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Governments interfere with businesses all the time. One example is the FTC is suing to stop the Nvidia/Arm merger.
I wouldn't say all the time. The instance of the FTC in Nvidia/ARM is the exception not the rule.
 
The phrase "virtue signaling" and the word "woke." Both so adorable and haughty.

"Disingenuous in their views"
"preach all but practice nothing"
"welcoming of all walks of life so long as you don't dissent on any single talking point ever"

That work better?
 
At first I felt a little angry toward China’s demands of Apple when reading this article. Then I sat back and reconsidered how I felt. Now I feel jealous and envious that a country’s government would seek to improve the well being of its industries and workers.

If anything, it makes me a little angry toward my own government and economy. Wouldn’t it be nice if the US government and its home grown businesses had the best interests of Americans at heart? But of course they don’t. All they’re concerned with is power and profit, which these days usually entails selling out Americans and their interests.

I can’t rightly fault China here.
 
Hard to call this a bribe. Yes, China made Apple exempt to some rules for now as Apple helps Chinese industry. This sort of thing is done all the time between governments and business. From oil pipelines to drug policy the US has bent its own rules for companies local and abroad to meet an end. This is nothing new.
Now if China just looked the other way and nothing went through the proper legal channels you’d be on to something.
so sponsoring manufacturing research is a bribe? Lots of bribes paid in the US. Gorilla Glass wouldn't be Gorilla Glass without Apple's bribes them,. Oh yah, he nailed it
 
so sponsoring manufacturing research is a bribe? Lots of bribes paid in the US. Gorilla Glass wouldn't be Gorilla Glass without Apple's bribes them,. Oh yah, he nailed it

Let's change the headline.

Conservative leaning Samsung executive 'secretly' signed $275 billion deal with China.

Cue the outrage now!
 
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so supposedly signed a deal 5+ years ago, drove the valuation to 2.5B$+ - and he's in trouble now?
Get real, capitalism at its best ... China became the "enemy" like 2 maybe maybe 3 years ago ...
 
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TRADER... SELL HIS SOUL TO THE DEVIL FOR MILLIONS..............

Now I can't stand this guy even more. May even HATE him.

No wander he is so devoted to keeping all APPLE manufacturing in China.

Wait until they go to Nuclear War with us in 2025.

Then what are you gonna do APPLE? All your manufacturing is in China.

You Bet the BIG Golden Egg on China and LOST!
 
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That's all well and good but it seems criticizing china is often just virtue signaling as well. People posting here from their slave labor phones and laptops created with metals destructively mined from indigenous lands and shipped across the world in gas guzzling cargo ships. But yeah, we can pretend to care about china
Criticizing China is definitely not virtue signaling. Not to anyone who knows the war they’re waging against the US and its allies. Make no mistake, they are the biggest threat to the US and anyone who thinks the good life here in America can go on forever is badly mistaken.

Judging by their hypersonic weapons and latest gen of aircraft carriers, they’re on the verge of achieving military superiority (if they haven’t already) and it looks like they will overtake our economy within a couple of decades. Oh, and China is literally influencing the next generation of Americans with the most popular and fastest growing social media platform, Tik Tok, which is promoting damaging ideology to children.
 
It is so good to read the level of scholarly analysis exemplified by some on this thread. Years back we were isolationist and always worrying about getting nuked and where the fallout shelters were. Then along came the idea of economic integration and a later disgraced President was credited with opening up china and a new era go global trade was started lifting billions out of poverty. No one is saying that the current system is perfect, but getting along is way better than conflict. It is almost funny to hear people complain about China pursuing what is in their best interest, almost the same as the US does itself, but "China bad, US good". Seriously?
 
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Criticizing China is definitely not virtue signaling. Not to anyone who knows the war they’re waging against the US and its allies. Make no mistake, they are the biggest threat to the US and anyone who thinks the good life here in America can go on forever is badly mistaken.

Judging by their hypersonic weapons and latest gen of aircraft carriers, they’re on the verge of achieving military superiority (if they haven’t already) and it looks like they will overtake our economy within a couple of decades. Oh, and China is literally influencing the next generation of Americans with the most popular and fastest growing social media platform, Tik Tok, which is promoting damaging ideology to children.

