Apple CEO Tim Cook Publicly Comes Out as Gay in Letter Declaring Support for Equality

[kingalexthe1st]

Has science identified a gay gene? Is it passed on the paternal or maternal RNA? Or are you just CREATING science to fit your personal belief system?

(I know the answer to that last question)

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation

'Chromosome linkage studies of sexual orientation have indicated the presence of multiple contributing genetic factors throughout the genome. In 1993 Dean Hamer and colleagues published findings from a linkage analysis of a sample of 76 gay brothers and their families.[13] Hamer et al. found that the gay men had more gay male uncles and cousins on the maternal side of the family than on the paternal side. Gay brothers who showed this maternal pedigree were then tested for X chromosome linkage, using twenty-two markers on the X chromosome to test for similar alleles. In another finding, thirty-three of the forty sibling pairs tested were found to have similar alleles in the distal region of Xq28'

Xq28 being a gene, btw.

Do you understand genetics? I know the answer to that question. Do you know about gene expression, or how one gene can have multiple effects? Or how environmental factors, including those during development, influence what genes are turned on and when? It's not as simple as one gene = one trait because it's not a blueprint; it's a recipe. It's why identical twins can look different, among other things.

Over to you....

 

[distemp]

Wow, a bit sensitive on the choice thing are we?

Just like to point out ignorance. Thanks for keeping me busy, cupcake

 

[h4ck]

"due to the controversial nature....."

this is what is wrong with america. this should not be a "controversy" - it's just ****ing life man, move on.

 

[Zeos]

Just like to point out ignorance. Thanks for keeping me busy, cupcake

lol So mature. Glad to oblige.

 

[Symtex]

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation

'Chromosome linkage studies of sexual orientation have indicated the presence of multiple contributing genetic factors throughout the genome. In 1993 Dean Hamer and colleagues published findings from a linkage analysis of a sample of 76 gay brothers and their families.[13] Hamer et al. found that the gay men had more gay male uncles and cousins on the maternal side of the family than on the paternal side. Gay brothers who showed this maternal pedigree were then tested for X chromosome linkage, using twenty-two markers on the X chromosome to test for similar alleles. In another finding, thirty-three of the forty sibling pairs tested were found to have similar alleles in the distal region of Xq28'

Xq28 being a gene, btw.

Do you understand genetics? I know the answer to that question. Do you know about gene expression, or how one gene can have multiple effects? Or how environmental factors, including those during development, influence what genes are turned on and when? It's not as simple as one gene = one trait because it's not a blueprint; it's a recipe. It's why identical twins can look different, among other things.

Over to you....

Genetics mutation is at the core of our own existence. If someone has a gene mutate that explain homosexuality, I would consider that as part of nature, therefore natural.

 

[Gasu E.]

Because that's what this all boils down to. And I don't care. I would have rather woken up this morning and not seen this at the top of macrumors. I don't think it belongs in the news. But to hear so many talk about other issues is what I am addressing. It's not social policy, tolerance, equality, etc. Its Tims junk and what he does with them. Do you think Tim Cook has any equality issues at all? Do you really think he struggles with discrimination? Come on.

Plenty of young people who are gay struggle with self-esteem issues because so many of their peers, and often their parents, are socialized to be anti-gay. So Tim is coming out as a positive role model. Is there something wrong with positive role models for subsets of the population?

 

[prominence]

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation

'Chromosome linkage studies of sexual orientation have indicated the presence of multiple contributing genetic factors throughout the genome. In 1993 Dean Hamer and colleagues published findings from a linkage analysis of a sample of 76 gay brothers and their families.[13] Hamer et al. found that the gay men had more gay male uncles and cousins on the maternal side of the family than on the paternal side. Gay brothers who showed this maternal pedigree were then tested for X chromosome linkage, using twenty-two markers on the X chromosome to test for similar alleles. In another finding, thirty-three of the forty sibling pairs tested were found to have similar alleles in the distal region of Xq28'

Xq28 being a gene, btw.

Do you understand genetics? I know the answer to that question. Do you know about gene expression, or how one gene can have multiple effects? Or how environmental factors, including those during development, influence what genes are turned on and when? It's not as simple as one gene = one trait because it's not a blueprint; it's a recipe. It's why identical twins can look different, among other things.

Over to you....

Thank you for this. Even regardless of solid proof, I am gay and I did not choose it; you can ask any gay person and you will get the same answer. Any one with common sense would agree with you and I.

When puberty hit, I had same-sex attraction and that was it. I nearly committed suicide at 14 because of the way society looked at and treated gay people, and finally came out at 15 because I was so miserable lying to family about "what girls I thought were cute" or "who I would date", etc.

