Cool. But except that Apple desktops have MOBILE COMPONENTS!
Apple thinks that a desktop Mac should be thin as hell even if nobodys sees it beacause we all sit in front of it ...
Cool. But except that Apple desktops have MOBILE COMPONENTS!
The truth is that 99% of users have no need for the additional power you're talking about. For most, the power the current MacBook offers is more than they need. Remember that the average user browses the internet, sends some emails, does a bit of social media, and maybe some light word processing. That's about it. It's why Chromebooks sell well, as most don't need much power at all. Those of us that need the power a MacPro offers are very very few, which is why Apple has put so little into keeping it current.
Do I want a new MacPro to replace my current one, yes (remember that 99% of those that complain about the MacPro here will never buy one even if it was 10x as capable just as those that complain about Porsches are generally those that aren't in the market for one). Do I understand why Apple has focused their efforts on other things like the iPhone, iPad, and MacBook Pro, rather than the very low volume MacPro, yes. Even with the most amazing MacPro they're still going to sell 1 of them for every 1000 MBPs they sell. Any company would be silly to put huge investment into the product that sells the lowest volume when they can make far more investing in the higher selling items.
Touchbar on the new Magic Keyboard. Magical....
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stop whining about the whiners who whine about whiners.
Exactly! And that is why he assembles the majority of their products in China.'Doesn't do things for a return on investment' - is that why an iPhone cable is $25..
"You don't know that whining isn't going to help..."
Ok, let me ask you this: How has that been working for ya so far?
Has it brought back the CD drive? How about axing the floppy disk - that was a huge whine-worthy crowd pleaser. Has whining brought back FireWire ports? The DVI connector?
Has it brought back full-travel keyboards - will a good whine bring those back? How about desktop computers with card slots? Perhaps keyboards and mice with user-replaceable disposable batteries, has Apple brought those back? Has it made laptops thicker, festooned with a ton of legacy connectors? Do you expect Apple's next laptop to have 20 year old USB A ports if you whine loud enough, and really mean it?
Maybe a more hearty whine will bring back a much thicker iPhone? How did that huge whine-fest work out for the ton of people complaining about the first iPhone getting rid of physical keyboard keys - did those come back? How about a 1 week battery that pre-1997 phones had - has whining brought that back?
How about Apple's executives? Has the constant moaning about them and calling for their termination worked out?
I could go on and on. In the meantime, again, how has whining been working for ya?
"You're just trying to dismiss Mac users whose growing contempt for Apple threatens your confidence and peace of mind."
Whoa, a three-fer: A deflection, straw man, and a tiny precious ad hominem all rolled into one. Rush me to the burn unit!
No, sorry to disappoint. I'm not dismissing anyone's gripes - I believe they're important to people. Just wondering when people will finally understand that whining will not influence Apple's product direction.
Do you really want to influence Apple's product plans? It's easy. Stand up, vote with your wallet and buy something that meets your requirements. That's what I'd do. And for sure, there's no way I'd embarrass myself on a public forum crying about a company not making products I need; especially when there are other options out there.
I do offer a huge tip-o-my-hat and a ton of respect to those that have actually stood up, opened their wallet and have actually switched.
there's no way I'd embarrass myself on a public forum crying
need mac mini with TB3 so we can hookup an eGPU for a reasonable pro machine
The CPU and GPU are not mobile or am I mistaken?
Huge thread full of nothing but complaints.
Apple needs to remember that they need the 'gateway' entry item to convince the masses they need to enter the ecosystem. I came in from a different direction, however, these are different times, based on the tech that is now coming out.
Many people use both platforms, and are interested in comparisons and are interested in analysis.Also, I stand behind my original comment which you partially quoted. Why are there so many Windows and Android shills on a Mac Forum?
I really wish Apple, or a company like it, would go into the Pro/Enterprise market. Make simple, yet powerful computers for niche markets like 3D creation, data centers, etc. Make them powerful enough to do the heavy lifting, yet easy to use, manage and upgrade. Add in amazing service for when things break down.
I'm old enough to remember System X from Virginia Tech. Made it to the top 10 most powerful supercomputers using only Xserves. I find power and simplicity aren't always mutually exclusive. I just someone could build a powerful, yet simple & sexy computers for the power user.
Why is why I'm still using a 2007 iMac and none of the wider family macs are getting replaced.
Still, when you entire exec team is less than five years from retirement, is it any wonder that the focus is on short term profit rather than the long term value of the company and its relationship to its customer?
Could someone please tell Tom Crook that the iPad Pro is not a desktop?
Apple got out of the server market for a reason. There's not a lot of profit there even when companies are buying huge deployments. The competition is fierce which drives down profits and means the cost of competing is high.
Sadly the niche market isn't very profitable. There are only a small number of users looking for a machine like the MacPro when compared to the iMac, MB, and MBP.
In addition to that, if you're already working with a small market, adding the ability to easily upgrade the machines means even less sales as now people can just add more RAM, a new processor, or upgraded graphics card. That means they're going to buy from you even less often. These niche markets upgrade very infrequently, often going 5 years or more without updating hardware. That means the opportunity for sales is very low.
There's a reason most companies haven't been going crazy catering to this market. It's simply not profitable to do so when there are much bigger markets offering far greater sales.
A lot of people are very underwhelmed and unhappy with the tbMBP's, but Apple would call them the most amazing notebooks on the planet if you asked them.
Guess what people suspect will be the next iteration of the iMac and MacPro?
Me, personally, I don't care about desktops any more. The most important device class for me is the notebook for power users - and Apple has ****ed those up royally. So, I am currently looking at options in the PC world.
⬆︎THIS³ (cubed) !
[doublepost=1482231563][/doublepost]If you can't run DaVinci Resolve at 4k and full Pro Tools HD without throttling, then it's not really a real computer. So step it up, thinboys.
We went from quad core to dual core last time. So I guess we will get a single core this round.
A mesmerizing rant, full of italics and bolds, signifying nothing. But this was the best part: