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Did anyone actually read the article, meaning you subscribe to The Information? Do you really think Apple is the only company that has made multi-year deals with China or other countries? Various US companies make deals with states in similar fashions. I understand citizens want to put their country first, but none of this is news and is all too common in the world of big business.

Also can't help but laugh at how this "News Outlet" started:

"The company [The Information] held an international networking event 2016 in Beijing, where annual subscribers met with leaders from Asian companies such as electronics company Xiaomi, venture capital firm Shunwei Capital, and investment management firm Hillhouse Capital Group."

i read the article.

1. how many other companies have "as well as assistance with around a dozen Chinese government causes" ??!!
that in of itself is non-descript and concerning. Like what Government causes does Apple need to adhere/help with? Would this only mean instances of removing apps that allow disadance against the CCCP from the App Store or VPN's or ?

2. Which company is actually foolish enough, especially with the former CEO passing as a reminder about corporate going-concern, only have the current CEO dealing with international agreements and countries?!

That doesn't see like a smart corporate business practice, and really shouldn't.
 
Tim Cook is a de facto spy at this point

Actively seeking to build China’s economy and doing his best to minimise legitimate domestic taxes should see him in jail at best and Guantanamo at worst

Thanks for the chuckle. I take it you didn’t study law for long, right?
 
Disappointing behavior. In bed with China but then refusing to pay it’s fair share of taxes in almost every other country.
 
Will the Apple Board force him out over this ?

If he wasn't before, he is clearly going to be in Hot Water now !
Uh oh, did someone only read the headline and stop after "secretly"? I guarantee Cook's own board insisted on all of these concessions to win over China.
 
This is a nice thought, but no single person or company could influence the CCP. The only thing that will influence their future actions is the people of China themselves.
True. Hopefully the people of China will be more free in the future - but I have my doubts.

The CCP puts pressure on companies to do certain things if they want to sell in China. They also steal their tech and kick them out all the time. There is massive corruption within the Gov. there. Companies should use their influence to put pressure back on the CCP and help the people of China - and in doing so will help the whole world. It will take a long time. There is hope.
 
Does anyone in this thread have any background in business? It doesn’t seem that any of the commenters understand what a Memorandum of Understanding is.

An MoU is not a “deal”. It’s not a commitment to do anything. It is just what the name says: A memo containing certain facts that both parties agree are true.

Once again, MacRumors is overhyping a story to generate page views. “Journalistic ethics? What journalistic ethics?”

It was a tough task to follow up on the AirTag car thief hype that was based on 5 cases but they managed.
 
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TRADER... SELL HIS SOUL TO THE DEVIL FOR MILLIONS..............

Now I can't stand this guy even more. May even HATE him.

No wander he is so devoted to keeping all APPLE manufacturing in China.

Wait until they go to Nuclear War with us in 2025.

Then what are you gonna do APPLE? All your manufacturing is in China.

You Bet the BIG Golden Egg on China and LOST!

It’s cute that you think there’s a soul attached to American business capitalism and then go one step further and call China the devil. Hilarious!
 
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i read the article.

1. how many other companies have "as well as assistance with around a dozen Chinese government causes" ??!!
that in of itself is non-descript and concerning. Like what Government causes does Apple need to adhere/help with? Would this only mean instances of removing apps that allow disadance against the CCCP from the App Store or VPN's or ?

2. Which company is actually foolish enough, especially with the former CEO passing as a reminder about corporate going-concern, only have the current CEO dealing with international agreements and countries?!

That doesn't see like a smart corporate business practice, and really shouldn't.
Wait, do you mean that no company "provides assistance" to US government causes? Because Apple does in the US (in addition to lobbying).

Obviously China is far from perfect, but so is the US. I think many folks in this thread are unable to separate their hatred for China from the wrongdoings of other countries, namely their own.
 
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I think it’s natural that a CEO tries to secure the best deal possible for the company he works for. That is his job.

His job is not to work for your security and privacy, or to be fair to its suppliers and customers unless its aligned with profits which usually is not. His job is to conquer the “world” in context for the company … nothing else. There is little belief in causes than profit … just casuistic beliefs for imaging purposes. Steve Jobs had a technological and art vision for the future … he does not … so he mixed it with casuistic moral stances.

