Apple CEO Tim Cook Urges U.S. President to Stay in Paris Climate Pact

[jonblatho]

How so? A net negative compared to what? Any facts to back it up or are we just using "emotional science"?

Say you have 1 unit of carbon dioxide absorbed by a plant over its lifetime.

The atmosphere gets about 0.5 units back in the same time period.

delta = final – initial = 0.5 – 1 = –0.5 units.

In source/sink terminology, plants are sinks, not sources, of carbon dioxide.

 

[amegicfox]

concerned about the climate the guy who:

- kills iPhone/iPads and Macs with Planned Obsolescence
- solders ram on the iMac, Mac Mini and laptops so you can't upgrade
- lobbies Washington to fight the ‘right to repair’ legislation
- use child labors and dumps all toxic minerals in rivers and landfills
- laugh and denigrate Apple customers who use a mac that is 5 years old



then we have another hypocrite, Elon a tool who came here penniless and:

- screwed the original engineer that actually built tesla
- used the USA government loans to save his failing company
- avoided paying taxes in nevada with a lie to hire thousands of workers
- sell cars to liberal millionaires using profitless companies by milking the government

Elon go back to South Africa instead of threatening the president to withdrawal,
and try to take with you your blood sucking profitless companies.

we are paying 1/2 of each tesla with our tax money, the president should stop this immediately

 

[mac_in_tosh]

Democratic party at its weakest point since the 30's

Dem candidate got 3 million more votes than your avatar.

 

[amegicfox]

liberals and globalists try to make you believe that either we subscribe to the paris climate change or tomorrow we will be forced to drink filthy water

just because we are not locked into a stupid globalist pact doesn't mean USA companies tomorrow can dump toxic uranium into the USA water

be wise and don't fall for the propaganda !!

 

[hagar]

liberals and globalists try to make you believe that either we subscribe to the paris climate change or tomorrow we will be forced to drink filthy water

just because we are not locked into a stupid globalist pact doesn't mean USA companies tomorrow can dump toxic uranium into the USA water

be wise and don't fall for the propaganda !!

Uranium has nothing to do with climate change. Don't throw all pollution on one pile. Also, climate change is not invented by liberals or globalist. It's a real phenomenon studied by thousands scientists like me.

The only reason there's so much commotion about it is because it doesn't fit some politicians agenda. So they started casting doubt and negating it. With success. A politician, looking at figures and facts, knows the right thing to do is to act. All the other have their own personal agenda.

 

[BaltimoreMediaBlog]

Well - this is problematic. We could see increased device costs if nations choose to pursue punishment.

That is simply not true. Apple has already joined in committing to the Paris treaty and meets its requirements regardless of what the US Government does, so it should have no impact on Apple or even Microsoft (which also signed onto the agreement).

 

[whitesand]

Withdrawing from the agreement despite the settled scientific consensus is very unfortunate and will potentially have very bad consequences for future generations.

It will be one of those moments in history that we look back on and ask "What were they thinking??"

And the climate commies come out in full force petrified of C02...the irony of the the "green" movement wanting to get rid of the very substance plants need.....The science isn't settled...Don't you realize there was global cooling science by the same perps just 30 years prior....

Isn't it funny how the climate commies talk about carbon emissions but not a peep about the "clean" nuclear power...lol...Yea one nuke disaster and an entire city is uninhabitable for 100 years...What a mind job that has been done on these people.

There are real environmental concerns...Carbon dioxide is not a big deal and the science is settled on that one.

 

[lunarworks]

I'm sure another Dust Bowl will do wonderful things for America.

Make America Great (Depression) Again!

 

[JDW]

Trump is a deal-maker and as such he should simply tell Cook, "Look. Just restore the SD card slot, one legacy 10Gbps USB-A port, a good keyboard with more key travel, a bigger battery, and the MBP 17" edition, and I'll agree." If Tim seeks to get involved in politics, the art of compromise is necessary!

By the way, I read both AppleInsider and MacRumors daily, but I prefer this forum because the moderation is far more tolerant. I went to the AppleInsider forum first today and laughed as I saw how they closed forum comments under the same article on Trump/Cook. I don't know what kind of comments there caused that, but I doubt they are any different than those found here. Let freedom reign!

 

[mozumder]

LOL I really thought you were trolling there until I realized how off-base you are, and that you're serious. Less government = capitalism thrives. Look at history for an example of that. Actually, many examples.

Yes I agree that more government produces a wealthier society.

Who wants to be a poor country like Somalia? Only Republicans that live in the countryside where they have to poop in outhouses want that.

