Yeah that'll be updated. They care about the Mac Pro but they just haven't been working as mfast as they could be. They've taken their "don't release it until everything is ready" approach too far.
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Apple CEO Tim Cook: ‘We Have Great Desktops in Our Roadmap'
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So basically what a Windows PC components Desktop machine already does with it's PCI slots... there are already many of them on the market or you can even build your own one with dedicated components. Putting all those internal hardware components into external boxes with additional power supply doesn't really make sense and is driving up overall cost... A Laptop is a laptop with energy saving purpose and a Desktop is a Workstation for 24 hours full power purpose.
But Apple doesn't get this.
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I'm sure it impacted sales slightly, but I hope they sort it out . I'm sure part of the reason for doing it was to encourage those customers to buy the then soon to be released Mac Pro instead.
‘Great desktops in our roadmap’ is vaporware. If he defines great as more thin + more hot + more solder + more dongles + more mobileware then it’s vaporware with an unpleasant smell. Need I spell that?
i wouldn't be surprised if engineers in cupertino use microsoft computers for the lack of power macs
There's plenty to update outside of the processor and that's what my post was all about. They're using the processor as an excuse not to change anything else. In any case you'd think that the price of something old would go down over time as the ROI increases but Apple's being disingenuous here on gross profit margin.
You say that as if I have some stake in this discussion, when in reality I was just mocking you.
That would be a bad management decision from Apple - like if Microsoft would force all Office developers to work on the Client or Server Operating system (of course, they aren't doing that). Doesn't make sense in a way of how to drive operations in the development division successfully and efficient.
What, you didn't know? The Apple watch when connected to a display IS the new Mac Pro. Damn Xeon keeps burning my wrist though.
Please. This from a company which is selling—among other trifles—a third-party deadbolt lock for a front door on its site.
As for the iMac being the best desktop they've ever produced, wouldn't that rather be the 2012 Mac Pro tower, something with power and expandability?
This doesn't compute. Customers are moving away from desktops to mobile, and most probably belong there. Those favoring the form factor of a desktop over even a laptop are likely dwindling. Those that need the real estate and power that only a desktop can offer will have to look beyond Tim Cook's Apple.
Got it. You're just trolling with nothing to contribute. And still not able to respond to your assertion, "You don't know that whining isn't going to help, or what Apple's going to do in the future," when challenged.
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How, at what cost, and for who?
Skylake never shipped more than 4 core Xeon's, and they didn't allow for more than one socket, so the best Apple could have done was Haswell.
Getting to 64 cores on Haswell would have been close to $20,000 just in processor hardware, and would require a completely different system design and people would still be complaining that it was Haswell.
If you look at how the Intel designs progressed, it's pretty clear what happened-- Apple designed around Ivy Bridge, Haswell didn't make enough of a performance different to justify the extra heat and redesign, Skylake gave Xeon a miss, Kaby Lake was delayed.
What people are ignoring is that most people here have probable spent a ridiculous amount of money on Apple gear. When I was flipping through "Designed in CA" I or my family have bought about half the items in it. I've been making money off Macs since my SE/30 with the RasterOps monitor card, and that hasn't stopped.
That said, except for graphics the performance of components has leveled off. There was an SSD-based performance explosion, but - for desktop and xeon CPUs performance gains have been incremental for about 6 years. My i7 from 2009 is just fine.
That means any "innovation" is around the basic form of the device, which is not something the current Apple design team will do. They would never do something like the original iMac because they look at it as a gimmick...which it was, but it was a serious differentiator. Cook doesn't have enough mojo to push for that kind of thing.
Is touch a gimmick? Maybe, but I've used it and it's no more or less of a gimmick than the Magic Trackpad. Does it provide value? Yes. Is it a game-changing technology? No. But Apple's now bound to Intel's roadmap, for better or worse, so game-changing technologies will be few and far between.
That said, except for graphics the performance of components has leveled off. There was an SSD-based performance explosion, but - for desktop and xeon CPUs performance gains have been incremental for about 6 years. My i7 from 2009 is just fine.
That means any "innovation" is around the basic form of the device, which is not something the current Apple design team will do. They would never do something like the original iMac because they look at it as a gimmick...which it was, but it was a serious differentiator. Cook doesn't have enough mojo to push for that kind of thing.
Is touch a gimmick? Maybe, but I've used it and it's no more or less of a gimmick than the Magic Trackpad. Does it provide value? Yes. Is it a game-changing technology? No. But Apple's now bound to Intel's roadmap, for better or worse, so game-changing technologies will be few and far between.
At least for MacPro, the problem is that suitable SkyLake Xeon's aren't shipping until next year... Currently they cap out at 4 cores and one socket (if I'm reading the internets correctly)...
That is the point. Why spending so much money for a Apple computer if all you get is middle-class mobile graphics card hardware? For that money you could build two high-end pc computers with high-level performance of graphics. Ever played games or doing virtual reality on Macs? Overheating of their GPUs is the next issue because of the thin design.
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You don't understand my use case or economic position so do yourself a favour and stop trying to think you know me better than I do.
... or a lot people are just really unsatisfied with Apple. Look at the facts, they have reason to be.