And the US is the biggest threat to other countries too. Facebook is literally more popular than tiktok by a wide margin and is similarly damaging to not just children but entire political systems. US actually does have military superiority over the entire world as well.

Why is China the bad guy when the US isn't?
 
Comrade Timmy, as usual, not walking the walk and getting on his knees to his Chinese masters.

Human rights & privacy are core Apple values - except if you're Chinese or especially Uyghur.

What a despicable piece of ****
 
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Criticizing China is definitely not virtue signaling. Not to anyone who knows the war they’re waging against the US and its allies. Make no mistake, they are the biggest threat to the US and anyone who thinks the good life here in America can go on forever is badly mistaken.

Judging by their hypersonic weapons and latest gen of aircraft carriers, they’re on the verge of achieving military superiority (if they haven’t already) and it looks like they will overtake our economy within a couple of decades. Oh, and China is literally influencing the next generation of Americans with the most popular and fastest growing social media platform, Tik Tok, which is promoting damaging ideology to children.
And what is wrong with any of that? China - biggest population, shouldn't it have biggest economy, It did for thousands of years? Military superiority, maybe we should work to disband all militaries, the US spends way too much, and uses it's military to bully. Is there any doubt that other nations would seek to counter that?
 
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I wouldn't say all the time. The instance of the FTC in Nvidia/ARM is the exception not the rule.
All govts, national, state and local, create laws, taxes, incentives/disincentives, rules/regulations, stock markets, Fed Reserve, etc... that all manipulate businesses (capitalism). There is no country on this earth that has pure capitalism and nothing else and that is a good thing.
 
我們將忠實地、毫無疑問地為我們仁慈的領主服務。
 
And the US is the biggest threat to other countries too. Facebook is literally more popular than tiktok by a wide margin and is similarly damaging to not just children but entire political systems. US actually does have military superiority over the entire world as well.

Why is China the bad guy when the US isn't?
You can say what you want about America's system of govt but one thing that isn't so easy for America to do, is to take entire groups of people and put them into a remote camp until they pledge their allegiance from Allah, over to Xi.

America's made mistakes. Native American treatment, slavery, Japanese camps... but I don't read about those event happening still (well, reservations are still a thing but it's a deeper issue than CCP's "forced camps"). Because America has a system where the people change it. That cant happen in China. China CCP is "god" there.
 
You can say what you want about America's system of govt but one thing that isn't so easy for America to do, is to take entire groups of people and put them into a remote camp until they pledge their allegiance from Allah, over to Xi.

America's made mistakes. Native American treatment, slavery, Japanese camps... but I don't read about those event happening still. Because America has a system where the people change it. That cant happen in China. China CCP is "god" there.

How many black people are unjustly in prison in america? How many are shot in the streets by cops? How many civilians do americans kill overseas every year? How many immigrants are working the fields for unfair pay? How many homeless people are there compared to empty homes owned by banks? How many veterans kill themselves or go hungry every year? How many opioid deaths? How many covid deaths?
 
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Some people are so numb to everything, and blinded by the brand and their political loyalties, they say 'its just China no big deal' who screech from the mountaintops Russia has hacked their breakfast cereal and slept with their wife, 24/7 as their main identity.

These same folks who say 'its just 275 billion to our foreign adversary' also want someone like Lauren Boebert beheaded for alleged six thousand dollars misappropriated of campaign funds in the same breath.

but we are supposed to take their 'argument' of a motion to dismiss, and maintain apathy when things look outright terrible and inexcusable and to look the other way, seriously.
 
Cant we have one tech company that isn't beholden to communist China?
Good idea, until the outsourcing craze was all the vogue from certain circles. I thought it was a bad idea, without limits for human rights, environment, and quality of life issues (draining jobs away for invalid long-term economic assumptions), and yet I was labelled as "protectionist". Now some industries literally can't function without inputs from china, Vietnam, Thailand, Japan and Korea. Not saying that is a bad thing, but let us work to balance the field for environment, human rights, and economics. You have more influence if you are a partner not an adversary
 
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