Apple CEO Tim Cook: ‘We Have Great Desktops in Our Roadmap'

Daniel Reed said:
Yup, don't be shocked when the next "computer" appliances from Apple AFTER iMac & iMac Pro are ARM based sans Intel.

Apple isn't the only camp going ARM.
Both M$hit and Crapple are pushing that way.
Win10 is up and running on ARM, and all "universal apps" run on a phone - imagine using BASH from your phone!
Apple switching desktops to a HW platform based as mobile devices - bitcode to help push full programs to iOS.
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"M$hit and Crapple". clever
 
djcerla said:
That's your opinion, not a fact. People don't line up like yesterday for unexciting stuff.
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People would line up even for an iPoop.... but that does not make it a good product (yes we had good and bad product before).

Also, the number of people in the queue is irrelevand, the important thing is WHO is lining up!

Keep in mind teenages are not brand tied, Apple is cool now so that's what they line up for, all it takes is another "cooler" brand and you lose most of them, so it is important to keep the "core" users next to you, you will need it eventually!!

You were the coolest kid in town if you had the latest Nokia back in 1990... and we all know where is Nokia today, you are the coolest kid in town if you have an iPhone today... but things changes (for every company)!

They are losing Pros, and prosumers, and gaining "cool kids", what will happen when Apple isn't cool anymore?
 
Rogifan said:
What new processors are available for the iMac right now?
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Kaby desktop is shipping to OEM's now, Kaby mobile is out and Polaris is here..

I could see an iMac and MM fairly early next year but the Mac Pro is probably on hold until Vega so Juneish
 
Naraxus said:
Cook reassured nothing. He's been giving people the same line of "Products in the pipeline" ever since he became CEO and he has consistently failed to deliver. He gives us mediocre & sub-par-spec'd laptops & even worse desktops. The Mac Pro refresh in 2013 was an abysmal failure with 2012 specs (if that) at 2014 prices. The iMac's were some of the best-in-class, if not tops-in-class and now are nowhere near such.

Cook can say whatever bs he wants to but he certainly did nothing more than give the Apple faithful the same lines he's been giving for the last five years.
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I remember the first Mac I bought with my own money, an iBook G4. In an era when Windows laptops were clunky, needed to be tied to the wall by a power brick most of the time and performed poorly the iBook was a work of art. It was worth putting up with the occasional incompatibility or a PowerPoint presentation that didn't look quite right on the Windows PC. Even post the Intel transition that difference was maintained.

Now Mac's feel like they offer nothing special other than macOS. In terms of functionality and increasingly in aesthetics Windows PC's have caught up and on some counts (e.g. touch interface) surpass their Mac cousins. Windows 10 is a competent OS and Microsoft appear to be hitting a lot of positive notes.

It is not that I want to put the boot in. I want a desktop that feels as great a departure from the boring beige boxes that the PowerPC macs of old were. A MacBook Pro that actually lives up to the name and makes Windows notebooks second class citizens.
 
Tim Cook has Obama syndrome as far as some mac heads are concerned. No matter what he says, no matter what products he releases, no matter what the numbers say, Cook is still **** as far as they are concerned.

Mac head's have turned into the "Tech Tea Party". Forever wanting to make "Macs great again"... Forgetting that Macs were good for those that enjoyed installing pci cards and having scsi ports fried.. but not for the vast majority of normal people. Its amazing how many parallels you can draw between political and tech zealots these days...
 
Let's see how he will ruin iMacs, too (and they're already much worse than 3-4 years ago, anyway).
 
"He says the current iMac is the best desktop Apple's ever made"

This is so stupid. Of course the latest model is the best, anything else would be a scandal.
 
Tork said:
I don't understand all the negativity against Apple when it's been very clearly documented that it's Intel that's taking forever to release suitable desktop Kaby Lake processors. The iMac already has a Skylake processor and there's literally nothing to release yet. Yes, Mac Pro and mini....quite obviously could've been upgraded in the meantime. But here's hoping for a desktop sweep when the Kaby Lakes arrive in the next few months.
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So when Intel do release new stuff, Apple make great computers. When Apple have no new stuff it’s Intels fault?

No! It’s Intels fault that Intel have no new processors and that’s where it ends. Apple have the choice to go ARM, Intel, AMD or use their own A10X. It’s the fault of Apple and Apple alone that they don't have new processors.
Last I heard the A10X was 'desktop class' and the iPad was being compared to laptops.

