Apple CEO Tim Cook Spotted Testing Apple Watch-Connected Glucose Monitor

[wagawagawoowoo]

Then how do they know that?!

see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24300018
Its not 80% and it varies massively from area to area and country to country - depends on the type of health care system.

In my practice - i doubt its even as high as 10% of the 25K pts registered at my clinic - 85% come in at least once a year and most of them are screened. We have a large pre-diabetes register - i.e. people who aren't yet diabetic - these would once have been the undiagnosed because technically you can become diabetic and not have symptoms.

 

[Flytrap21]

Medical and fitness uses are still the best use cases for the Apple Watch. It would be wonderful if one day it could also reliably detect heart problems before a heart attack.

It already can...

"An Apple Watch app can detect atrial fibrillation with 97 percent accuracy, according to results presented at the Heart Rhythm Society last week. This is promising because people with the heart condition often have no symptoms, making screening and diagnosis difficult." Source: https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/15/...art-health-artificial-intelligence-monitoring​

 

[UL2RA]

see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24300018
Its not 80% and it varies massively from area to area and country to country - depends on the type of health care system.

In my practice - i doubt its even as high as 10% of the 25K pts registered at my clinic - 85% come in at least once a year and most of them are screened. We have a large pre-diabetes register - i.e. people who aren't yet diabetic - these would once have been the undiagnosed because technically you can become diabetic and not have symptoms.

A pre-diabetes register makes that percentage make a lot more sense.

 

[Flytrap21]

They may be trying to avoid FDA on the watch, but any glucose monitoring 'device', even if built within a strap, will need some serious regulatory approvals, trials and evidence before it could be used for medical purposes.

And I hope they're doing that, because this is really exciting.

I think that is the point of moving the medical sensors away from the watch to a strap or band... Apple's business model builds ecosystems around their products... this creates stickiness and lock-in. Apple wants to create the personal health care platform (think HealthKit, CareKit and ResearchKit APIs) that biomedical technology companies will be able to plug their new and existing FDA approved products into.

 

[honglong1976]

Medical and fitness uses are still the best use cases for the Apple Watch. It would be wonderful if one day it could also reliably detect heart problems before a heart attack.

It would need to take more readings (currently between 2-10mins). This is where Fitbit has the edge taking a reading every 5 seconds and would most likely detect something like a heart attack accurately. Whereas the Apple watch might not take a reading until you have cardiac arrested.

The furture looks great though for wearables!

 

[ThomasJefferson]

So, will we be able to monitor this on our new Mac mini?

 

[diipii]

This is all typical ad-man's strategy of "create the fear-supply the solution." And typical of the gullibility of contemporary societies with nothing worse to worry about. Watches are for telling the time, phones are for phone calls, computers, (remember Apple ?) are for work. Apple makes me feel lied to, manipulated and dissed.

 

[JosephAW]

They will always have a disclaimer that the watch is not a medical device. So instead of fake news it's fake health.

 

[Keirasplace]

It would need to take more readings (currently between 2-10mins). This is where Fitbit has the edge taking a reading every 5 seconds and would most likely detect something like a heart attack accurately. Whereas the Apple watch might not take a reading until you have cardiac arrested.

The furture looks great though for wearables!

Apple's is more accurate, so there is that... And it can increase sampling on demand (usually during exercise, but it could undoubtably do it in response to "weird" readings.

 

[looking4anotebo]

The interesting thing is the Sir Grey appears to be trying to challenge the feeling that Diabetes is an inevitable disease that the patient has no say in - viz Rheumatoid arthritis - where you don't have a choice - you get it or you don't - there have even been reports it might be caused by a virus.

RA is an autoimmune disease where people have genetic predisposition or are genetically susceptible to the disease but it's the environment of the genes and epigenetics that decide whether or not a person develops the disease.

 

[mapatton82]

If this works reliably enough for diabetics, purchasing an Apple Watch is a hell of a lot cheaper than the continuous purchase of testing supplies. Being a diabetic myself, I am eagerly waiting for this to be released!!

 

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

that much was clear regardless. This will require FDA approval which is a lengthy process. Apple won't want to tie Apple Watch release schedule to that. They'll offload this functionality to a watch band. whenever it's ready and approved they'll release it and it will most likely work even with the current generation Watch.

