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Then instead of saying, Mr. Cook is an idiot (very disrespectful), they could take the time to define their position as you have done. I for one, growing tired of simple minds using one disrespectful name calling word to attack successful people in both business and politics. Good job on your post, which I agree with.

Tim Cook is not successful so calling him an idiot is actually warranted. What is disrespectful is how him and Apple have treated their consumers in the last few years.
 
I don't think anyone is saying THEY could do a better job as CEO than Tim Cook. What they are saying is that SOMEONE could and SOMEONE should.

I for one am saying a magic 8 ball could do a better job as a CEO. It would have more personality on stage at keynotes and answer "Definitely" to "Should we update our aging product lines?" once in a while. Also 8 balls don't say "Awesome" "Pipeline" or "Watchband" so that's already a huge improvement over Timmy right there.
 
"Brilliance as a business leader"? - perhaps they know a different Tim Cook? It's been a bumpy, downhill ride ever since he's come on board.

The facts would beg to differ with you.

https://www.aboveavalon.com/notes/2016/12/6/milking-the-iphone

Accordingly, Cook should be judged on his ability to build the sandcastle over the years. Since he became CEO in 2011:

The iPhone installed base has grown by 500M users.
The iPad installed base has grown by 175M users.
The Mac installed base has grown by 50M users.
Apple introduced Apple Watch, the company's first wearable product. Approximately 18M Apple Watches, a device positioned as an iPhone accessory, have been sold to date.
Apple is earning more than $6B per year of revenue through app sales via the App Store.
Apple successfully made the difficult jump from a paid music download model to streaming and is approaching 20M paying Apple Music subscribers.
Apple continues to push forward with Apple TV. The company is approaching 10M units sold since the device was updated in 2015.
Apple continues to develop key services including Apple Pay, Messages, and Maps.
No mean feat if you ask me.
 
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Not at all bashing Tim here, I'm just saying--

Nothing will ever, ever beat Steve Jobs' 2005 Stanford Commencement Speech.

That's like saying nobody can run faster than Usain Bolt. You can be a worse orator than Steve Jobs, and still be an excellent speaker.
 
That's like saying nobody can run faster than Usain Bolt. You can be a worse orator than Steve Jobs, and still be an excellent speaker.

True, but Timmy sure isn't a good speaker. Haven't you ever watched one of his keynotes?
 
True, but Timmy sure isn't a good speaker. Haven't you ever watched one of his keynotes?

I do. I have watched every Apple keynote, and I feel that Tim Cook has improved dramatically since his first speech (the iPad 3 keynote, which was just cringe-worthy).

His tone is a tad flat and lacking in emotion, but I can feel the genuine passion and enthusiasm emanating from him. This is a guy who truly believes in what he does and says. All in all, he's a pretty good speaker, IMO. I have no issues listening to him front an entire keynote.
 
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So what political and social issues will he cover in a tech talk?
 
I love when people question Apples direction and somebody immediately replies with some sales numbers as if to prove that any doubt is misplaced :D

How does it give any indication of where Apple is headed? The answer is simple, it doesn't

Yes the iPhone is moving extraordinary numbers at the moment but nothing lasts forever, its easy to forget at the beginning of 2014 Blackberry had 85 million users worldwide.

My favorite Jobs quote ever was when he was asked about the 25th anniversary of the Mac..

No, it doesn't prove where Apple is headed, but it discredits the original post which said "Sales slumped as soon as Tim Cook took over". Obviously untrue.
 
I feel bad for MIT grads. 2 hours of listening to Timmy go on about his clogged pipeline.
Not just two hours, but at the speed time speaks at, they will all be asleep after 5 mins.

I don't think I am the only person that watches Tim at 1.25-1.5 speed?

Funny how online you have "Normal Voice", "Youtube Voice" and "Apple Voice (Tim/Ive)"
 
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Is it just me or it is becoming the norm for Americans to express even the most common things using over the top superlatives? As a European, or even worse, Danish, i find it hard to believe that everything magical, epic, extraordinary, courageous, genius, brilliant and so on. Which phrases are left when you have to describe something that really deserves these terms?
Awesome!
 
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Steve had a great commencement speech which I doubt Tim can come close to. Tim will probably talk politics and china since that seems to be the only thing he cares about these days.

More of these pale in comparisons to Cook vs Jobs comments. We get it, Cook isn't What Jobs was or is today, Vice Versa. He is Tim Cook and has his own way of addressing and delivering. But using leverage against Cook for politics reference an MIT speech is completely irrelevant and a way to jab at him, which appears you're disgruntled for some reason or another.

Aside from your dislikes, it's a privilege to be in a position to address these students and re-direct the focus to something more positive, like the future of these students and their contributions.

And yes, Steve had a great commencement speech. But wasn't it you a Month or so ago that quoted "Leave it be with the Steve Jobs comments/comparisons" on a main page article (Unknown which one). Also, I believe you stated "Jobs is dead, time to move on." If I recall correctly, it was you on a thread in which I cannot recall on the first page of comments.