 

[tbrinkma]

"Gay" is a cult. All humans are attracted to each other. I like men and women - but I do not define myself by that characteristic - which I believe is so common as to be ubiquitous amongst human beings.

Go ahead and label yourself, but don't try to force your labels on me.

But you felt perfectly free to label others.
Here's a list of just some of the labels you applied to *other* people:
gay
cult
human
men
women

 

[MEJHarrison]

I don't care what he does on his time. I just want my new phone! Should be here today.

As for his news, I don't really care. Maybe it comes from living in a very progressive city, but I find myself saying "so what"? I know so many people living with multiple "spouses" (mostly multiple women, but some with multiple men), that being gay doesn't really grab my attention. I hope he's happy.

I have better things to do with my time than worry about what complete strangers are doing. People I'll never meet who will have absolutely no impact on my life. I can hate these anonymous people for not living how I want them to or I can wish them happiness. I have a rule. I do my best to not let others control my emotions. And feeling hate (or negative emotions in general) because some stranger isn't doing what I want (not that I'd ever know if they did), is giving them control of my emotions. So I wish them happiness instead and move on. And that time spent hating can be used for more entertaining uses instead. Things that make ME happy and put a smile on MY face. We only have so much time here and someday we'll be gone. That's how I'm choosing to spend what time I have.

I'm sure my opinions will disgust some. That's fine. I'll not let you control me either. And I truly hope you have a nice day as well.

 

[osofast240sx]

If you think you "believe" that, fine. But stop expecting others to live by your own mythological "belief", it appears slightly crazy to do such a thing. I'm sure your "god" is happy with you if you just live by his rules and don't expect others to live by them.

Actually my God wants me to tell the good news. It's a requirement

 

[h4ck]

part of me wants to say "don't bother man, they're not going to get it." but part of me thinks that the more you beat it into them, eventually maybe they will.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation

'Chromosome linkage studies of sexual orientation have indicated the presence of multiple contributing genetic factors throughout the genome. In 1993 Dean Hamer and colleagues published findings from a linkage analysis of a sample of 76 gay brothers and their families.[13] Hamer et al. found that the gay men had more gay male uncles and cousins on the maternal side of the family than on the paternal side. Gay brothers who showed this maternal pedigree were then tested for X chromosome linkage, using twenty-two markers on the X chromosome to test for similar alleles. In another finding, thirty-three of the forty sibling pairs tested were found to have similar alleles in the distal region of Xq28'

Xq28 being a gene, btw.

Do you understand genetics? I know the answer to that question. Do you know about gene expression, or how one gene can have multiple effects? Or how environmental factors, including those during development, influence what genes are turned on and when? It's not as simple as one gene = one trait because it's not a blueprint; it's a recipe. It's why identical twins can look different, among other things.

Over to you....

 

[3282868]

Plenty of young people who are gay struggle with self-esteem issues because so many of their peers, and often their parents, are socialized to be anti-gay. So Tim is coming out as a positive role model. Is there something wrong with positive role models for subsets of the population?

Well stated! Thank you.

 

[Symtex]

If you beleive in that sort of silly nonsense

There is an overwhelming amount of evidence that proves that so called nonsense you are referring too.

 

[rdowns]

Your joking right? It's not only that but it's mostly that. We all interact with different genders all day. We have family members of different genders that we all love. The major difference is what gender gets to play with your fun bits. Let's be real here.

It's you're.

So following your illogic, you're saying that opposite sex marriage is mostly about the sex then.

 

[downpour]

your entitled to your own opnion. The fact remains the top scientist believe the universe is made from intilegent architecture. God is real nature is a gift from God

A very small percentage of scientists believe that, and they only believe it, because they were brought up to believe it. It has nothing to do with evidence from nature.

Over the past 400 or so years science has revealed all the natural processes that have led to the current state of the universe we see around us.

Each of these natural processes allow for the next process to develop, creating increasing complexity over time. At no point was intelligent intervention required. We now know why and how the elements form, how molecules form, how molecules interact and how they can build complex structures such as living organisms, and how and why these organisms become more complex and better adapted to their surrounding environment over time.

Intelligence itself is just another one of these processes, it isn't 'responsible' for them. In the grand scheme of things intelligence is a very recent development, and the universe could have carried on just fine without it.

Ignoring all this and saying one intelligent god or another did it, is the equivalent of still believing Santa Claus delivers your Christmas presents.

It was an entertaining story for children once upon a time, but now it's time we all grew up and started living in the real world. You only have to look around to see how much insanity, hatred and division religion causes.

Irrational hatred/fear of gay people is just one of the many problems it causes.

If we could grow out of religion, everyone on Earth would finally share the same goals, to improve our collective living standards, to reduce suffering, increase happiness and improve education. We could work together to tackle problems such as limited resources and overpopulation, rather than seeing each other as being different in one way or another and therefor our enemy.

