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A high percentage of Diabetics are on Medicare or Medicaid...they would need to be paid by these plans...doubtful at best..it would be great for Type I diabetic children and I think a parent would pay for it. There is over 40,000,000 Diabetics in the US.
 
More likely type 1.
No, he is right. Undiagnosed type 1 kills relatively quickly ( usually before 25). People can have metabolic syndrome and diabetes for decades before being clinacally diagnosed. *disclaimer: I am a medical specialist working in the diabetes arena for many years.
 
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I'm type 2, for the last 25 years or so. I have to test about 5 times a day. Test strips are expensive, that's about $10 worth. I'm with an HMO and it doesn't cost me much, but retail they're a fortune. I don't like this continuous monitoring thing at all, it's a small needle that stays in your body, doesn't sound like much fun at all.
I want it on the watch. I read somewhere that they had this going but couldn't handle it if people had tattoos under where they wear the watch - don' know anything abut veracity of that...
There are huge numbers of diabetics and its growing. By 2050 its expected to be 50% of Americans...
Yes, the FDA is a pain. However, they are totally corrupt, and Apple should be able to pay whatever they want and get an expedited process.
 
I think it's a good idea for people to be more personally involved in their health but collecting data and being able to properly interpret it and know what to do with it is another thing. Once you get into anything that requires FDA approval the room for error is next to none. Whatever Apple does in this space I hope they go slow and do some trials before marketing it to a wider customer base. I'm also assuming different countries have different regulations around this so some of this stuff might be US only for a while and slowly roll out to other countries?
The FDA approves prescription medications that kill over 100,000 people a year. They're not exactly the de facto standard for things related to health. Obviously we will want a product like this that has been tested thoroughly, but the FDA, and the length of their approval process, are ridiculous.
 
This breakthrough will translate in hundreds of millions of Watches (and iPhones) sold.

I highly doubt it. First off, glucose monitors are not for everyone and it will not translate to millions of sales by watches and iphones. Period. This requires intense FDA scrutiny to be cleared and a hurdle. Apple loves to avoid certain government agencies to have certain clearances so 'hide' their product intentions. Unfortunately, they cannot 'hide' their data from California's DMV and traffic regulators regarding the Project Titan. They cannot 'hide' certain tech from the FDA and get around it.

It's just a company sitting on loads of cash and is accountable to United States federal law and statutes when conducting business, even international.

Why do you care about Apple selling millions? You're already loaded as a professional DJ in Italy. Yes, I'm aware you do it for real. I've seen you around on The Verge discussion boards.

Do you use DJ with a Touch Bar on your Macbook Pro?

If you love the company so much, come to America.
 
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As already mentioned, many people have type 2 diabetes without knowing it. It would be a transformative thing if people could be easily alerted by their Watch that they should consult their doctors because their blood glucose levels were remaining too high. It could literally extend millions of people's lives.

Of course that would be the non-invasive kind that really makes the difference, but even the more invasive kind is a step towards that goal. Also I think there are worse things for people to obsess over than data about their own health/bodies. But sure, everything in moderation and all that.

Well said.

I'd also like to add that western diets, especially those of my American brethren are unhealthy and is one of the major causes of diabetes.

A glucose monitor could inform people of what foods are raising their sugar blood levels to dangerous amounts, many I bet will be obvious like soda beverages. But if a device on your wrist is showing you the damage you are doing to your body then that may be enough of an alert to help some people make changes to their diets.

As mentioned in the article, Cook is already doing this.

Time to short the candy and soda companies in the stock exchange. (joke)
 
The FDA approves prescription medications that kill over 100,000 people a year. They're not exactly the de facto standard for things related to health. Obviously we will want a product like this that has been tested thoroughly, but the FDA, and the length of their approval process, are ridiculous.
Still I don't trust the average Joe that owns an Apple Watch or an iPhone to know how to read or what to do with some of this data. Data is only as good as how it is interpreted and used.
 
Still I don't trust the average Joe that owns an Apple Watch or an iPhone to know how to read or what to do with some of this data. Data is only as good as how it is interpreted and used.
Not saying it shouldn't be approved, just that the FDA approves terrible things.
 
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I'm not sure I want to know how much my glucose and insulin fluctuates during the day. It might involve me giving up two of my favorite things. Beer and coffee.