In any case, perhaps leaving Jobs out of the equation for once is appropriate and respectful his name doesn't have to be mentioned every time a Cook article surfaces or is compared too.
 
"Brilliance as a business leader"? - perhaps they know a different Tim Cook? It's been a bumpy, downhill ride ever since he's come on board.
Well, they invited Tim Cook, not you.
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i hope one of them ask what the delay on Airpods or BeatsX is all about.
I believe MIT students have higher level of learning mindsets.
 
If he is not presenting the "world's lightest and thinnest diploma" or the "best diploma MIT ever created yet"; I don't see the point of listening a guy that is ruining the consumer perception and innovation pipeline of the company that changed the world.
 
If he is not presenting the "world's lightest and thinnest diploma" or the "best diploma MIT ever created yet"; I don't see the point of listening a guy that is ruining the consumer perception and innovation pipeline of the company that changed the world.
I'm glad that Tim Cook is the one running Apple, not you.
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I don't think anyone is saying THEY could do a better job as CEO than Tim Cook. What they are saying is that SOMEONE could and SOMEONE should. What they are voicing is their frustration at watching Apple stagnate and lose focus, vision, and imagination. Apple is simply coasting, resting on its laurels, while letting what was once perceived to be its "magic", its ability to surprise and amaze, die. It seems to me that anyone who would seriously dispute this is simply not paying attention to anything but the bottom line---which iDevices alone will not be able to prop-up forever.
Apple used to be, dare I say it? Different. In a good way. And now they are not. They are like everyone else, just richer, for the time being.
Apple stagnate? Lose focus?
Go review Apple under Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs was the one envisioning a different kind of Apple. Steve Jobs was the one envisioning how "computers" for consumers will be different. Remember the car vs truck analogy that Steve Jobs used?

Apple now has arguably the fastest and most efficient mobile SoC on the planet. In addition, they now have a lineup of custom silicons, focusing on mobile, from the S2 to W1. While others are simply putting over-the-shelf components with new shells every couple of months without actual focus on what they are doing, Apple has maintained the same focus that Steve Jobs embedded.

Now, Jonny Ive does seem to be going overboard on certain things, and Apple needs somebody as a counter for Ive. However, Apple's focus remain the same from Steve Jobs era to today.
 
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"You don't need a college degree in the 21st century, it was made up 1000 years ago..."
 
I do. I have watched every Apple keynote, and I feel that Tim Cook has improved dramatically since his first speech (the iPad 3 keynote, which was just cringe-worthy).

His tone is a tad flat and lacking in emotion, but I can feel the genuine passion and enthusiasm emanating from him. This is a guy who truly believes in what he does and says. All in all, he's a pretty good speaker, IMO. I have no issues listening to him front an entire keynote.

He's truly awful at keynotes. Comes across as putting on a fake, forced enthusiasm of someone reading lines but not really understanding them or probably caring too much either. The funniest one was when he was pretending to enthuse about Swift. Other than the bird does anyone think he knows what it is?
 
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Was just about to post this too.

Then post it again and get the message out there. People seem to have this funny notion that Person X is somehow losing the plot just because they don't do Y, where Y is whatever they want Apple to do. While completely downplaying everything else that Apple has accomplished all this while.
 
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I think they needed a 15" or 17" souped up version of a MBP and that would have squashed some of the criticism. A graphics amplifier may have helped as well. 4 amazing future proof USB ports and nothing made for them. Apple failed IMO to show why they matter right now.

I do think he needs to answer MS and their push at creatives. I'd also like to seem him focus on catering to mac devs. Apple is about the mac. Iphones are nice and responsible for the bulk of profits and all, but I wouldn't really be interested in that without the Mac.

And sure, I'm for Apple getting their required margins but Apple could be a bit less transparent in that department. Steve had a way of getting those profits too without seeming that greedy about it.

Totally agreed. Leaving the 17" behind ( I still use a 2008) for "Pros" is a big mistake.
By now I think they could put all of what is in an iMac into a 17" MBP with a killer graphics card.

Pros use larger displays or would if that option was available in a power configuration.

I have been using my MBPs in clamshell mode with a display for years now and do not miss a desktop.

As for the USB-C, yes, they clearly missed explaining the future with a few examples.

And, maybe I missed it, but why the magsafe was discontinued beats me.
 
Completely off topic, but anyway:)

Is it just me or it is becoming the norm for Americans to express even the most common things using over the top superlatives? As a European, or even worse, Danish, i find it hard to believe that everything magical, epic, extraordinary, courageous, genius, brilliant and so on. Which phrases are left when you have to describe something that really deserves these terms?
We're a nation of coffee drinkers and social media addicts. How do you expect us to describe things with all of the caffeine in our systems and an attention span truncated by Twitter induced ADHD and a vocabulary increasingly dependent on emojis? ;):D
 
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