spend all of their time on iOS devices.Cook reiterated his stance on privacy, and called it a "fundamental human right," as he has done in the past. He said it's "not healthy" to point a finger at companies like Facebook, and instead, we should be focusing on making the web an "unbelievable place."Cook said customers can trust Apple to be "on their side." "We're the trusted adviser and company here," he said, explaining that people are not fully aware of how their data is being used and who has access to it. "I think this needs to be addressed."

The interviewer asked Cook whether or not he was concerned about machines taking over the world, and he said it's not something that he worries about. Instead, he is concerned about people becoming more machine-like.Cook said he doesn't consider himself to be political, and suggested that he would not run for political office.He also said that he believes Steve Jobs would support Apple's current trajectory when asked how Jobs would feel "about this moment in time."Several snippets of Cook's full interview, which cover topics like DATA, immigration, tariffs, and more, are available over on CNN and are well worth checking out for those who want to see everything Cook had to say this evening.

Cook also did a separate interview with NPR, which covered topics like privacy, rumors that Apple had access to Facebook users' personal information, the new Screen Time feature, and the Trump administration.

Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook: 'Privacy is a Fundamental Human Right'
[doublepost=1528212541][/doublepost]I love Tim Cook and Apple. The majority of these negative comments are likely from people under 30 who don't remember the 90's.
 
While I have been critical of Tim in the past, I was actually quite impressed by him at the WWDC, his privacy spiel, the clarity on keeping MacOS separate from iOS, like the idea of bring iOS apps to run on MacOS (why not!?) , and the general coolness of the whole MacOS demo. Refreshing and actually quite exciting.
 
Gay people are not a political party.

Shoving never ending homosexual pride (and corresponding paraphernalia) is however making a political statement.
It is shoving a specific type of homosexuality (that has a political agenda generally founded in intolerance) into the public square.

There are plenty of homosexuals who do no ascribe to this. Yes, it is a political movement and a political statement.
 
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Shoving never ending homosexual pride (and corresponding paraphernalia) is however making a political statement.
It is shoving a specific type of homosexuality (that has a political agenda generally founded in intolerance) into the public square.

There are plenty of homosexuals who do no ascribe to this. Yes, it is a political movement and a political statement.

I don't think it is political in terms of "Dem" or "GOP" - as both have accepted the gay community for most part. Any statement made by anyone to someone else is a "political statement" in the most wide definition.
 
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The companies that steal private user-data are the most profitable companies on the planet. They will be allowed to continue, for that one reason. Wall Street loves them.

so does the FBI for that matter... That's why they love Facebook.. "We struck gold !!"
 
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Gay people are not a political party.
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Like most do? Nonsense. Get back to me when straight people can get fired Or have their career stalled as part of regular business for openly putting a picture of their spouse on their desk in this country. I don’t get why something that simple is too hard for some people to handle, and even this basic acknowledgement that gay pride is happening is as well. Grow up. Seriously.

The fact that I may disagree with you does not -necessarily- make me a child, but thanks for your kind advice anyway. Seriously.

In my several decades on this planet I've seen people fired for many reasons. People can be targeted for being gay. Other times it's because they are brilliant. There are people who try to destroy you -personally- simply because you are better than them. Even when you are a straight white man. Or a brown midget. You don't need to belong to certain minority to suffer persecution and have your life ruined by people, you know? And don't come now claiming that the gay community has passed through so much and that any comparison is insulting. I cannot stand those who try to monopolize suffering pretending that their pain is more pain than yours. Life is tough... mostly because of people. All kinds of people, not only straight white people. People in general are mediocre and very selfish no matter their race or sexual orientation. You should know that by now as a grown up.

With respect to Tim Cook, I don't like where he is taking Apple. The fact that he shows up so many times taking about the environment, gays or human rights when his most loyal customers are complaining vehemently with almost no response (for years in some cases) sounds insulting to me, but as I've been saying, it's just my personal opinion.
 
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Says the guy who negotiated a secret deal to have Google pay Apple over $1B per year to make Google the default search engine on Safari on iOS. Apple may not be invading our privacy but they sure don't mind being enriched by letting other companies do it for them.
Google is the best search engine. Apple wants the best for it's customers. If you don't like it, change the default search engine.
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I don't see Tim Cook as a political person. Maybe relative to Jobs but I'd rather have Cook's advocacy than Jobs'. Things that he's spoken out about are largely about values important to Apple and things that I think most people agree about. Climate change, DACA, privacy, gay rights, etc. I'd rather have someone of his importance defending these important issues than ignoring them. I agree that he would not do well in the political arena though, I think that's more of what he's saying.
You think most people agree on those issues because the media only gives airtime to those who agree with it.
 
Google is the best search engine. Apple wants the best for it's customers. If you don't like it, change the default search engine.

And what about people who aren't aware of Google's privacy-invading business model to make an informed privacy decision? How is Apple protecting them from that, esp when they claim to be protecting users' privacy? And when they're getting paid billions of dollars not to protect their privacy in this instance?
 