M-F Coffee in the AM, beer in the PM.
S-S The other way around.
Wowzers. I'm informing your life insurance company ;)
 
It's definitely exciting stuff. But I will never ever wear a square shaped watch. Never liked it before smart watches, and will never like it after. Give us something along the lines of the Moto 360 without the flat tire and you can take my money then. Thought Apple was all about elegance in design... But they missed the mark on this one. Cue all the haters who say Apple doesn't need my one sale....
I'm not going to hate on you (sorry, Internet!), but offer a different perspective.

If you are diabetic, especially T1D, balancing the need to have a square watch on your wrist with BG readings integrated into it versus having to inject a Dexcom every week and calibrate it twice a day seems like an easy decision.

If you're not a T1D, or just want to wait, that makes sense. There's always having the CGM on your belt/pocket/purse:
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More likely type 1.
80% of T1D are undiagnosed? :eek:
 
Medical and fitness uses are still the best use cases for the Apple Watch. It would be wonderful if one day it could also reliably detect heart problems before a heart attack.

Agree. I think this is the ONLY use of a smart device with such a small screen. I hope the sensors/SW can also be used via iPhone for those of us who don't want yet another iDevice.
 
I'm type 2, for the last 25 years or so. I have to test about 5 times a day. Test strips are expensive, that's about $10 worth. I'm with an HMO and it doesn't cost me much, but retail they're a fortune. I don't like this continuous monitoring thing at all, it's a small needle that stays in your body, doesn't sound like much fun at all.
I want it on the watch. I read somewhere that they had this going but couldn't handle it if people had tattoos under where they wear the watch - don' know anything abut veracity of that...
There are huge numbers of diabetics and its growing. By 2050 its expected to be 50% of Americans...
Yes, the FDA is a pain. However, they are totally corrupt, and Apple should be able to pay whatever they want and get an expedited process.
On the Dexcom, for me (T1D) I don't really feel it, like the infusion sets from my pump. Dexcom has the best method of injection for me, as I don't really like the "load and shoot" types of injectors. I do agree with you that non-invasive is the way to go, and it will help those that are trying to lose weight as well, if you subscribe to the "South Beach/Atkins Diet" method of keeping your blood sugars down, so you don't get overly hungry when the insulin kicks in (non-diabetics),
 
Still I don't trust the average Joe that owns an Apple Watch or an iPhone to know how to read or what to do with some of this data. Data is only as good as how it is interpreted and used.

This calculation is too simple. Fluctuation is very predictable. It's controlled primarily by diet and exercise. If you are over 100 or 120, then you have too much sugar in your blood. If you wake up and its 225, then you know you have to add some insulin (if you are at the stage where you use that stuff). Every person with type 2 diabetes reacts differently and they all self-titrate their dose. If you are plunging down below 90, most diabetics will be quite uncomfortable. As your sugar goes down, your body goes into a type of panic. It takes a ton of will power to not stuff one's face with every kind of sugary thing, ice cream and cookies, a bowl of cereal, essentially everything you've been missing, and the next thing you know you are over 300 and you want to go to sleep. It's not nice. It would be very nice to have a bit of an early warning system.

People are already testing by sticking their finger with a needle multiple times a day and no one likes it. It would be great to have a device that you could glance at to see how you are doing.

I'm not suggesting that people who don't have diabetes should self-diagnose. That's always problematic. However, those who have experienced this illness, who are already managing their condition, could benefit greatly with this built into a watch.
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On the Dexcom, for me (T1D) I don't really feel it, like the infusion sets from my pump. Dexcom has the best method of injection for me, as I don't really like the "load and shoot" types of injectors.

Type 1 and Type 2 are very different, as I am sure you know. My neighbor has Type 1 and he's always showing me his latest pump, or sensor, etc. Some of those needles are quite large... and he's alway got some sort of radio taped to his body. It works quite well for him but it doesn't look like it would be comfortable while running or biking. if I could get the same features in a watch (I don't care about the shape) I'd really be excited... Just at this very moment I am feeling strange, I know something is off with my sugar. I can usually tell but at the moment I don't know whether I am high or low. Can I get that new non-existent watch now, please...

One more note, for those of you that don't have an Apple Watch... for whatever reason. I have the Series 2, and I think they did an amazing job with the interface. There are multiple ways to get to the place you want, the information is almost always large enough to read. To my surprise, the device is really quite usable.
 