I'm sure it will work with the newest Apple Watch at the time but I don't see it working with the older watches. Companies are all about getting people to upgrade their hardware. Allowing old devices to use new tech doesn't get people to upgrade.

Just as we see with iOS, only the newest devices will support all the newest features. I'm sure any glucose monitor will only work for those that have the latest and greatest, or upgrade to it.

 

[Kid Red]

Apple CEO Tim Cook has allegedly been spotted testing a prototype glucose monitor that's connected to his Apple Watch, reports CNBC.

An iPhone-connected Dexcom continuous glucose monitoring system​

Tim is looking good.

 

[carrrrrlos]

I call BS on that photo, looks nothing like Tim.

 

[Winni]

Medical and fitness uses are still the best use cases for the Apple Watch. It would be wonderful if one day it could also reliably detect heart problems before a heart attack.

I hate to break it to you, but most human cardiologists cannot even correctly do this, so I doubt an electronic gadget like the Apple Watch will be able to do a job even experienced human physicians fail at. You would be surprised to learn how many doctors fail at finding evidence for a heart attack in an electrocardiogram, even though the patient has recently had a heart attack -- the physicians simply lack the experience or competence to accurately read and interpret the information.

Also, I wouldn't base any medical decision on a gadget that does not qualify as an approved medical instrument. It's about as smart as basing life changing decisions on a horoscope that you found in a boulevard magazine.

 

[FrenchRoasted]

Stop eating crap. Is this glucose obsesion an american thing?

Mostly yes. The SAD (Standard American Diet) is very unhealthy, but we're slowly waking up to the fact that we've been lied to. Remember the food pyramid? High carbohydrate, high grain diets are deadly.

 

[lennyeiger]

This discussion has devolved to levels of ignorance that make those who actually know something back off. If you pick up a copy of Prevention or Today's Health, you will see ads where doctors (notably not researchers and physiologists) will claim just about anything. Stop by a chiropractor's office and pick up a magazine (nothing against chiropractors). You can cure baldness, erectile dysfunction, diabetes, skin ailments, prostate issues and cancer, all with methods that are unproven, Some that are just plain ridiculous. Just because someone is a doctor it doesn't make him or her an expert. Ask a physiologist about doctors and they will just shake their head.
I am now doing a little running because I've been walking 3 miles a day, 6-7 days a week for 4 years with no effect, certainly not in getting rid of diabetes. It's true that a lack of exercise and poor diet are factors. There is a lot of research that shows its passed down by genetics. However, there are also plenty of other factors. High fructose corn syrup is really bad for you, and it has mercury in it. It could be the mercury. Bread in the US is made with flour conditioners that are essentially little plastic beads, similar to the kind of plastic in yoga mats. Could be eating plastic. I also just read yesterday that a lot of sea salt has plastic in it. It could be the overabundance of carbs in the diet. Maybe its the rancid oil that is used in cooking French fries or pizza. Sugar replacements like aspartame and xylitol, and all the others are also indicated. Stress is a huge factor. There are a lot of things that could be the case that have nothing to do with exercise and weight at all. I know plenty of skinny diabetics.
If you want to have a discussion about the causes of diabetes type 2 you have to include some physiologists, and some people who actually are involved in this research. If the solution were was easy as just go for a walk every morning then they would have pointed that out already. Lay people don't have a chance here, it requires a lot of study.
All I can say is that you don't want this disease. It's a pain. If you eat Kraft macaroni and cheese, stop. If you drink soda, diet or not, just stop. Learn to enjoy exercise, being outside and a little less stressed. Essentially, take 90% of the carbs out of your diet and learn to like all kinds of vegetables and proteins. Enjoy a slice of pizza once a year. If you have any tendency towards this do the best you can to avoid it.

 

[dwaltwhit]

Medical and fitness uses are still the best use cases for the Apple Watch. It would be wonderful if one day it could also reliably detect heart problems before a heart attack.

I don't think that that day is too far off.

 

[IJ Reilly]

and who says this is an apple exclusive? Or did the article just fail to mention this.?.

