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I wonder what he would make of the way Apple is run today and how Apple constantly fails to innovate year after year?

Obviously he would take one look at things and say "This is ****!"

Actually I'd love to know what he would have thought of the decision to abandon Apple's previous loyal base of creative professionals. He wasn't one to keep products around if they were unsuccessful and he wasn't a very sentimental guy, but would he have wanted to keep the halo effect of being the choice of creative professionals?

I don't know.
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This "rememberence" of the day Steve died is so wrong. If they wanted to pay proper tribute, celebrate his birthday. He should be remembered for how he lived, not how he died.

The next person who thinks of excusing Cook's dismantling of a once proud company on the grounds that "Steve was unique" needs to keep such thoughts to themselves. When you voluntarily take over the reigns of a company like Apple, you have an obligation to continue its tradition of excellence. Appeasing Carl Ichan and watch band enthusiasts alone doesn't cut it. The Apple looks polished on the outside for now, but it's rotting at the core.

There are others who are capable of following in Steve's footsteps. Apple would honor him best by replacing Cook with such an individual.

Well said, but I suspect the problem goes deeper than Cook. Apple bled a lot of talent after Jobs's death and many of the current VPs are followers, not leaders. They worked well with Jobs's oversight but without a domineering arsehole breathing down their necks they just don't seem to perform. Without a whole new executive team I just don't see Apple breaking out of their rut.
 
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Actually I'd love to know what he would have thought of the decision to abandon Apple's previous loyal base of creative professionals. He wasn't one to keep products around if they were unsuccessful and he wasn't a very sentimental guy, but would he have wanted to keep the halo effect of being the choice of creative professionals?

I don't know.

I'm in two minds about this. I can appreciate why people are concerned about Mac hardware updates.

But abandoning Apple's creative pros? While dropping Aperture was regrettable, Logic Pro X is hands-down the best DAW on the market; and as it happens, cheaper than almost all of them. FCPX had a rocky start, but it's really improved.
 
I'm in two minds about this. I can appreciate why people are concerned about Mac hardware updates.

But abandoning Apple's creative pros? While dropping Aperture was regrettable, Logic Pro X is hands-down the best DAW on the market; and as it happens, cheaper than almost all of them. FCPX had a rocky start, but it's really improved.

But Apple don't offer any decent hardware to run those apps on.
 
Obviously he would take one look at things and say "This is ****!"

Actually I'd love to know what he would have thought of the decision to abandon Apple's previous loyal base of creative professionals. He wasn't one to keep products around if they were unsuccessful and he wasn't a very sentimental guy, but would he have wanted to keep the halo effect of being the choice of creative professionals?

I don't know.
That slip away from professionals started under his reign, so, I don't think he would care much. Watch many of his old keynotes, he was more into bringing high end technology to the masses, something they still do today, despite the cloud of negativity that surrounds Apple these days.

But Apple don't offer any decent hardware to run those apps on.
The retina MacBook Pro and new iMacs run them just fine actually. You just have to order the higher spec models with i7 and faster graphics to make them work their best. This is just like you had to do back in the days of the G4, G5, etc.
 
THIS I genuinely do miss. However, people are crazy to think that Apple would be that much different if he were alive today. Mistakes were made while Steve was alive and they're still being made today.

Tim Cook doesn't have the same energy/charisma as Steve and that's why it's his stage presence that I miss most.

iOS wouldn't be a laggy mess on a brand new iPhone in 2016 if Steve were still around. I miss his presentations too but his absence at Apple is obviously notable with the dip in quality over the past few years. I cannot remember anyone being so complacent with their devices like we are today when he was at the helm.
 
For so long, people accused Apple users of caring more about aesthetics than real computer power. Now that Apple have an in-house chip with double the single-core performance of the competitor, people start moaning about things like bezels.

But hey, I guess 'innovate' means different things to different people.

Don't forget the protruding camera. But Swift, APFS, Touch ID, 3D Touch, etc? Just gimmicks apparently.
 
But Apple don't offer any decent hardware to run those apps on.

Eeeeeehhh... there's a bit of a storm around here about Apple not updating their Macs. But in the portables at least, the newer Intel quad-core i7s aren't really that great. In fact, even the new mobile Xeons have less grunt than the current gen sitting in the 15" rMBPs. So we'd be just as unhappy if Apple released new MacBook Pros with a lower benchmark than the previous gen.

Plus if Apple were to update them, at best we'd be looking at 5% more CPU power, while impacting Apple's cost as a result. Not to defend or make excuses for them, but it's not all that bad.

The Mac Pro? Well crumbs, Apple need to get their cheeks together about that. Should have a Xeon E5-2679 sitting in that.
 
RIP Steve. I will never forget his enthusiastic keynote presentations. The fact that people continue to bring him up is a tribute to how high he set the bar for what people expect from Apple, sometimes unfairly so. People forget Steve had many failures and not everything he did was a success. Expecting Tim Cook or anyone else to have some amazing announcement that's gonna change the tech world every single keynote is ridiculous and has gotten quite old. Everyone wants to ask how Steve would look at the company today but forget the fact that he picked Cook to take over. We have no clue what products are in the future for Apple, but to assume Steve would be totally disappointed with Apple today or to assume the product line would be extremely different if he were still around is far off in my opinion.
 
I wonder what he would make of the way Apple is run today and how Apple constantly fails to innovate year after year?

I wonder how many people like you are able to forget the years and years of tiny updates to iPods and Macs, OS X updates every 2 years etc, you all seem to forget that nothing at Apple has ever moved quickly and are quick to decry Apple purely because you have some axe to grind or are just attention seeking and like to hear the sound of your own voice. Truly a case of empty barrels making the most noise.
 
