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More of these pale in comparisons to Cook vs Jobs comments. We get it, Cook isn't What Jobs was or is today, Vice Versa. He is Tim Cook and has his own way of addressing and delivering. But using leverage against Cook for politics reference an MIT speech is completely irrelevant and a way to jab at him, which appears you're disgruntled for some reason or another.

Aside from your dislikes, it's a privilege to be in a position to address these students and re-direct the focus to something more positive, like the future of these students and their contributions.

And yes, Steve had a great commencement speech. But wasn't it you a Month or so ago that quoted "Leave it be with the Steve Jobs comments/comparisons" on a main page article (Unknown which one). Also, I believe you stated "Jobs is dead, time to move on." If I recall correctly, it was you on a thread in which I cannot recall on the first page of comments.

In any case, perhaps leaving Jobs out of the equation for once is appropriate and respectful his name doesn't have to be mentioned every time a Cook article surfaces or is compared too.
Thank you for following me and noticing my comments. Sometimes I think I am just spitting in the wind. To your point, yes I am a bit disgruntled with Tim over the election and his focus on his personal political agenda instead of focusing on Apple - I have commented on this in the past. I have also commented in the past about my concern on the emphasis on China and how that could quickly bite him in the ass due to the political system there. You are correct that I could have left out the Steve reference. I really don't care about the comparison because we can't bring Steve back, but I really wish that Tim would be singularly focused on Apple the way Steve was. no other comparison is fair.
 
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Subjects:
- Make the world slimmer by eliminating products from the catalogue
- Diversity: the answer to Functionality
- How to avoid the Spaceship to rise - while you're so elevated from the rest of the world
- Snow negative feedback, product recalls and criticism under by a continuing flow of PR irrelevances
 
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Well, they invited Tim Cook, not you.
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I believe MIT students have higher level of learning mindsets.
what are you implying here? that they are too smart to wonder about the release of a product? Consumers who have inquiries on the products they desire are not capable of higher learning "mindsets"? lol just getting clarification here.
 
Yes... It seems as it is now the norm. Other words I am so tired of hearing are: leadership, luxury, excellence...

For this you can thank the American education system. Instead of understanding what leadership, luxury, excellence, etc. are, todays students and young workers have been programmed to be told "this is luxury", or "this is the best product" and they believe it because they don't have the skills to see for themselves and evaluate critically for themselves. The programming makes sure that being seen as popular and doing what popular people do is valued higher than being an individual. So it happens because it works. It happens because people are programed to believe and do what they are told without any critical thought.

Political correctness attempts to teach everyone that will listen that we should be a country without criticism, without open and honest discussions, without tolerance for different views and people. That if you are criticized you have been harmed. This approach is simply a way to divide people so they can be easily ruled. Evaluation of critical comments is the only way to move forward personally and in business. If someone is always telling you "your the best", why would you try to get any better? The best thing that can happen both professionally and personally is to have someone that tells you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear. We are losing the ability to do this.
 
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The facts would beg to differ with you.

https://www.aboveavalon.com/notes/2016/12/6/milking-the-iphone


No mean feat if you ask me.

and how many of those products were not on the roadmap when Jobs passed away? There is more spin in that piece than fricking merry go round.

Apple successfully made the difficult jump from a paid music download model to streaming and is approaching 20M paying Apple Music subscribers.

Define "successfully". Apple Music was an absolute mess for a while after release. I would actually argue that when you are Apple and iTunes is synonymous with digital music the streaming service shouldn't actually have been so difficult.

Apple continues to push forward with Apple TV. The company is approaching 10M units sold since the device was updated in 2015.

Continues to push forward? Really? Timmy and his band of merry men couldn't get the deals done on the streaming service. Leading to the embarrassing release of that pointless TV app at the event in October, clearly a remnant of the failed TV service.

Its an absolute misrepresentation to suggest the Apple Watch is sold as an iPhone accessory aswell.

Cook has done well in as much as he hasn't burnt the farm down and the iteration on existing products release under Jobs have done well (so far, the iPad continues to tank though, notice that that wasn't mentioned in that article!) but where are they actually going?