Even if god was real, he/she/it wouldn't be so shallow as to desire worship or recognition. It would simply want us to work towards these goals anyway. Anything else would be evil, and not worthy of our worship in the first place.

 

[Takeo]

That's like saying you don't support his skin colour.

See... I'm guessing he may not see why that would be a problem either.

 

[tbrinkma]

Drinking alcohol before you're 21 is illegal too in your country. Using drugs is still illegal in most of your states. Yet, a lot of people, if not the majority, do that. Something being illegal only matters if you get caught. Besides, the law doesn't change reality...
Making discrimination illegal only means that the people who wish to discriminate are more careful about not being caught...

No, making discrimination illegal *also* gives those who are discriminated against an avenue by which to seek redress.

 

[AdonisSMU]

Stock is down 1.27. Thanks for announcing your gayness. Tim.

The whole stock market was initially down because of the fed announcement yesterday. Now it's back up.

 

[osofast240sx]

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation

'Chromosome linkage studies of sexual orientation have indicated the presence of multiple contributing genetic factors throughout the genome. In 1993 Dean Hamer and colleagues published findings from a linkage analysis of a sample of 76 gay brothers and their families.[13] Hamer et al. found that the gay men had more gay male uncles and cousins on the maternal side of the family than on the paternal side. Gay brothers who showed this maternal pedigree were then tested for X chromosome linkage, using twenty-two markers on the X chromosome to test for similar alleles. In another finding, thirty-three of the forty sibling pairs tested were found to have similar alleles in the distal region of Xq28'

Xq28 being a gene, btw.

Do you understand genetics? I know the answer to that question. Do you know about gene expression, or how one gene can have multiple effects? Or how environmental factors, including those during development, influence what genes are turned on and when? It's not as simple as one gene = one trait because it's not a blueprint; it's a recipe. It's why identical twins can look different, among other things.

Over to you....

just because it's in Wikipedia doesn't make it true!

 

[TomaxXamot]

Good on you, Tim. You have my support. I hope you have or find love in your lifetime.

 

[robbyx]

As long as you're tolerant of it, then there's no issue.

Disagree. Tolerance is nothing more than being a condescending bigot. If the poster had said he didn't support Cook's blackness (assuming Cook was black), would you respond by saying as long as he tolerates it, there's no issue?

 

[3282868]

just because it's in Wikipedia doesn't make it true!

just because it's in the bible* doesn't make it true!

* Bible: A book written by men to control men through fairy tales, folklore, fear, etc in ridiculous situations that challenge logic, reason, love and other positive human attributes

 

[isoft7]

Again, by posting this, you've indicated that you care. I'll never understand why this is a hard concept for people to understand.

And your response to my response indicates you also care... thus, confusing your entire argument.

Regardless, I care simply because Tim Cook obviously cares, thus his decision to make it known.

 

[melendezest]

The reason why you will never understand is because you didn't grow up a gay child. Can you imagine how it would feel to have homosexual THOUGHTS (doesn't require action) and to be confused by it all? To be told by society that you are wrong, "maybe I'm just going through a phase?", "I wish I was straight things would be easier". These are common thoughts of gay children. Some of these kids commit suicide before any "action" takes place because society tells them they're wrong.

I can understand being gay can and does cause suffering in individuals where the inclination is present. I can surely empathize.

But I also believe that this is a psychological issue, akin (to an extreme degree) to a person who is born, say, a psycopath. Can there be a psychopath who does not engage in murder, despite his inclinations?

I find this to be one of the more interesting things about a the Dexter series.

Can an individual born with particular inclinations overcome them? Should they even attempt to? In the case of the moral debate regarding homosexual behavior, where no one is injured (physically at least), should they?

According to the Bible, yes (That is my source of morality). It specifies what right and wrong behavior is, and that the struggle against said behavior is to be undertaken.

As a Christian, I have to constantly fight against what God says is right and what is easy for me to do. No one is immune, we all have to fight something. And we win some, lose some. Some days I'm a great Christian. Others, I fail miserably. But the key is to keep trying to please God with what we do. To love others, to bring peace, compassion, gentleness. To fight the flesh, with it's passions and desires, when it comes into contravention with what God wants for us. And to recognize and ask forgiveness when we fail.

This knowledge can and does mitigate the pain of a condition, affliction, inclination to do something. It can prevent suicide. It is the cure for hopelessness. We will not always have to fight ourselves. God promises us something better. I LOVE that promise, because I need it.

 

[robbyx]

Wow, a bit sensitive on the choice thing are we?

Anyone who thinks being gay is a choice is beneath stupid.