After a good few years though not as many as some, of exclusively new Apple products, (I did buy a second hand DOS box and notebook for £60 in total), I purchased a Surface Pro 4. Not actually sure at this point if this marks a permanent shift away from the walled garden.
Some guy in another thread said that if you keep buying Apple gear you are telling them that the direction in which they are headed is the correct one, so this time I’ve put my money where my mouth is.
 
Has Cook ever said anything original? He seems to talk entirely in cliches. The poor Mac lineup is a reflection of his terribly dull personality.

To be honest, a tube of pringles could do a better job than him.
 
ardchoille50 said:
The proper procedure is to take a complaint to the people who are in a position to do something about the problem, that is the best way to have an issue resolved. And, that is what I did. The people who are in a position to do something about my complaint arent listening. They don't realize that they're showing the exact same behavior (refusal to listen) as that which is the basis of their complaints (Apple's refusal to listen).

The folks who are complaining on these forums that "Apple is washed up", "Tim needs to go" or "Apple products suck" should take those complaints to the proper people, in this case Apple. Posting those complaints on these forums will do nothing to solve the problem.
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The best people to instigate a change are the consumers. Anyone researching a multi-thousand dollar investment will see unrest in the mac fan base, the biggest of which is macrumors, and that will affect their decisions. This WILL be noticed by apple, who will have to choose to react. So you may not like it, but us "whining"on here will have an effect.
 
Still won't be able to hold a candle to older iMacs. For example my Late 2009 21.5" iMac.

Fast, Reliable, User serviceable, complete with a Superdrive with 12GB DDR3 RAM and a 1TB Seagate SSHD Hybrid Drive it flies.
 
lowendlinux said:
Kaby desktop is shipping to OEM's now, Kaby mobile is out and Polaris is here..

I could see an iMac and MM fairly early next year but the Mac Pro is probably on hold until Vega so Juneish
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Processors weren't really a problem in the iMac. You could always get the top-of-the-line Intel chips in the iMac. For example... i7-4790K and i7-6700K... both quad-core 8-thread CPUs that made the iMac a beast.

The Mac Mini, however, suffered in its last iteration. The loss of quad-core was troubling... and then it sat idle for another two years. I don't really know where it goes from here.

The Mac Pro and its reliance on Xeon processors and ECC memory puts it into a completely different space. People wanted a powerful computer... but they didn't really need "server-grade" components. And I don't really know where it goes either. (the 1,000+ days without an update might be a big clue...)

CPUs are getting (slightly) better all the time. So I hope Apple keeps selecting good CPUs for its desktops... whatever that product line ends up being.

The GPU is where the biggest issues arise in Apple's desktops. I wish Apple could put a "desktop-grade" GPU in the iMac. And they probably could if it didn't remain so thin.

Or maybe finally offer a "headless" Mac. :)

Look at what ASUS was able to do: an i7-6700K and a full desktop GTX 1080 in a relatively small case. It's small, quiet and cool for less than $2,000. Add a good monitor and it still costs less than the Mac Pro by itself.


Oh it's ugly as sin... but who sits and looks at their computer that much? :D

According to PassMark benchmarks... i7-6700K scores 11074 which is higher than the score of 9474 in the Mac Pro's almost 4 year-old processor.

And we already know that the GTX 1080 is a beast. ASUS proved that small and powerful can coexist.

But after typing all this... I can honestly envision Apple's future line of desktops where the Mac Mini and Mac Pro are gone... and a new "iMac Pro" is released in addition to the normal iMac.

Oh it'll be "pro" in name... but it will still have strange tradeoffs like mobile GPUs and other nonsense.
 
Oh tim, here's hoping you can at least listen to what people want on this one. All apple need do is design it so that they can update internals as and when new hardware comes out. Refreshes are fine.

I personally wish for a super thin bezel like 2-3mm all around. Maybe it can have a chin though knowing apple it'll have a BLOODY TOUCH STRIP along it for touch ID and other useless stuff we'll pay through the nose for. Though more like the touch strip will be in a new keyboard.

Ports: i'm predicting all USBC and nothing else including the power socket. It'll literally be a huge iPad without the touch screen. Sad days are ahead, the direction apple is taking is getting worrisome. I still think it would have been better apple did a transition generation than dump all IO now.
 
For those haters! This comment/new is far better than nothing at all!! Until now we thought that mac mini/mac pro are dead!
 
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