Real Americans in New York and California don't want to live like these poor Republicans and their small government.
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Yeah let's trust a site that promotes the man made global warming agenda. Real unbiased source. Again, Mother Nature has built in feedback loops. Plants and CO2 are that such loop. Wasn't too long ago that scientists were trying to figure out the balance of algae (a plant) to combat the rise of CO2 levels...

I still don't know where you got your science degree.
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OHHHHHH so that's why the liberals are all about handouts and freebies and welfare. Been wondering why that was for a while now you have explained it perfectly. Because "people that work hard are never rich". Well there ya go. Thanks for the info!

Correct.

Hard work is for the poor.
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Well you do realize that each and every second the sun grows larger. So eventually the earth will become uninhabited - man contributes but show me your evidence that paying $$$$$$ to a climate pact will save us.

Yes, the scientists already showed you that.

What is your excuse?

Are you a scientist?

 

[Salty Pirate]

Yeah let's trust a site that promotes the man made global warming agenda. Real unbiased source. Again, Mother Nature has built in feedback loops. Plants and CO2 are that such loop. Wasn't too long ago that scientists were trying to figure out the balance of algae (a plant) to combat the rise of CO2 levels...

but you blindly trust the UN, al gore and obama??? bhahaabhahahahhahaa
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I'm not sure where you heard that plants produce carbon dioxide into our atmosphere, but that's objectively wrong.

There's no physical reason why warmer temperatures would increase carbon dioxide more than negligibly. There's a lot of physical reason why increased carbon dioxide would result in non-negligibly warmer temperatures. We've seen it happen and continue to.

sure they do genius boy...when they die.

 

[Kabeyun]

There is no settled scientific consensus.

You are simply factually incorrect. There is. Not liking that fact won't change it, although I can certainly understand several reasons why you wouldn't like it. And finding the dissent of a loony or two doesn't undo anything. All you and your ilk are proving is that you haven't read the science, and probably that you don't even understand how science works. It's like creationists using the layman sense of the word "theory" to dismiss evolution. Huff and puff all you want, science doesn't give a crap what you think.

 

[unobtainium]

And the climate commies come out in full force petrified of C02...the irony of the the "green" movement wanting to get rid of the very substance plants need.....The science isn't settled...Don't you realize there was global cooling science by the same perps just 30 years prior....

Isn't it funny how the climate commies talk about carbon emissions but not a peep about the "clean" nuclear power...lol...Yea one nuke disaster and an entire city is uninhabitable for 100 years...What a mind job that has been done on these people.

There are real environmental concerns...Carbon dioxide is not a big deal and the science is settled on that one.

Your opinions aren't based in science and are completely irrelevant to science.

CO2 levels in the atmosphere have to be above a certain threshold and below a certain threshold in order for life as we know it to exist. If you want to see what a runaway greenhouse effect looks like, Venus is a nice example.

But I can already tell I'm wasting my time. You've chosen to ignore the scientific consensus and believe your fake news/conspiracy blogs instead. Great, have fun with that.

 

[npmacuser5]

Not a scientist, are you? If you are, are you funded by the UN or the US Government? Please state your certifications , degrees and published works on the matter.

I am a private citizen who recoils at the suggestion, "the science is settled". Science is never settled.

If it was a crisis of human survival, would leonardo by yachting all over the world and flying people(burning tons of carbon) to film festivals? Obama flying jets and motorcades to speak at climate conferences (for big $$$). Would a video feed have been more responsible?

Plenty of evidence that the earth is just fine and climate systems change. Oh the arrogance to think we could change the climate and/or "fix" it.

Short memory you have. We removed lead from gas, forced reductions in vehicle emissions, reduced carbon emissions, results compared to 40 years ago, cleaner air over many cities like LA. Oh yea, now selling 8 times as many cars as back then, more jobs in the industry, and cleaner air. Climate deniers, "not my fault and nothing I can do about it anyway" as opposed to those who "let's clean up the messes humans make assisting Earth in its cleanup efforts". Other-words deniers have a hard time accepting responsibility first and foremost, and thus reject scientific conclusions.

 

[imac_g4_1702]

No proof of man-made climate change. Plenty of evidence without tampering with data to suggest there is no man-made change.

If we are going to invoke economic policy that has the potential to make US products expensive and uncompetitive, it better be solid.

Musk has a vested interest in perpetuating the climate myth, does Apple need justification for all the solar and biomass? I think not. A private corporation can do what they want.

I personally think solar power is really cool and fascinating, just don't want the government mandating it.

You probably dont live in a city. If you have a chance, try to breathe in. You can FEEL the emission playing its role.