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iOS wouldn't be a laggy mess on a brand new iPhone in 2016 if Steve were still around. I miss his presentations too but his absence at Apple is obviously notable with the dip in quality over the past few years. I cannot remember anyone being so complacent with their devices like we are today when he was at the helm.
Do you remember the iPhone 4?

Sorry, but no, not everything was perfect under his reign either. People also have a real short term memory when it comes to Apple overall.
 
Do you remember the iPhone 4?

Sorry, but no, not everything was perfect under his reign either. People also have a real short term memory when it comes to Apple overall.
Yes, Steve had his faults and he laid some eggs as well, but I think overall, his vision, and ability to push people to do extraordinary things is unmatched. True that often resulted in people in getting burnt out, but I think it created many great products.
 
I have nothing but the best regards for what Steve Jobs accomplished in his life. A saying, "No Tomorrow's, No Yesterday's, only Today's". RIP Steve, we will move on.
 
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Do you remember the iPhone 4?

Sorry, but no, not everything was perfect under his reign either. People also have a real short term memory when it comes to Apple overall.

I remember the 4 vividly, yes, as it was my first iPhone and what made me fall in love with Apple. I know you're referring to the whole "antennagate" issue, though, which I didn't find an issue at all and found it to be quite overblown. But you're talking about a specific hardware flaw (which was later mostly fixed by software), not how original and great the device itself was. Obviously there were flaws even during Steve's reign, but they were just a couple of minor bugs compared to what we have today.
 
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Yes, Steve had his faults and he laid some eggs as well, but I think overall, his vision, and ability to push people to do extraordinary things is unmatched. True that often resulted in people in getting burnt out, but I think it created many great products.
I couldn't agree more.

It is my hope that some of that spark is still within the organization, and personally, I feel it is, with regards to some of the features that have been rolling out. When you take a step away from the headline features, there has still been some great innovation within MacOS, iOS, and even Watch OS. It could be Craig's group, it could be someone else, I just wished we saw more of it.

I feel / hope that we will start to see some big things going forward. They can't have that many people working for them, and a huge campus for nothing, at least I hope not!!

I remember the 4 vividly, yes, as it was my first iPhone and what made me fall in love with Apple. I know you're referring to the whole "antennagate" issue though, which I didn't find an issue at all and found it to be overblown. But you're talking about a specific hardware flaw (which was later mostly fixed by software), not how original and great the device itself was.
Actually no I am not.

I am talking about the lagging interface, software issues, etc. Steve had his RDS in full force back in those days, but, simple things like rotating the screen just didn't feel as smooth as they did on the 3GS. There were other issues with that phone, but most overlooked them due to the new design, high resolution screen, and good camera.

Here and now, Owning a 6S and a 7 currently, I don't feel any lag, and I personally feel that is overhyped. As in the case with Antennagate, I personally feel that any perceived lag on the 7 will be resolved by software optimization. This is, remember, the first phone they have done with both fast and slow cores. Perhaps they need to push a little more of the services to the fast core.
 
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You're right. We should also do away with President's Day, Memorial Day, MLK Day and any mention of people who have changed the world, but have died. No sense in paying homage to people who are no longer alive.

Did you just seriously compare a CEO of a Billion Dollar company that makes gadgets to revolutionaries, pioneers and service men/women who gave their lives for us?? lol!
 
Thank you Steve, for creating the most unique company the world has ever seen! A company which myself and countless others rate as the best company in the world.

This is a company that went from the brink of collapse, to changing the world. With products that promote both form and function and most importantly "Just work".

Thank you for creating such a dynamic team including people like Tim Cook, Jony Ive, Phil Schiller and Craig Federighi, who aren't motivated by money, and instead truly care about what they are doing. People who will only ship a product when it's ready, truly giving customers the best experience possible, and making them loyal to the company. People who keep on impressing us with new products and designs.

I don't think the world will ever see such a person again, at least in our lifetimes, that had a truly unique way of seeing the world and had such a love for what he was doing, and exuded such charisma. Someone where you would just be silent and listen to what he had to say about the world. I know I do even now, watching old videos of him online.

Despite what some people think, I still believe Apple is continuing his vision and creating products and service's that really change and enrich peoples lives everyday.

R.I.P Steve Jobs, 1955-2011 and thank you
 
Eeeeeehhh... there's a bit of a storm around here about Apple not updating their Macs. But in the portables at least, the newer Intel quad-core i7s aren't really that great. In fact, even the new mobile Xeons have less grunt than the current gen sitting in the 15" rMBPs. So we'd be just as unhappy if Apple released new MacBook Pros with a lower benchmark than the previous gen.

Plus if Apple were to update them, at best we'd be looking at 5% more CPU power, while impacting Apple's cost as a result. Not to defend or make excuses for them, but it's not all that bad.

The Mac Pro? Well crumbs, Apple need to get their cheeks together about that. Should have a Xeon E5-2679 sitting in that.

It may cost Apple money to upgrade their hardware but they're the richest company in the world and look at the money they pissed away on the Apple Car boondoggle. A fraction of that cash would have updated the entire Mac line. As for the Mac Pro it is a toy, we need a proper tower with upgradable components. Otherwise why not just offer a Xeon iMac?
 
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The retina MacBook Pro and new iMacs run them just fine actually. You just have to order the higher spec models with i7 and faster graphics to make them work their best. This is just like you had to do back in the days of the G4, G5, etc.

They may run them "just fine" but you can buy wintel hardware that runs them better.

Since when was Apple about building "just fine" products?
 
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