TV has been a failure, seems like the Car is going the same way, the Watch is headed one way and it isn't up. Its ok though Tim is going to turn Apple into Blockbuster :rolleyes:
 
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Completely off topic, but anyway:)

Is it just me or it is becoming the norm for Americans to express even the most common things using over the top superlatives? As a European, or even worse, Danish, i find it hard to believe that everything magical, epic, extraordinary, courageous, genius, brilliant and so on. Which phrases are left when you have to describe something that really deserves these terms?

Some time in the 90s, American business adopted the idea of "power words" as a marketing and promotional means. You are encouraged to use Power Words to upsell yourself. upsell your product, upsell everything.

Because of the sudden prevelance of these Power words and terms in mainstream media, they have become the norm and the standard for descriptive language in western culture (More like Canada + USA culture). Everything now is hyperbolicaly described using the biggest, most power fulled, But often divisive, and meaningless language.

Its gotten to the point that now even during resume building, we're being told to drop the power words and get back to proper descriptive language, But it's still common behaviour, Especially in Marketing to do so.

Thats why it's amusing when Cook, Ive, Schiller, and even Craig (I can't spell his last name) speak. you can literally pick the statements apart based on the power language they use. It's often meaningless and fun to pick apart cause it's more often than not, just being used as marketing purposes and not for real world descriptor

Just do a quick google search on "Power Words" and you'll see what i'm talking about and how marketing has sold the culture that these words are the only type that are important

Fun Game: Find quotes by Apple's executive's in public, and pick apart their meanings once you remove the power words. Ive is notorious for saying a lot of words, but actually meaning nothing
 
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Some time in the 90s, American business adopted the idea of "power words" as a marketing and promotional means. You are encouraged to use Power Words to upsell yourself. upsell your product, upsell everything.
Because of the sudden prevelance of these Power words and terms in mainstream media, they have become the norm and the standard for descriptive language in western culture (More like Canada + USA culture). Everything now is hyperbolicaly described using the biggest, most power fulled, But often divisive, and meaningless language.
Its gotten to the point that now even during resume building, we're being told to drop the power words and get back to proper descriptive language, But it's still common behaviour, Especially in Marketing to do so.
Thats why it's amusing when Cook, Ive, Schiller, and even Craig (I can't spell his last name) speak. you can literally pick the statements apart based on the power language they use. It's often meaningless and fun to pick apart cause it's more often than not, just being used as marketing purposes and not for real world descriptor
Agree. In Europe we use the word Hyperboles.
Apple Board members using them ever so often is one thing, but the gap between their language, subjects and performance has widened so much that their credibility is completely gone.
They are run by their PR-agenda. The goodnews show has become over-comprehensive, everything is planned to detach the public from Apple's real world problems.
THAT drives their agenda => NOT solving issues, implementing strategy.
Customers, in this field, have become unwieldy epiphenomena. Luckily, the larger part remains happy with with Watchbands and Emojies.

One example is Phil Schiller going stellar over something as elementary and insignificant as the TouchBar.
Everyone anxiously observing Apple on OSX/iOS convergeance understands how defensive that "invention" is: They do not dare to give up either MacBook or iPad lines and therefore come up with the puppy of the puppiest touchscreens imaginable. Whereas Jobs would have invented a converged device - so brilliant that it would have created a completely new market, bigger than the two combined.
Now are we customers supposed to be so stupid to follow this through ? Guess not.
But the PR machine starts to flow so much TouchBar buzz that it becomes difficult to avoid...
 
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I dunno. I think Tim Cook will be a pretty inspirational speaker. He comes from the Deep South, heads up the most well known firm in the world which is also incredibly progressive in its views and is the first openly gay CEO of a Fortune 500 company.

All the gripes about Apple's product line and whatnot aside, he's a pretty fascinating guy and I reckon will knock this out of the park.
SJ's speech was epic, for sure. And I agree that, as a person, TC is wonderful.

My gripes with Apple aside, I can see why MIT would want TC to speak.
 
