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When a newer model is released, that should indicate that the previous phone is no longer the flagship. The latest phone(s) that take over is considered a flagship. The iPhone 6s was the flagship for 2015 up until the iPhone 7 line got released. Then the iPhone 7 line took over as the flagship line. Just repeat that cycle for the iPhone 8 and X and any later devices.

Again - I never mentioned iPhone 6s YOU DID.

You just keep making up new arguments that aren't there.
 
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This "power management" excuse is the tip of the iceberg for the planned obsolescence of Apple mobile devices. You can not blame the battery when upgrading iOS instantly kills the most basic functions of a device. The excuse of "new features" is irrelevant, we are talking about core functionality that is being slowed down: what possible new feature can slow down typing or pressing the home button to go back to home screen?, is it because of bugs? no, bugs are errors in code that are suppose to be fixed.

Do you think all these "quality issues" with Apple software are just casualty? Truth is you only get a decent or near good experience on the latest devices (iPhone, iPad, Mac). Apple just makes stuff that works for 365 days. iOS 12 is comming.... iPhone X users, you are next.
I’m using my slightly throttled iPhone 6 Plus (original battery and all!) on iOS 11.2.2 right now mostly out of curiosity. I can’t notice much difference in performance from when it was new except some laggy animation when first bringing up Control Center, as presumably the new blurring as one opens it is rather GPU-intensive. After turning on Reduce Transparency, it goes away, but that doesn’t bother me enough to keep the setting turned on.

My iPhone 7 Plus, which has also been out for more than a year, runs perfectly on iOS 11.2.2. I expect it’ll run very well on iOS 12, too, come June.
 
Again - I never mentioned iPhone 6s YOU DID.

You just keep making up new arguments that aren't there.
I'm just explaining things. Chill, please. Also I never said that you brought up the 6s. I was bringing the 6s up myself as an example and as the fact that that's where the slowdown issue originated. To prevent automatic shutdowns on that device.
 
I'm just explaining things. Chill, please. Also I never said that you brought up the 6s. I was bringing the 6s up myself as an example and as the fact that that's where the slowdown issue originated. To prevent automatic shutdowns on that device.

and to further annoy this whole point - the iPhone 6s whether it be a flagship - non flagship - mid-tier or whatever anyone wants to define it as being - it is still sold brand new in the stores as a current offering from Apple ....with the possibility of needing a battery replacement a year down the road.
 
I like the work men in the background of the video ... It's better than looking at a plain background
 
Google never answered reporters questions about throttling because they do it too. Laptops do it too. This is hysteria plain and simple

here we go again with the comparisons to laptops. Laptops and phones do not equal the same thing.

Please tell me what laptops are throttling your cpu's without you knowing about it and where you cannot effectively change that?
 
You need to learn about batteries before spouting anymore BS. And stop with the “either or” logical fallacy.

A battery could be brand new, have 100% capacity, yet still get throttled because it’s defective. Capacity has nothing to do with throttling.

Congratulations you just agreed with what he posted, you don't even realise it .

85% Health / capacity = battery will charge to 100% of the 85 capacity ;)

Awesome when you try I belittle someone in a forum and logic gets in the way . Posters point was valid, I assume you misread it and got excited.
 
Being this rich has gone to their head. Back in the day I could somewhat „relate to what they r saying in public but nowadays they always come off as rich entitled brats like the Kardashians of the tech industry. Sad lol
 
You need to learn about batteries before spouting anymore BS. And stop with the “either or” logical fallacy.

A battery could be brand new, have 100% capacity, yet still get throttled because it’s defective. Capacity has nothing to do with throttling.

Congratulations you just agreed with what he posted, you don't even realise it .

85% Health / capacity = battery will charge to 100% of the 85 capacity ;)

You might be arguing with yourself here on this one ;)
 
Interesting hear-say, considering I have first hand experience with Android and do not experience any of that.

You’ve never experienced need any of that at all?

This is feedback I’ve heard from borderline anti Apple folks. Part of the reason they went with android is so they can control how their phone performs even if it is generally a crappy experience for the average user but you get the control “needed” by intelligent / not mindless Apple sheep / tech savvy power users.

This is feedback for mostly galaxy phones and nexus phones.
 
it is still sold brand new in the stores as a current offering from Apple ....with the possibility of needing a battery replacement a year down the road.

Any LiIo-based battery-driven device ever has a „possibility of needing a battery replacement a year down the road“.
 
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"According to Cook, when the power management features were first introduced in iOS 10.2.1, Apple did explain what was going on"

Another lie from Apple. They did NOT tell anyone they had slowed down their devices.

Anyone that is a logical and an independent thinker knows this.

Cook is nothing more than a politician, smile , wave , tell you what you want to hear, as long as he gets your $$$. The problem
Is that penny pinching under him lead to this action. With the throttling the "customer benefits" though Apple also benefits via upgrades and not having to replace batteries. Kind of makes you wonder who the bigger winner was here......
 
As someone who has had less than stellar luck with Apple products, but always been a fan of their marketing, I'm surprised they didn't do a better job with this. These are the people who removed a headphone jack and marketed it so that it seemed excusable.