Type 1 and Type 2 are very different, as I am sure you know. My neighbor has Type 1 and he's always showing me his latest pump, or sensor, etc. Some of those needles are quite large... and he's alway got some sort of radio taped to his body. It works quite well for him but it doesn't look like it would be comfortable while running or biking. if I could get the same features in a watch (I don't care about the shape) I'd really be excited... Just at this very moment I am feeling strange, I know something is off with my sugar. I can usually tell but at the moment I don't know whether I am high or low. Can I get that new non-existent watch now, please...

One more note, for those of you that don't have an Apple Watch... for whatever reason. I have the Series 2, and I think they did an amazing job with the interface. There are multiple ways to get to the place you want, the information is almost always large enough to read. To my surprise, the device is really quite usable.
As far as the comfort when running/biking, the same applies. I ride about 50mi/week, and the biggest concern I have is when the tape starts pulling away. I also wear loose clothes, so they don't grab on to the infusion sets or the CGM. I do know of a manager where I work where she puts them in her arm. I think I'll try that with my next one, and see how it goes, and give my belly a break.

One other nice thing is when I fly (yes, I'm working on getting my pilot's license), I can easily check my blood sugar by looking at my watch. I still have to check every hour with the finger stick, but having a quick check is definitely worth it.
 
this seems really cool if you have some medical condition where you need to monitor your glucose level.

Little worried though that otherwise healthy people will start becoming obsessive over stuff like this when it's not really necessary to be monitoring your glucose at all times.

Sugar intake is a serious problem in many countries, particularly the US. It's killing people. If you're a healthy person, this will matter to you. If you're an unhealthy person, this *should* matter to you.
 
Always good to read the fine print:

* A minimum of 2 fingersticks a day is required for calibration.The Dexcom G5 Mobile Continuous Glucose Monitoring System may require more.



1 BRIEF SAFETY STATEMENT

The Dexcom G5 Mobile Continuous Glucose Monitoring (CGM) System ("G5") is a glucose monitoring system indicated for the management of diabetes in persons age 2 years and older. The G5 is designed to replace fingerstick blood glucose testing for diabetes treatment decisions. The G5 also aids in the detection of episodes of hyperglycemia and hypoglycemia. The G5 is intended for single patient use and requires a prescription. CONTRAINDICATIONS Do not rely on the G5 CGM data if you have recently taken acetaminophen. Remove the G5 (sensor, transmitter, and receiver) before Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI), Computed Tomography (CT) scan, or high-frequency electrical heat (diathermy) treatment. The G5 is MR Unsafe. Do not bring any portion of the G5 into the MRI environment. WARNING CGM-based diabetes treatment decisions are only approved with the G5, not previous generations of Dexcom CGM systems. Calibrate at least once every 12 hours using a fingerstick. If your G5 does not display a sensor glucose reading and an arrow, or if you are getting inaccurate or inconsistent readings, take a fingerstick. If your glucose readings and alerts do not match your symptoms or expectations, take a fingerstick to confirm. Failure to do so may lead to hyperglycemia or hypoglycemia. The G5 is not approved for use in pregnant women, persons on dialysis or critically ill persons. If a sensor breaks and no portion of it is visible above the skin, do not attempt to remove it. Seek professional medical help if you have infection or inflammation on or near the sensor insertion point. Report broken sensors to Dexcom Technical Support. Sensor placement is not approved for sites other than under the skin of the belly (ages 2 years and older) or upper buttocks (ages 2-17 years).
 
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This article reads similarly to a press release.
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Always good to read the fine print:

* A minimum of 2 fingersticks a day is required for calibration.The Dexcom G5 Mobile Continuous Glucose Monitoring System may require more.
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Interesting....
 
More likely type 1.
DEFINITELY NOT type 1. If you have type 1 diabetes you don't produce any insulin. You know VERY quickly that something is wrong. You could go for years with type 2 and not know it.

The two diseases are only similar in that they both have something to do with insulin. Type 1 diabetes is an auto-immune disease that people are born with a genetic pre-disposition for. Type 1s' pancreases eventually stop producing insulin entirely. Type 2 is something that you can develop as you get older or get overweight and you are no longer able to use the insulin you produce. Very different diseases.
[doublepost=1495159503][/doublepost]I have heard good things about the dexcom CGM. It's supposed to be very accurate. I use a medtronic CGM - mostly because it's the only one that works with the Medtronic insulin pump. While the Medtronic insulin pump is probably the best pump out there, the Dexcom CGM is head and shoulders above the Medtronic CGM. The Medtronic CGM is garbage.
 
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