Agree. In Europe we use the word Hyperboles.
Apple Board members using them ever so often is one thing, but the gap between their language, subjects and performance has widened so much that their credibility is completely gone.
They are run by their PR-agenda. The good-news show has become over-comprehensive, everything is planned to detach the public from Apple's real world problems.
THAT drives their agenda => NOT solving issues, implementing strategy.
Customers, in this field, have become unwieldy epiphenomena.

Yes, I very much feel like Tim Cook's Apple is more being led by the Marketing and Sales side of the business than the technological side.

Don't get me wrong. Apple has always had an extremely aggressive Marketing department and has always aggresively pushed and over-emphasized their products through hyperbole. Under Steve Jobs, Apple was actually considered quite a abusive company with how it handled it's marketting and it's narrative to media (there are lots of long articles outlining how Apple threatened, or even pulled back review samples to reviewers who negatively reviewed them).

But I always felt like despite the marketing hooplah, Apple was actually first focused on making premium products to their very technological best. There was a pride to the tech they made. And listening to Jobs, despite his own histories, He was very much a product person. The product had to sell by being the best. The money would come by giving the customer what they wanted and Job's believed he knew what the customer wanted (sometimes he was wrong, but he honestly genuinely believed he was making the products people would want to use)

Right now, I get the "Balmer" feeling from Tim Cook. He's a great business person. I'd absolutely love him as my own supply chain manager, or executive on the board. But as the steering person in the tech world to keep the company ahead? I don't see it. He's a business person first. He caters to the business side. when he talks, and especially about Apple's success, he very much sounds like he believes Apple and him are deserving of the monetary praise FIRST, and the products they sell come second. You should buy Apple products BECAUSE they're apple and Apple is profitable.

Just like Ballmer, He's able to take a company with an extreme amount of momentum, and a very strong foothold in the industry, and run it well enough. And just like Ballmer, He isn't the visionary who can truly push the company to new boundaries. And just like Ballmer, The company they're leading is doing well while they're the leader, and even showing some growth in some areas. But overeall, was stagnant and even lost in areas that used to make their respective companies what they were.

Cook is a great interim CEO that can keep the company going strong. But until they find another products guy to lead the company, We're in for more of this sort of "average" product lifecycles
 
They are run by their PR-agenda. The goodnews show has become over-comprehensive, everything is planned to detach the public from Apple's real world problems.

Yes, the message from Apple execs re. the apparently trouble-plagued 2016 MB Pro is that "it's a fantastic machine."
 
Thank you for following me and noticing my comments. Sometimes I think I am just spitting in the wind. To your point, yes I am a bit disgruntled with Tim over the election and his focus on his personal political agenda instead of focusing on Apple - I have commented on this in the past. I have also commented in the past about my concern on the emphasis on China and how that could quickly bite him in the ass due to the political system there. You are correct that I could have left out the Steve reference. I really don't care about the comparison because we can't bring Steve back, but I really wish that Tim would be singularly focused on Apple the way Steve was. no other comparison is fair.

I'm not sure if you're being flippant or not, but I'm not Following you on a publicly open website. I recall your specific comments on a main page article to cease the Jobs comments. Nor I am trying to be inconsiderate by my previous post. It was merely an observation.
 
I dunno. I think Tim Cook will be a pretty inspirational speaker. He comes from the Deep South, heads up the most well known firm in the world which is also incredibly progressive in its views and is the first openly gay CEO of a Fortune 500 company.

All the gripes about Apple's product line and whatnot aside, he's a pretty fascinating guy and I reckon will knock this out of the park.

"first openly gay CEO of a Fortune 500 company" That is all he got really. My view he is not doing too great at Apple. Innovation is starting to going down. Products released full of bugs or issues. Apple used to be more innovate than M$, but not anymore.
 