That's exactly what you are saying though. As long as Apple allows an option to change search engines buried in the settings its okay to make Google the default and accept money. So they could accept money from Uber and Facebook and allow data mining on their platforum by offering an option to disable it in settings.
That still doesn’t make them hypocritical. Apple is not passing your personal info upstream, you are. Whether Apple gets paid 1B, 10 cents or free the outcome is exactly the same.
 
And what about people who aren't aware of Google's privacy-invading business model to make an informed privacy decision? How is Apple protecting them from that, esp when they claim to be protecting users' privacy? And when they're getting paid billions of dollars not to protect their privacy in this instance?
They're not getting paid billions of dollars not to protect your privacy. They're getting paid billions of dollars to provide you with the best search engine available by a long shot. The fact that the best search also mines every bit of data possible is unfortunate, but anyone using these devices and websites can do their own research and make an informed decision if they want to.
 



Apple CEO Tim Cook this evening sat down for an exclusive interview with CNN's Laurie Segall, where he discussed everything from his iPhone usage habits to the importance of privacy.

On the subject of device usage, Cook says that when he started using the new Screen Time feature built into iOS 12, he found he was spending too much time on the iPhone. "I found I was spending a lot more time than I should," he said. "I thought I was fairly disciplined about this. And I was wrong."

timcookcnninterview-800x426.jpg

Cook said that Apple is aiming to provide the tools to consumers to let them make their own decisions about device usage, and what's considered too much will vary from person to person. He said that while Apple wants customers to be "incredibly satisfied and empowered," it's not the goal to get customers to spend all of their time on iOS devices.Cook reiterated his stance on privacy, and called it a "fundamental human right," as he has done in the past. He said it's "not healthy" to point a finger at companies like Facebook, and instead, we should be focusing on making the web an "unbelievable place."Cook said customers can trust Apple to be "on their side." "We're the trusted adviser and company here," he said, explaining that people are not fully aware of how their data is being used and who has access to it. "I think this needs to be addressed."

The interviewer asked Cook whether or not he was concerned about machines taking over the world, and he said it's not something that he worries about. Instead, he is concerned about people becoming more machine-like.Cook said he doesn't consider himself to be political, and suggested that he would not run for political office.He also said that he believes Steve Jobs would support Apple's current trajectory when asked how Jobs would feel "about this moment in time."Several snippets of Cook's full interview, which cover topics like DATA, immigration, tariffs, and more, are available over on CNN and are well worth checking out for those who want to see everything Cook had to say this evening.

Cook also did a separate interview with NPR, which covered topics like privacy, rumors that Apple had access to Facebook users' personal information, the new Screen Time feature, and the Trump administration.

Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook: 'Privacy is a Fundamental Human Right'
[doublepost=1528257327][/doublepost]And it is in the constitution
 
That still doesn’t make them hypocritical. Apple is not passing your personal info upstream, you are. Whether Apple gets paid 1B, 10 cents or free the outcome is exactly the same.
Customers are being nudged into giving the info which is why Google pays Apple. If you buy a new iPhone, Google will flash a prompt to sign up for a Google account on your very first Google search. And the average customer who has no knowledge of these things would do so.

Imo this amount Google pays Apple is just like a bribe to stay as the default search engine on ios. You could pretty much justify any move Apple makes if it involves cash. Just pay money and get it sorted.
 
Customers are being nudged into giving the info which is why Google pays Apple. If you buy a new iPhone, Google will flash a prompt to sign up for a Google account on your very first Google search. And the average customer who has no knowledge of these things would do so.

Imo this amount Google pays Apple is just like a bribe to stay as the default search engine on ios. You could pretty much justify any move Apple makes if it involves cash. Just pay money and get it sorted.
I think the average person knows what Google's up to. It's all any news organization talks about anymore. People have access to information (using their phone) and they need to make the decision on what's best for them. Apple can't protect people from themselves to this degree, by restricting their feature set. The information is out there in a pretty loud way what Google's doing.
 
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Customers are being nudged into giving the info which is why Google pays Apple. If you buy a new iPhone, Google will flash a prompt to sign up for a Google account on your very first Google search. And the average customer who has no knowledge of these things would do so.

Imo this amount Google pays Apple is just like a bribe to stay as the default search engine on ios. You could pretty much justify any move Apple makes if it involves cash. Just pay money and get it sorted.
You’re making the assumption people who use google are dumb as a door knob. And the only exposure to google is through iOS. In fact there may be one or two people who have no knowledge of the internets and are unaware of how their personal data is is used. That there maybe a small number of these people doesn’t give your counterpoint any teeth as the outcome is the same regardless of the remuneration. Not to mention one can type in google.com, bing.com etc in the search bar, if one wants to.
 
"I'm not political.", said Tim Cook.
How can this be since this TC is the most political CEO that Apple has ever had. He sticks his nose into all the "important" political issues.
I miss Steve Jobs.
Because today Political leaders are out to pass new laws that want to regulate how Apple’s operating system deals with privacy and want their own back doors. If every country wants their own back door where does this end?
 
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