Now, the thing is, whoever believed in his … morals regarding people security, privacy, labor conditions and so on now know where he stands. It’s all opportunistic propaganda.

So users and customers … may your relationship with this company and it’s products be more rational … please.

I think one can enjoy a company products, and respect its history and contributions while keeping it rational over particular policies created by a team of people that in one moment is there and in the other is not.
 
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Source: https://www.verdict.co.uk/apple-supply-chain-china/

Out of the 30 countries where Apple devices were manufactured in 2020, six accounted for over 80% of annual production. China contributed 42%, followed by Japan (16%), the US (9%), Taiwan (6%), South Korea (5%), and Vietnam (4%). China’s leading position in Apple’s supply chain is attributable to several factors, including:


  • the country’s massive industrial infrastructure,
  • the availability of a large, affordable, and skilled labour force;
  • the low cost of production compared to most other countries; and
  • the ability of Chinese manufacturers to automate production lines.
According to Nikkei Asia, Apple increased its number of Chinese suppliers to 51 in 2020, up from 42 in 2018. Chinese suppliers typically offer high cost-efficiency and low turn-around time for production and increasingly focus on innovation.

China is a lucrative market for Apple​

Greater China (which includes mainland China, Hong Kong, and Taiwan) is the third-largest market for Apple by revenue, behind the Americas and Europe. In the three months to the end of March 2021, Apple reported 87% year-on-year revenue growth in the region, significantly higher than in the Americas (35% growth) and Europe (56%).

China’s affluent consumer base is a critical driver for Apple’s revenue and brand growth. According to McKinsey, over 75% of China’s urban population will be considered middle class by 2022, and Chinese consumers will account for about 40% of global spending on luxury goods by 2025. Thus, China will be a vital market for Apple in the future.


Chinese suppliers are expanding the Apple’s supply chain​

The ongoing US-China trade war and rising labour costs in China have prompted Apple to move some production from China to Vietnam, Malaysia, and India. However, a large-scale shift is unlikely in the future as most countries do not offer China-like infrastructure, skilled labour, and governmental support. In addition, many components for Apple devices such as circuit boards, display panels, chargers, cables, and batteries are manufactured in China. Importing them to other countries before assembling the final devices would incur tariff expenses and labour training costs for Apple.

Apple supply chain is way over $100 billion globally per annum. Signing a decade or so deal for $275 billion involves that 42% total supply chain investment. Not some random Apple investing in China just because they want access. They've reduced their position in China. People seem to forget how much money Apple fills per annum in the supply chain side of the business.

Meanwhile from Apple: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/04/apple-commits-430-billion-in-us-investments-over-five-years/

Apple commits $430 billion in US investments over five years​

The accelerated commitment will fund a new North Carolina campus and job-creating investments in innovative fields like silicon engineering and 5G technology
 
If you’re surprised by this, you haven’t been paying attention. Cook has all but sold Apple to the Chinese Communist Party. Sadly, their is no going back for Apple now.
Bye-bye Halo effect.
 
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Wait, do you mean that no company "provides assistance" to US government causes? Because Apple does in the US (in addition to lobbying).

Obviously China is far from perfect, but so is the US. I think many folks in this thread are unable to separate their hatred for China from the wrongdoings of other countries, namely their own.
I have no hatred for China - not sure if that dig was directed to me.

Lobbying is public - no need for secrecy (and honestly I feel this corrupts the true nature of democracy at its core, value of information being pubic vs actions taking by those voted affects public citizen interest and voting at it's core).

Regarding helping out another country of which you're not a citizen for via business for their 'government causes' which has yet to be properly defined or clarified causes concern of potential bribes - which goes against most businesses practices or other potential nefarious moves. THAT is what i have concern over - couldn't care less if it's with China, Turkey or timbuktu (a city not a country btw).
 
On one hand I want Apple to continue its push as a global manufacturer, but on the other, it just feels so dirty when they work with the more evil regimes (we're all bad, some are just worse than others lol). I guess they have to spread the influence (cash) around if they want to continue growing.
 
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