This is an important point. Nowhere in the article was it claimed that the glucose monitor seen being tested by Cook was developed by Apple. Also never said was that it didn't depend on a subdural probe. Since third-party glucose monitors using subdural probes with connectivity to phones are already available, and we already know Apple's interest in medical device connectivity, this story doesn't appear to contain any actual news.

 

[Someyoungguy]

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Damn. Tim lookin' good these days.

My thoughts exactly; also, need to see more pictures of "Tim" before I can come to grips with my feelings about this.

 

[ForkHandles]

Society is getting increasingly difficult for consumers precisely because it has become so cheap and easy. In the UK bad food is well packaged and cheap, conversely good food is poorly packaged and not cheap. I understand that food is even cheaper in the US.

I only eat fresh, I can afford to only eat fresh! What constantly amazes me is that raw ingredients for a meal cost twice as much as a ready meal equivalent ,which are loaded with salt and sugar and will kill you.

I don't think a society buying into health gadgets is a good/healthy sign, but credit where credit is due perhaps the main benefit of this gadget is raising awareness that food companies are killing us.

 

[kdarling]

This is an important point. Nowhere in the article was it claimed that the glucose monitor seen being tested by Cook was developed by Apple. Also never said was that it didn't depend on a subdural probe. Since third-party glucose monitors using subdural probes with connectivity to phones are already available, and we already know Apple's interest in medical device connectivity, this story doesn't appear to contain any actual news.

Good point. Yep, the original CNBC article stated:

He didn't say if it was a medical device from a company like Medtronic or Dexcom, or an Apple prototype.

All that the article quoted Cook as saying about it was:

"I've been wearing a continuous glucose monitor for a few weeks," he said. "I just took it off before coming on this trip."

He didn't say Apple monitor. Or prototype.

In fact, if anyone thinks about this for more than two seconds, what are the odds that Cook would say ANYTHING about an Apple prototype device until / unless one existed and was ready for sale??

 

[IJ Reilly]

In fact, if anyone thinks about this for more than two seconds, what are the odds that Cook would say ANYTHING about an Apple prototype device until / unless one existed and was ready for sale??

Exactly. The next step in this exercise is claiming Apple is "hyping" a product they haven't even said they are making, and based on the evidence, probably aren't making.

 

[dcopelandia]

Apple CEO Tim Cook has allegedly been spotted testing a prototype glucose monitor that's connected to his Apple Watch, reports CNBC. Cook, who is said to be aiming to understand how his blood sugar is affected by food and exercise, has been seen wearing the device around the Apple Campus.

Cook also mentioned the glucose monitor in a February meeting with students at the University of Glasgow. It's not clear if the device he spoke of in Glasgow is the same one he's been wearing around the Apple campus.Current continuous glucose monitoring systems require a small sensor that's worn under the skin to monitor glucose levels. Advanced systems from Dexcom include a transmitter, which can display glucose information directly on an iPhone or Apple Watch.

An iPhone-connected Dexcom continuous glucose monitoring system​

Rumors have suggested glucose monitoring is the next major health issue Apple is aiming to tackle. The company is said to have a team of biomedical engineers working on developing sensors for non-invasively monitoring blood sugar levels. Apple is allegedly working on a continuous monitoring solution that would not require an under-skin sensor.

Apple's glucose testing is reportedly far enough along that the company has started conducting feasibility trials at clinical sites in the San Francisco Bay Area, and consultants have been hired to sort out regulatory issues.

According to a recent rumor from BGR, Apple could be planning to add a non-invasive glucose monitoring sensor to a future version of the Apple Watch, perhaps through the addition of a smart band that would add functionality to the Apple Watch without requiring the sensor to be built into the watch.

Cook has said in the past that Apple does not want to put the Apple Watch through the FDA approval process, something that would need to happen for Apple to introduce a glucose monitor, so a modular add-on smart band could be an ideal solution for adding more advanced health tracking features without subjecting the Apple Watch itself to FDA oversight.

Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook Spotted Testing Apple Watch-Connected Glucose Monitor

[doublepost=1495217121][/doublepost]WOW Tim Cook looks really good in the picture

 

[kyleh22]

Pics or it didn't happen.