Here if they said something like: "In order to ensure our products maintain the longest usability in the industry, we have developed an innovative technique where the longer the iPhone is used, the better it handles its power consumption. You will be able to use your phone at maximum power while plugged in and while on the go we manage the processor to achieve a great mix of power, stability, and battery life that our competition cannot meet"

Instead, they are facing lawsuits from multiple countries around the world now. Maybe even their marketing team was too busy trying to figure out how to deal with whatever ridiculous decision the engineers are pushing for the next iPhone. "We had the courage to remove the screen entirely as Siri is so advanced it can dictate everything you used to painstakingly use your eyes for."
 
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It just so happened that I hadn’t backed up in quite some time, so I lost a lot of data (though that’s my own fault).

I’m surprised by amount of family members who have iPhones and don’t turn on the free iCloud back up features.

Their phone crashes, all their “important” data is gone and blame Apple.
 
Batteries degrade over time - no one‘s doubting that. What‘s new is that their degradation doesn‘t only affect the time that the phone can run on a full load but although the system‘s stability.

I think that‘s a design and engineering flaw as the selected batteries are not capable to deliver the system‘s power requirements.
 
Any LiIo-based battery-driven device ever has a „possibility of needing a battery replacement a year down the road“.

With the throttling, you don't though, the defect can be hidden and mitigated . Though the battery should be replaced, big point of this discussion.
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I’m surprised by amount of family members who have iPhones and don’t turn on the free iCloud back up features.

Their phone crashes, all their “important” data is gone and blame Apple.

It's not free. The free tier is useless once you get in the ecosystem sadly. If you want to take advantage of iCloud , you need to pay for it. That camera in the phone takes care of the free tier real fast

In my opinion 5GB in 2018 is pointless . It's just a way to draw you in ....
 
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It's not free. The free tier is useless once you get in the ecosystem sadly. If you want to take advantage of iCloud , you need to pay for it. That camera in the phone takes care of the free tier real fast

You literally start off saying it’s not free then finish mentioning a free tier.

Either way the free tier will at least cover backing up their contacts which is arguably more more important than pictures as far as “work” and important information goes.
 
"and Cook says Apple will allow customers to turn off the power management feature in a future update, which is new information. " the most important part of this story
How hard is it to present an educated dialog upon the first detection of a battery shutdown ?
Probably 2 minutes work (as they aren't testing anyway) and a 20kB patch
Instead of all the lamentation/reluctance/overreaction to service these stupid customers...
 
Congratulations you just agreed with what he posted, you don't even realise it .

85% Health / capacity = battery will charge to 100% of the 85 capacity ;)

You might be arguing with yourself here on this one ;)


No. You also need to learn a little more about batteries.

The poster I replied to stated: “my iPhone 6 Plus’ battery is at 85% capacity and healthy due to consistent charging, but is throttled because it’s less than 100%.”

This is completely wrong. Batteries don’t get throttled at a specific level of capacity (health) or charge level. They get throttled if they’re defective and can’t supply enough current. His battery is NOT healthy as proven by the fact he’s getting throttled. Healthy batteries don’t get throttled.

We have people throttled at 85% and others running full speed at 70%. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY has ever been able to show a consistent throttling of x amount based on y % battery health or state of charge. Because those percentages are meaningless.

The number you need is the C rating of the battery, which nobody can really test. When the C rating is too low, the voltage drop of the battery under load is too high, which results in shutdowns.

As I stated above, a battery at 100% charge and at 100% health/capacity can still be defective and cause throttling.
 
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An unhealthy battery IS covered under warranty. Apple will gladly replace it if it fails a hardware test. What they won’t do is give you a free battery 3 years after you purchased the phone.

THey also won't replace a battery if it passes their test, which I discovered was pretty random. My iPhone 6 did keep shutting down randomly and battery fluctuating wildly from 90% to 30% in half hour and back to 60% as soon as i plugged it in. Still, it passed their test and no battery for me. Mind you, I was even willing to pay for it.

Conceptually, I am perfectly fine with power management as a feature. But give me the option to change a battery if I want to.
 
Batteries are consumable. Life-long lasting batteries using Li-ion do NOT exist. It is unreasonable to expect Apple to keep footing the bill to replace a battery that ages like Li-ion batteries do. Apple can detect a failing battery and a consumed battery. If it's failed, it's covered under warranty. If it's consumed, you have to buy another battery. Batteries don't last forever and they never have. Every one is hell bent on blowing this whole fiasco out of proportion because it's Apple. Get over yourselves. /rant

The problem with your rant though is Apple should also allow people, who are throwing money at them, to have their batteries replaced by them.

Every single argument anyone has come up with can easily be counter argued, because plenty have gone to the Apple store to have a poor battery replaced even offering money and told No! It passed our tests... have you seen the latest iPhone..


I will wait for the option to turn this rubbish off. Then we’ll see how bad their design flaw is....
Although I’m not sure if giving us the option to turn off this ‘feature’ is due to feedback, or an attempt to stop further fines and law suites?
 
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