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I'm in dire need so I hope he is correct. I was hopeful when the MBPs were released but they turned out to be another media *consumption* device. Hopefully this trend doesn't carry over to the iMac.

It better have and SD slot, substantial processor upgrade, 8 gigs ram base and powerful options under $2k or I am totally out of the Apple ecosystem.
 
Since that's clearly not going to happen, why not just move on with your life and buy a Dell/Sanyo/Lenovo/whatever and find some happiness?

If Ford was not going to make cars that meet my needs, next time I needed a car I'd get another brand. Whining about Ford would not be a solution.
First, I find that a lousy analogy.
If you have to go with a car analogy (I thought that was a slashdot thing), then how about this:
I loved Ford's minivan, but Ford leadership felt that even though their minivans were quite popular, they no longer fit Ford's image, so they stopped making them, deciding to focus on crossovers and the Flex instead. So instead, you suggest I go to Honda.
Honda has a great minivan, but their entertainment system sucks. It wants to fight with my iPhone all the time, whereas Ford had carplay. Every time I got in my Ford, my phone did exactly what I thought it should, but in the Honda I have to screw with my phone or the stereo EVERY DAMN TIME I WANT TO GO TO WORK.

So, what I really want, is for Ford to recognize they are losing sales and profit by not making a minivan anymore. Either start making a minivan again, or at least make the gates on their crossovers, SUVs, or Flex big enough to put my damn wheelchair in without needing to dissasemble / reassemble it every damn time.

I may have gotten sidetracked by the whole car analogy thing there....
 
You would think that having to put out statements like this pretty often now, for what seems several years, should be a big red flag that you are NOT taking the "commitment" seriously enough. IF Apple were properly committed to the Mac, in all its forms, these statements would be completely unnecessary because it would be obvious to just about everyone that apple was still committed to the Mac. Because the products would be updated very regularly, as the iPhone and iPad are, and because there would be much less complaining from Mac users that the products that finally do get released are not focused on the things (like performance or "pro" features) that Mac users want most. Apple is so damn big now that if they can't put out regular Mac updates along with their other products it can only mean that Mac is a low priority product line. And the repeated line about being committed to it just sounds completely patronizing.
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Kaby Lake...neither a "tick" nor a "tock"...no wonder MS is looking at arm processors for windows 10
I think it's about time Apple makes their own processors for their desktops and laptops. Going with Intel was a good idea at the time but I think Apple could do better now.
 
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This seems like proof that Tim is reading MR. We suspected that Samsung did so they could copy Apple before Apple even made the product, but now Tim is all worked up over the media. He had to send a memo to the Apple employees to try to instill confidence.
 
Committed to desktops - and it took several years before the Mac Pro came out. I'm sure they will refresh the iMac and it will be faster. But I wonder what they'll kill off just to be courageous.

So far - no buyers remorse at all for buying a 2015 5K iMac.
 
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Since that's clearly not going to happen, why not just move on with your life and buy a Dell/Sanyo/Lenovo/whatever and find some happiness?

If Ford was not going to make cars that meet my needs, next time I needed a car I'd get another brand. Whining about Ford would not be a solution.
You'll never get what you want if you don't let it be know what you want.
This is one of the few outlets frustrated Mac users have to express their unhappiness with the company they so love.
Tim never says stuff like this but the out cry has been long and continuous.
Why do you thing they cut prices on some of the extras people had to buy.
They wanted to be nice or to quell the criticism?
Maybe you want to roll over, most of us don't.
 
People don't give Tim Cook enough credit. He's regularly accused of being too numbers-focused around here. He may not be the singular creative force that Steve was, but it seems pretty clear that he understands how to manage a very large company in a way that allows that creativity to grow. And at Apple's size, that's what you need. I wouldn't want a single "wannabe-Steve" trying to personally invent everything.
 
People don't give Tim Cook enough credit. He's regularly accused of being too numbers-focused around here. He may not be the singular creative force that Steve was, but it seems pretty clear that he understands how to manage a very large company in a way that allows that creativity to grow. And at Apple's size, that's what you need. I wouldn't want a single "wannabe-Steve" trying to personally invent everything.
I certainly don't hate him or think he'll be fired or anything. But I hardly think Apples been "creative." They've updated stuff sure...but nothing magical.
 
You would think that having to put out statements like this pretty often now, for what seems several years, should be a big red flag that you are NOT taking the "commitment" seriously enough. IF Apple were properly committed to the Mac, in all its forms, these statements would be completely unnecessary because it would be obvious to just about everyone that apple was still committed to the Mac. Because the products would be updated very regularly, as the iPhone and iPad are, and because there would be much less complaining from Mac users that the products that finally do get released are not focused on the things (like performance or "pro" features) that Mac users want most. Apple is so damn big now that if they can't put out regular Mac updates along with their other products it can only mean that Mac is a low priority product line. And the repeated line about being committed to it just sounds completely patronizing.
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I was just going to post the same thoughts.
What is positive that they (whoever that is) have finally gotten the message that their current line up of desktops is not up to snuff and even diehard devoted Apple users are rebelling.
Once negativity creeps in people will look for alternatives.

I personally don't do desktops any more, but unfortunately we just got hammered expecting a great MBP. NOT!

So, I will do with a 2014 and a 2015 MBP, until they hopefully come to their senses.

Annoying as it is , I have no issues with the port removals, as one can get past that. What we cannot get past is anemic non upgradable memory and SSDs.

And to those who say all we do now is complain:
It is more than justified. I am an Apple user since 1984 and there is currently NOTHING I want to buy.

Give us a chance Tim. We honestly want to buy Apple products and stay in the eco system. Even at your prices!

You know you are doing damage control now with these announcements, trying to stretch us into 2017. Your credit rating and believability is near zero.

We will MAYBE believe there is a pipeline when the first acceptable thing comes out of it!
 
People don't give Tim Cook enough credit. He's regularly accused of being too numbers-focused around here. He may not be the singular creative force that Steve was, but it seems pretty clear that he understands how to manage a very large company in a way that allows that creativity to grow. And at Apple's size, that's what you need. I wouldn't want a single "wannabe-Steve" trying to personally invent everything.
Hi Tim :)
 
You'll never get what you want if you don't let it be know what you want.
This is one of the few outlets frustrated Mac users have to express their unhappiness with the company they so love.
Tim never says stuff like this but the out cry has been long and continuous.
Why do you thing they cut prices on some of the extras people had to buy.
They wanted to be nice or to quell the criticism?
Maybe you want to roll over, most of us don't.

It's not rolling over.

It's assessing the situation, making changes if a company's direction is not aligned with your requirements, and moving forward.

Whining on a forum thinking that Apple will go back to laptops and desktops from 10 years ago with USB A ports and card slots is insane. And embarrassing. If you can't handle the transition, move on with a company that makes what you need - Apple is not going back.
 
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