There are more scientific evidences and factual evidences that proves the climate change exists.

 

[GoldenJoe]

Who elected Cook? Tired of this guy using Apple to push his political agenda.

 

[Salty Pirate]

Short memory you have. We removed lead from gas, forced reductions in vehicle emissions, reduced carbon emissions, results compared to 40 years ago, cleaner air over many cities like LA. Oh yea, now selling 8 times as many cars as back then, more jobs in the industry, and cleaner air. Climate deniers, "not my fault and nothing I can do about it anyway" as opposed to those who "let's clean up the messes humans make assisting Earth in its cleanup efforts". Other-words deniers have a hard time accepting responsibility first and foremost, and thus reject scientific conclusions.

All those things have absolutely nothing to do with pollution. CO2 is not pollution.

I am for a clean environment, clean air and water, but lumping CO2 in the same boat is laughable.

Plenty of science out there that says there is no man-made global warming.

 

[magicschoolbus]

Dem candidate got 3 million more votes than your avatar.

Don't hate the player hate the game.

Nashville Predators got double the amount of shots on goal vs the Pittsburgh Penguins and still lost game one.

Big deal.

 

[Salty Pirate]

You probably dont live in a city. If you have a chance, try to breathe in. You can FEEL the emission playing its role.

There are more scientific evidences and factual evidences that proves the climate change exists.

I do live in a city and I have asthma. You cannot feel CO2 unless there was no air to breathe, so I guess in a garage, that would be bad.

CO2 is not pollution. In fact, the best and most notable thing was when Clinton mandated low sulfur diesel fuel. That made the air cleaner from soot and nitrous oxides. CO2 still there.

 

[npmacuser5]

All those things have absolutely nothing to do with pollution. CO2 is not pollution.

I am for a clean environment, clean air and water, but lumping CO2 in the same boat is laughable.

Plenty of science out there that says there is no man-made global warming.

So dumping more coal polution does not impact air quality? Not the point, cleanup our created messes and the Earth will be just fine. Stop treating the Earth like a toilet in the name of jobs more direct. FYI, CO2 emissions by cars and transportation also reduced by the car industry. I did not name every polution in my point.

 

[profets]

In other news, Apple customers urge Tim Cook to focus on Apple.

Yup, because Cook definitely isn't focused on Apple.

 

[hagar]

All those things have absolutely nothing to do with pollution. CO2 is not pollution.

I am for a clean environment, clean air and water, but lumping CO2 in the same boat is laughable.

Plenty of science out there that says there is no man-made global warming.

Water is not a pollutant, but drink gallons of it and you will die.

CO2 is not a pollutant, but it does trap heat from the sun in our atmosphere. That is a good thing as otherwise there won't be any life on Earth as the temperature would be roughly 30 degrees Celsius lower. That's a fact. But now it's trapping too much heat causing the global temperature to (slowly) raise. Already 1.1 degree Celsius in the last century. That's a fact. We cannot explain that rise without taking the dramatic man-caused raise in CO2 (and other greenhouse gases) into account. That's a fact.

Don't quote pseudo science or fake news, if you don't know anything about real science.

 

[AdonisSMU]

In other news, Apple customers urge Tim Cook to focus on Apple.

What makes you think he isn't focused on Apple.
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Yeah let's trust a site that promotes the man made global warming agenda. Real unbiased source. Again, Mother Nature has built in feedback loops. Plants and CO2 are that such loop. Wasn't too long ago that scientists were trying to figure out the balance of algae (a plant) to combat the rise of CO2 levels...

What do you need filtered water for. Mother Nature has built into our bodies feedback loops that will allow white blood cells to kill off any infections resulting from unfiltered water.

 

[bigchief]

Does anyone remember reading about the ice age before the dinosaurs and the ice age after the dinosaurs?

 

[hagar]

Does anyone remember reading about the ice age before the dinosaurs and the ice age after the dinosaurs?

Yes, and how do we know all this? Because of the work of climate scientists. So why would you believe them if they tell you the climate has been changing for millions of years. But not when they tell you we are putting dangerous amounts of greenhouses gases in the atmosphere, and running the risk of derailing the climate?

Denying climate change is the equivalent of going to the doctor, who tells you he discovered metastatic cancer, but you're response is: "what the heck, that's impossible, I'm still breathing!" and refuse all treatment. You may well be alive in 3-6 months, but you won't be in 3-6 years.

Doctors can't predict the future, and neither can climate scientists. But they can make pretty accurate assumptions based on solid scientific data we shouldn't ignore.