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[QUOTE = "Swazaloo, post: 24040325, jäsen: 869786"] Ja sen paremmin ole 5400 RPM kiintolevy oletuksena. En edes halua nähdä vaihtoehto mekaanisen kiintolevyt enää. Siirrytään alkaa 1960 Apple! [/ QUOTE]
And it better not have a 5400 RPM hard drive as default. I don't even want to see an option for mechanical hard drives anymore. Let's move on from the 1960's Apple!
I totally agree: Hard disks are already history. Especially, when Apple used to glue each technical mooring. Not least because the moving parts inside the Apple products should be avoided. There is no ecologically, and maintenance of a good thing for anyone that Apple's lavish use of glue.
 
[QUOTE = "Swazaloo, post: 24040325, jäsen: 869786"] Ja sen paremmin ole 5400 RPM kiintolevy oletuksena. En edes halua nähdä vaihtoehto mekaanisen kiintolevyt enää. Siirrytään alkaa 1960 Apple! [/ QUOTE]

I totally agree: Hard disks are already history. Especially, when Apple used to glue each technical mooring. Not least because the moving parts inside the Apple products should be avoided. There is no ecologically, and maintenance of a good thing for anyone that Apple's lavish use of glue.
Can you get a 5tb ssd? nope hard drives are not history.
 
"Ja Sen paremmin Ole 5400 RPM kiintolevy oletuksena. En EDES halua Nähdä Vaihtoehto mekaanisen Kiintolevyt-tila. Siirrytään ALKAA 1960 Apple!"


Olen täysin Samaa mieltä: Kiintolevyt ovat jo historiaa. Varsinkin, KUN Apple käyttää liimaa erilaisissa teknisissä kiinnitys. Ei vähiten siksi, Että liikkuvien osien sisällä Applen tuotteita Tulee välttää. Ei ole ekologisesti, ja ylläpito on Hyvä asia Kaikille, Että Applen ylenpalttinen käyttö liimaa.
 
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It will literally be a snooze fest . Nothing will ever come close to Jobs Stanford speech . Not surprising though . Jobs has always set the benchmarks high . Dude really was passionate about his products and wasn't in it for the money
 
Can you get a 5tb ssd? nope hard drives are not history.
Apple's obsessional thinking to glue all of which can have the equipment to remedy the pancake. These Apple devices do not support, therefore, to install the parts that move, such as a hard disk. Equipment, gluing makes computers disposable stuff. If the client breaks glued iMac hard drive (whose age might have only two years) does not make sense to repair it? Preparing the computer by gluing I think is complete nonsense.
 
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Apple's obsessional thinking to glue all of which can have the equipment to remedy the pancake. These Apple devices do not support, therefore, to install the parts that move, such as a hard disk. Equipment, gluing makes computers disposable stuff. If the client breaks glued iMac hard drive (whose age might have only two years) does not make sense to repair it? Preparing the computer by gluing I think is complete nonsense.
It seems most consumer electronics is disposable these days.
 
so you just wanted to brag about earning a PhD in Computational Nuclear Engineering at MIT?

sigh...

Nope. How else was I supposed to say that this news is personally interesting to me and might change my planned graduation date? Should I have said: "I'm going to some college (won't say which one) and now I'm thinking about graduating earlier due to this news!". Wouldn't have made any damn sense.

In addition, I put the specific degree to point out that I work in computing and therefore Tim Cook's presence would be a big deal to me.

That said: I am proud of my degree. I've worked my ass off for it for ~17 years (I'm 35 and took a crazy path to get here).

Your message sounds bitter to me. Why be an ass?
 
I'm not sure if you're being flippant or not, but I'm not Following you on a publicly open website. I recall your specific comments on a main page article to cease the Jobs comments. Nor I am trying to be inconsiderate by my previous post. It was merely an observation.
i was trying to be funny, sorry it came out flippant. But I was serious in my agreement with your observation that that I was mistaken with the comparison to Steve, given my previous comments. The only comparison I want to stand by is that of focus. what decisions steve would make today given the changes in technology is purely speculative, but it is clear that he was singularly focused on Apple and the vision he had for the company. And I will reiterate that I would like to see Tim have that focus. It is fact that he is involved in many things outside of Apple and those distractions are what concerns me.
 
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