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And your response to my response indicates you also care... thus, confusing your entire argument.

Regardless, I care simply because Tim Cook obviously cares, thus his decision to make it known.

I do care. I think it's great. How did you misunderstand that fact so completely?
 
just because it's in Wikipedia doesn't make it true!

Doubt this will change your opinion or mind, but you should know I'm gay and I didn't choose it. When puberty came, my attraction was to the same-sex, not opposite. Plain and simple, nature and nothing I did to "be this way."

If you want to persecute a group of people for how they were born, that's on you. Yes one can "choose" not "act on same-sex" impulses, but that's the same as asking you to never touch the opposite-sex or experience that part of being a human.
 
Anyone who thinks being gay is a choice is beneath stupid.

Don't mind that troll. She's just pissy that others are happy :)

Yet you believe stuff is true because it's in the bible.

Wikipedia is more trustworthy than the bible.

At least we can check who last edited Wikipedia. Who knows how many people had a hand in crafting what is known today as the "bible?" Nevermind the fact that it has been translated and then translated from a translation so many times that there's NO way it resembles the original writings.
 
Curious about the timing of this. Why now? How will this affect the stock price and the expansion of Apple stores in countries outside the western world?
 
I can understand being gay can and does cause suffering in individuals where the inclination is present. I can surely empathize.

But I also believe that this is a psychological issue, akin (to an extreme degree) to a person who is born, say, a psycopath. Can there be a psychopath who does not engage in murder, despite his inclinations?

I find this to be one of the more interesting things about a the Dexter series.

Can an individual born with particular inclinations overcome them? Should they even attempt to? In the case of the moral debate regarding homosexual behavior, where no one is injured (physically at least), should they?

According to the Bible, yes (That is my source of morality). It specifies what right and wrong behavior is, and that the struggle against said behavior is to be undertaken.

As a Christian, I have to constantly fight against what God says is right and what is easy for me to do. No one is immune, we all have to fight something. And we win some, lose some. Some days I'm a great Christian. Others, I fail miserably. But the key is to keep trying to please God with what we do. To love others, to bring peace, compassion, gentleness. To fight the flesh, with it's passions and desires, when it comes into contravention with what God wants for us. And to recognize and ask forgiveness when we fail.

This knowledge can and does mitigate the pain of a condition, affliction, inclination to do something. It can prevent suicide. It is the cure for hopelessness. We will not always have to fight ourselves. God promises us something better. I LOVE that promise, because I need it.

Interesting, but no.

Homosexuality is found in other species. Do you think they are choosing to be gay?

You must think squirrels are brilliant.

Gay people (not people who choose to be sexually experimental or what have you) are just wired that way.

The Bible does not specifically (as you say it is the source of your morality) forbid homosexuals from being gay. Or having relationships. Or sex.

It does forbid heterosexuals from having sex with same sex partners. So, no experimentation for you. :)
 
I certainly support him as CEO of Apple. But certainly don't support his homosexuality.

Then you're crazy. But I don't mind, I respect each and everyone's opinion. But I still think you're crazy.

There are some opinions I will never respect. E.g. iPad Air's. It always amazes me that people have to involve themselves in another person's life, even when it's quite frankly none of their business, and doesn't affect anyone at all. Unless you're one of those people who think you can "catch" the gay...

Good for you, Tim. Keep on keep in' on.
 
just because it's in the bible* doesn't make it true!

* Bible: A book written by men to control men through fairy tales, folklore, fear, etc in ridiculous situations that challenge logic, reason, love and other positive human attributes
Much of the Bible has been proven to be in line with history:)Fact!
 
The bigoted voice is yours, telling others what they should or should not believe. Why can't you have some tolerance for the beliefs of others? You have zero tolerance for any beliefs that don't mesh with your own - the dictionary definition of a bigot.

This is exactly what is wrong with the gay agenda today - it's filled with hate and intolerance. Any who doesn't goose-step to the gay agenda gets attacked. The gay agenda is using the same tactics against Christians today, that the KKK used against blacks decades ago. It's pure unfiltered hate, wrapped in a rainbow colored flag.

Really? Gays are lynching Christians? Physically assaulting them to the point where their friends don't recognize them? Burning crosses on their lawns? Beating them up? Burning down their homes and churches?

The gay rights movement is, indeed, very similar to the equal rights movement back then, but you've got the sides mixed up. Gays are currently going through the same process that blacks went through back then.
 
Good on him, we need more people in power to publicly come out

If by come out you mean to speak out against inequality, I agree. If you mean they should be made to feel obligated to dump all privacy, I disagree.

Being gay isn't required to support gay rights, in fact perhaps what we really need are more proud heterosexuals supporting gay rights. Because they understand that a gay win isn't a straight loss.
 
I can understand being gay can and does cause suffering in individuals where the inclination is present. I can surely empathize.

But I also believe that this is a psychological issue, akin (to an extreme degree) to a person who is born, say, a psycopath. Can there be a psychopath who does not engage in murder, despite his inclinations?

I find this to be one of the more interesting things about a the Dexter series.

Can an individual born with particular inclinations overcome them? Should they even attempt to? In the case of the moral debate regarding homosexual behavior, where no one is injured (physically at least), should they?

According to the Bible, yes (That is my source of morality). It specifies what right and wrong behavior is, and that the struggle against said behavior is to be undertaken.

As a Christian, I have to constantly fight against what God says is right and what is easy for me to do. No one is immune, we all have to fight something. And we win some, lose some. Some days I'm a great Christian. Others, I fail miserably. But the key is to keep trying to please God with what we do. To love others, to bring peace, compassion, gentleness. To fight the flesh, with it's passions and desires, when it comes into contravention with what God wants for us. And to recognize and ask forgiveness when we fail.

This knowledge can and does mitigate the pain of a condition, affliction, inclination to do something. It can prevent suicide. It is the cure for hopelessness. We will not always have to fight ourselves. God promises us something better. I LOVE that promise, because I need it.

Let's see...you're not gay and you believe in a magic sky wizard. But you know that being gay is a psychological disorder akin to being born a psychopath???
 
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Thank you for this. Even regardless of solid proof, I am gay and I did not choose it; you can ask any gay person and you will get the same answer. Any one with common sense would agree with you and I.

When puberty hit, I had same-sex attraction and that was it. I nearly committed suicide at 14 because of the way society looked at and treated gay people, and finally came out at 15 because I was so miserable lying to family about "what girls I thought were cute" or "who I would date", etc.

This saddens me. But hey, society is better now than it was 10 years ago, and 10 years before that, right? I hope all is good with you now.
 
It doesn't really matter if you see it as norm or not, it is for me and it's being respected and protected by the institution that is relevant to me - our government which ensures my equal rights.

I agree with that fully. I do oppose the almost militant gay lobbyists who insist I agree with it or embrace it.
 

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This. Pretty much everyone knew he was gay anyway so I see this as a distraction more than anything else. His privacy is gone now.

It was already gone. Or did you miss the repeated appearances of "Tim is totally gay and needs to admit it" on the Internet. It's popped up every few months for years. Typically with detailed analysis of his life to prove it
 
From your avatar it appears you are either ginger or blonde. That is also not normal. Natural, yes, but not normal.

There is nothing wrong with it. Just because you have a different hair colour to most of the world population, doesn't make it wrong, just different.

I understand that. I don't think that is an equal comparison.
 
Again, by posting this, you've indicated that you care. I'll never understand why this is a hard concept for people to understand.




What kind of a sicko would make that connection?

You miss my point entirely. In brief, the ‘world’ has NOT changed MUCH in perceptions on social mores and values. So, yes in a tiny portion of world society it’s now ‘ok’ to announce your sexual proclivities WITHIN TIGHT PARAMETERS. it is always dangerous to swim in personal waters publicly though.

Would you be happy if we learned a CEO was into beastility or ‘water sports’ or bondage, or ‘rough sex’. Point? Apple is a corporation dependent on investors and investors are most often conservative. Thus, it can hurt or even destroy a corporation if personal values become identified in the corporate leader. Best to stay quiet and focus on the BUSINESS. That’s what the job is...not what you do to who in the bedroom.
 
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